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Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL

Posted By: thermoplyae Date: 4/17/07 9:09 a.m.
In Response To: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL (Alexander Smith)

: Guys, I need some help. As everyone here knows, the Marathon Universe is
: generally rife with color, and brings joy to the heart just to play it,
: and watch vibrant enemy and ally sprites kill each other.
: Marathon's weapons are fairly colorful, and often are a tad plain in the
: textures, but nevertheless look excellent.
: Here's the problem, should Marathon Infested, which has a very gritty and
: violent story, have the same kind of colorful look as M2, or M3? I'm
: having a hard time deciding between and obviously "Marathon"
: looking game because it's got the colors and environments M2/M3 had, or an
: obviously Marathon game because of the same kind of gameplay, with the
: Cyborg, BoBs, VacBobs, Pfhor fighters and all that, plus a direct
: continuation of M3 storyline. But instead of a lot of color, have a more
: desaturated look, with deep color being used in specific places to offer
: hard contrast.
: Now, this may seem simple, but for me it isn't, because my choice will
: influence the whole game, from start to finish, and every single bit of
: content will have to reflect this look. Models, textures, everything.
: So, without further ado, I would like to ask all members of this board to
: please help me come up with some ideas, or choose between the two here,
: (though your own ideas not present here will be just as good).
: Please reply, this is very important to me.
: Alexander-
I am a huge fan of M2 in every way, art and palette included, and so that's my knee-jerk reaction.
But.
M2's story supported its choice of art. The only time the game actually felt dark was on KYT, and even then only sort of. If you have a dark scenario (or you want your scenario to be dark, more accurately), then not choosing M2 is the right choice. The color palette reflects on every part of the game, as you noticed. If you want the scenario to feel rife with life, use an M2-esque palette. If you want to be darkly atmospheric, gritty, and at times outright scary, then don't, because you'll have an incredibly hard time achieving it.
Actually, Marathon Infinity itself had a balance between the two styles. It was certainly much more colorful than M1, and it was certainly much more muted than M2, so there's another point on the spectrum to use as reference.
My opinions on what other people have done with the texture sets when they've tried to break the mold (notably Rubicon and Eternal) is as narrow-minded as you'd expected: "This isn't M2 :( :( :(" In reality, Rubicon's textures are drab but overall alright (it's more the sprawling architecture and the inability to know where you are or where you're going). Eternal's high saturation and low value is a terrible (again, imo) combination. If I'm going to be playing Marathon in pink (e.g. the Pfhor texture set in M2, which is close to frustratingly ugly), it had better not be in [pastel].
And /that/ said, Eternal has a very distinctive style, and people will recognize it when they see it. It's not all bad.
So... there's a handful of opinions for you. Hopefully there's something usable buried in there. :)

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Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL Alexander Smith 4/17/07 5:04 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL ukimalefu 4/17/07 5:54 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL Johannes Gunnar 4/17/07 6:21 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL treellama 4/17/07 8:41 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL Alexander Smith 4/17/07 8:56 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL screamingfool 4/17/07 9:00 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL thermoplyae 4/17/07 9:09 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL Forrest of B.org 4/17/07 6:45 p.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL thermoplyae 4/17/07 10:35 p.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL madcowjim 4/17/07 11:02 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL Alexander Smith 4/17/07 12:41 p.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL blake37 4/17/07 4:02 p.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL RyokoTK 4/17/07 5:52 p.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL AHuxley 4/18/07 1:32 a.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL Erlin Tanner 4/20/07 10:08 p.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL Aaron Sikes 4/21/07 1:21 p.m.

Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL D-M.A. 4/22/07 5:59 a.m.

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: I am a huge fan of M2 in every way, art and palette included, and so that's : my knee-jerk reaction. : But. : M2's story supported its choice of art. The only time the game actually felt : dark was on KYT, and even then only sort of. If you have a dark scenario : (or you want your scenario to be dark, more accurately), then not choosing : M2 is the right choice. The color palette reflects on every part of the : game, as you noticed. If you want the scenario to feel rife with life, use : an M2-esque palette. If you want to be darkly atmospheric, gritty, and at : times outright scary, then don't, because you'll have an incredibly hard : time achieving it. : Actually, Marathon Infinity itself had a balance between the two styles. It : was certainly much more colorful than M1, and it was certainly much more : muted than M2, so there's another point on the spectrum to use as : reference. : My opinions on what other people have done with the texture sets when they've : tried to break the mold (notably Rubicon and Eternal) is as narrow-minded : as you'd expected: "This isn't M2 :( :( :(" In reality, : Rubicon's textures are drab but overall alright (it's more the sprawling : architecture and the inability to know where you are or where you're : going). Eternal's high saturation and low value is a terrible (again, imo) : combination. If I'm going to be playing Marathon in pink (e.g. the Pfhor : texture set in M2, which is close to frustratingly ugly), it had better : not be in [pastel] . : And /that/ said, Eternal has a very distinctive style, and people will : recognize it when they see it. It's not all bad. : So... there's a handful of opinions for you. Hopefully there's something : usable buried in there. :)

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Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	Alexander Smith	4/17/07 5:04 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	ukimalefu	4/17/07 5:54 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	Johannes Gunnar	4/17/07 6:21 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	treellama	4/17/07 8:41 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	Alexander Smith	4/17/07 8:56 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	screamingfool	4/17/07 9:00 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	thermoplyae	4/17/07 9:09 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	Forrest of B.org	4/17/07 6:45 p.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	thermoplyae	4/17/07 10:35 p.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	madcowjim	4/17/07 11:02 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	Alexander Smith	4/17/07 12:41 p.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	blake37	4/17/07 4:02 p.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	RyokoTK	4/17/07 5:52 p.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	AHuxley	4/18/07 1:32 a.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	Erlin Tanner	4/20/07 10:08 p.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	Aaron Sikes	4/21/07 1:21 p.m.
Re: Marathon Infested LOOK/FEEL	D-M.A.	4/22/07 5:59 a.m.



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	Message: : I am a huge fan of M2 in every way, art and palette included, and so that's : my knee-jerk reaction. : But. : M2's story supported its choice of art. The only time the game actually felt : dark was on KYT, and even then only sort of. If you have a dark scenario : (or you want your scenario to be dark, more accurately), then not choosing : M2 is the right choice. The color palette reflects on every part of the : game, as you noticed. If you want the scenario to feel rife with life, use : an M2-esque palette. If you want to be darkly atmospheric, gritty, and at : times outright scary, then don't, because you'll have an incredibly hard : time achieving it. : Actually, Marathon Infinity itself had a balance between the two styles. It : was certainly much more colorful than M1, and it was certainly much more : muted than M2, so there's another point on the spectrum to use as : reference. : My opinions on what other people have done with the texture sets when they've : tried to break the mold (notably Rubicon and Eternal) is as narrow-minded : as you'd expected: "This isn't M2 :( :( :(" In reality, : Rubicon's textures are drab but overall alright (it's more the sprawling : architecture and the inability to know where you are or where you're : going). Eternal's high saturation and low value is a terrible (again, imo) : combination. If I'm going to be playing Marathon in pink (e.g. the Pfhor : texture set in M2, which is close to frustratingly ugly), it had better : not be in [pastel] . : And /that/ said, Eternal has a very distinctive style, and people will : recognize it when they see it. It's not all bad. : So... there's a handful of opinions for you. Hopefully there's something : usable buried in there. :)
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