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Posted By: MrHen | Date: 11/22/06 4:53 a.m. | |
In Response To: Hypothetical question (Frungi) : I am able to time-travel. I decide that I'm going to go back in time two
Okay, to make the example a little clearer, this is what happens: You #1 sits down next to his time-travel devise and declares that in ten minutes time he will travel backwards five minutes in time. You #1 also declares that he will cancel his five minute trip if he sees himself before he leaves. In ten minutes, You #1 will have not seen himself, so he travels back in time and walks in on You #2 five minutes ago. You #2 looks at You #1 and cancels his trip. Both You #1 and You #2 celebrate their victory over time and play Marathon for hours on end. How is this possible? If you follow the cause/effect chain it makes sense:
These are not two timelines, these are not different universes, they are the exact same timeline. The events on this timeline will change and it will look like a different timeline, but it is not. It has changed, but it is the same timeline. You #1 walks in on You #2 before You #2 travels. You #2 never travels. You #1 could travel back to the future and find that he never took the trip. So to answer the question, "will I travel back in time?", yes and no. You will do both, just at different, uh, times. Another example from this setup is this:
In this case, I will never travel through time. Here is why:
Another point I will make here is, using the first example, you have no idea which you you are. You could be You #1 and you will make the trip, or you could be You #2 and not make the trip. You have no idea which you are until the ten minutes are up. In other words, this all basically works like the multiple universe thing except I put them all in the same timeline. If I could draw you a diagram this may be easier... That blog post I linked does talk about this and I have some diagrams there.
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Plotline question concerning Infinity | Icarus | 11/15/06 12:18 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | Forrest of B.org | 11/15/06 1:10 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | RyokoTK | 11/15/06 1:43 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | Forrest of B.org | 11/15/06 3:51 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | Forrest of B.org | 11/15/06 3:59 p.m. | |
time travel and plots in general | MrHen | 11/15/06 6:08 p.m. | |
Re: time travel and plots in general | patrick | 11/15/06 6:48 p.m. | |
Re: time travel and plots in general | Forrest of B.org | 11/15/06 7:57 p.m. | |
more on plot | MrHen | 11/16/06 5:07 a.m. | |
Re: more on plot | Document | 11/18/06 11:39 a.m. | |
I would not know. | MrHen | 11/18/06 12:33 p.m. | |
Re: I would not know. | Document | 11/18/06 12:44 p.m. | |
oh, okay. :) | MrHen | 11/18/06 3:37 p.m. | |
Re: oh, okay. :) | thermoplyae | 11/18/06 7:18 p.m. | |
Re: time travel and plots in general | LegacyTyphoon | 11/17/06 12:39 a.m. | |
Re: time travel | Frungi | 11/17/06 1:04 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | Document | 11/17/06 1:09 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | MrHen | 11/17/06 2:51 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | Frungi | 11/18/06 1:09 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | Document | 11/20/06 11:01 a.m. | |
well, obviously | MrHen | 11/20/06 12:17 p.m. | |
Re: well, obviously | Frungi | 11/20/06 5:01 p.m. | |
Re: well, obviously | Forrest of B.org | 11/20/06 6:52 p.m. | |
unilinear? | MrHen | 11/21/06 4:49 a.m. | |
Re: unilinear? | Frungi | 11/21/06 5:49 a.m. | |
gah, no... | MrHen | 11/21/06 6:21 a.m. | |
Re: gah, no... | Frungi | 11/21/06 7:41 a.m. | |
Re: gah, no... | MrHen | 11/21/06 8:25 a.m. | |
Hypothetical question | Frungi | 11/21/06 1:45 p.m. | |
Hypothetical answers | MrHen | 11/22/06 4:53 a.m. | |
Re: Hypothetical answers | Frungi | 11/22/06 4:24 p.m. | |
Re: Hypothetical answers | MrHen | 11/23/06 7:52 a.m. | |
Re: Hypothetical answers | Frungi | 11/23/06 9:11 a.m. | |
