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Re: Mjolnir Sequence
Posted By: SubduedRadicalDate: 1/1/08 2:37 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Mjolnir Sequence (Bob-B-Q)

: That's all very well, except that the origin of the Marathon Mjolnirs is
: fundamentally unlike that of the Halo Spartans.

The Marathon Mjolnirs came out of a war between the two independent asteroid states, right (used as semi-covert soldiers, made from the bodies/parts of the dead, who infiltrated into the other state's capital and decapitated the respective leaderships?) The method with which they were made was similar in nature; cybernetic (and possibly genetic enhancements.) And if you consider that the Marathon Mjolnirs were made with salvaged Jjaro[?Forerunner] tech, than it's possible they could have been more advanced than the Halo Spartans/Mjolnirs, even though the latter were made centuries later.

Perhaps Dr. Halsey ("mother" of the Spartan-IIs and "grandmother" of the Spartan-IIIs) had, in actuality, discovered records of the Marathon Mjolnirs centuries later (perhaps through Cortana) which spurred her research into that direction.

The only real difference that I think we can be sure of is that the Marathon Mjolnirs have a high probability of being made with Jjaro technology, whereas the Halo Spartain-II/IIIs were made with Human technology, albeit about three to four centuries more advanced (and the later wear armor from the more advanced Human tech, and integrated shields which they got from the Covenant, who in turn had first gotten them from the Forerunners[?Jjaro]) The cybernetic and genetic alterations, we have no reason to believe, were otherwise any different. As I said (though it takes a little "leaping" in logic), its possible that the Marathon Mjolnir Mark IVs[?Spartan-Is] could have been the inspiration for the Spartan-IIs centuries later. It wouldn't be the first time such a schtick has been used in sci-fi.

(Of course, I should note that there are other problems more likely to cause errors with integrating the two universes; namely, how come neither the UNSC nor the Covenant seem to have any interaction with the Pfhor, even though the latter supposedly should have "risen to prominence" by the time of Halo? Is Tau Ceti really THAT far away?

(...although, the description of the Compilers is vaguely similar to the Halo Engineers. The Engineers(called Huragok by the Covenant and, presumably the Forerunner) are little floating dudes with tenticles that are biological-mechanical repair critters that don't talk much. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_%28Halo%29#Engineers) They were created by the Forerunner. Note that they are different than the Compilers...but seem to serve a similar purpose (and the latter were created by the Jjaro.) If nothing else, this is an interesting similarity in the Bungie mythi. (But I've now tracked SOOOO far off topic, I'll stop now. ^_^))

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Mjolnir ArmorDeram Scholzara 12/3/07 12:39 p.m.
     Re: Mjolnir ArmorForrest of B.org 12/3/07 2:57 p.m.
           Re: Mjolnir Armorkyjel 12/3/07 3:47 p.m.
                 Re: Mjolnir Armorscreamingfool 12/3/07 5:08 p.m.
           Re: Mjolnir TechnologyDeram Scholzara 12/4/07 4:14 a.m.
     Re: Mjolnir Armortreellama 12/3/07 2:57 p.m.
     OT: nice to see you drop by Deram. :) *NM*Johannes Gunnar 12/4/07 9:31 a.m.
           Yup! I've been reading a lot but not posting any. *NM*Deram Scholzara 12/5/07 2:00 p.m.
     Re: Mjolnir ArmorMarathoner325 12/4/07 1:57 p.m.
           Re: Mjolnir ArmorBob-B-Q 12/5/07 3:52 a.m.
                 Re: Mjolnir ArmorMarathoner325 12/5/07 5:59 a.m.
                       Re: Mjolnir ArmorQuantum 12/5/07 7:56 a.m.
     Based on...grasshopper 12/5/07 8:16 a.m.
           Re: Based on...screamingfool 12/5/07 8:50 a.m.
                 Re: Based on...treellama 12/5/07 9:34 a.m.
                       Re: Based on...Forrest of B.org 12/5/07 3:31 p.m.
                             :D *NM*thermoplyae 12/5/07 4:03 p.m.
                                   Re: Mjolnir SequenceSubduedRadical 1/1/08 12:48 a.m.
                                         Re: Mjolnir SequenceBob-B-Q 1/1/08 7:01 a.m.
                                               Re: Mjolnir SequenceSubduedRadical 1/1/08 2:37 p.m.

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