Re: Hypothetical answers | MrHen | 11/23/06 4:04 p.m. | |
Re: gah, no... | Forrest of B.org | 11/21/06 8:19 p.m. | |
there are no time-loops | MrHen | 11/22/06 4:21 a.m. | |
Re: unilinear? | Forrest of B.org | 11/21/06 8:07 p.m. | |
Something is wrong... | MrHen | 11/22/06 4:35 a.m. | |
Re: Something is wrong... | Forrest of B.org | 11/22/06 9:09 a.m. | |
this is awesome, I love this stuff | MrHen | 11/22/06 9:33 a.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | treellama | 11/22/06 11:25 a.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Forrest of B.org | 11/22/06 12:00 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | treellama | 11/22/06 2:41 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Forrest of B.org | 11/22/06 5:48 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | treellama | 11/23/06 4:58 a.m. | |
ha, nice | MrHen | 11/23/06 8:05 a.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Document | 9/18/07 11:06 a.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Forrest of B.org | 11/22/06 12:28 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Frungi | 11/22/06 4:07 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Forrest of B.org | 11/22/06 6:05 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Document | 11/22/06 7:14 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Frungi | 11/22/06 7:31 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Forrest of B.org | 11/23/06 12:37 a.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff *LINK* | Frungi | 11/25/06 1:15 p.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Forrest of B.org | 11/26/06 10:04 a.m. | |
Re: this is awesome, I love this stuff | Frungi | 11/26/06 6:30 p.m. | |
timeline == ? | MrHen | 11/23/06 8:09 a.m. | |
agreement :) | MrHen | 11/23/06 8:00 a.m. | |
Re: Something is wrong... | Aachim | 11/22/06 1:24 p.m. | |
returning to time travel | Pfhorever | 11/23/06 10:13 a.m. | |
Re: returning to time travel | Frungi | 11/23/06 10:43 a.m. | |
Re: well, obviously | Document | 11/21/06 10:30 a.m. | |
Re: time travel | Forrest of B.org | 11/17/06 3:47 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | legacytyphoon | 11/17/06 8:29 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | Document | 11/17/06 9:17 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | Frungi | 11/18/06 1:07 p.m. | |
Re: time travel | Document | 11/19/06 5:59 a.m. | |
I disagree *LINK* | MrHen | 11/18/06 6:55 a.m. | |
Re: time travel and plots in general | Frungi | 11/21/06 7:48 a.m. | |
Re: time travel and plots in general | Forrest of B.org | 11/21/06 8:26 p.m. | |
Re: time travel and plots in general | Vid Boi | 11/16/06 6:18 a.m. | |
Re: time travel and plots in general | D-M.A. | 11/16/06 8:38 a.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | thermoplyae | 11/15/06 2:05 p.m. | |
*cough* spam *cough* | MrHen | 11/15/06 3:35 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | SnowCrash | 11/15/06 4:12 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | thermoplyae | 11/15/06 5:03 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | kyjel | 11/15/06 5:06 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | thermoplyae | 11/15/06 6:14 p.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | Document | 11/16/06 10:10 a.m. | |
Re: Plotline question concerning Infinity | REB | 11/16/06 7:31 p.m. | |
REB!!! *NM* | ukimalefu | 11/16/06 8:24 p.m. | |
Re: Hey, ukimalefu! *NM* | REB | 11/17/06 9:41 a.m. | |
MrHen apologized it for in his post, but thanks :) *NM* | thermoplyae | 11/16/06 11:27 p.m. | |
WMaiD | Aaron Sikes | 11/17/06 9:33 a.m. | |
Re: WMaiD | kyjel | 11/17/06 10:28 a.m. | |
It was a joke. >. *NM* | MrHen | 11/17/06 2:49 p.m. | |
Re: Got It ;-) *NM* | REB | 11/17/06 3:07 p.m. | |
WMaiD *LINK* | Blayne | 11/17/06 11:24 a.m. | |
Re: WMaiD | SnowCrash | 11/18/06 10:31 a.m. | |
Re: WMaiD | Blayne | 11/21/06 10:18 a.m. | |
Re: WMaiD | Aaron Sikes | 11/21/06 10:50 a.m. | |
Re: WMaiD | Frungi | 11/21/06 7:09 p.m. |
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