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Posted By: MrHen | Date: 8/23/05 6:23 a.m. | |
In Response To: Re: OMG (goran) : * (off topic) what is the devil anyway? Would God who gave us freedom and set
: If you really love someone, you set them free. You don't judge their
: -goran Fine, since no one seems to have a problem diving in... First: Just because you have a moral problem with what you think "God" or "Satan" is or cannot figure out a certain logical dealio in your view on the whole religiousness thing doesn't mean that God cannot exist. For all we know God is some sadistic schmuck. Second: Just because some form of Christianity has defined "God" to be omnipotent or omni-benevolent or that "God" created Satan to tempt us or everything is a perfect plan and God has control over the smallest detail of every molecule doesn't mean that the rest of Christianity has. Christianity is like Buddhism in the sense that trying to explain the general idea behind the whole religion is fairly pointless because of how much the different sects and denominations differ. Third: Believe it or not there are many, many Christian materials written about the Problem of Evil, love, and the whole free will thing. Believe it or not, not every Christian is brain-dead. You may think they have a fundamental flaw in their thinking but they get pretty smart about it. There are a large amount of fools who are Christians, so go ahead and ignore them. If you're actually curious for the answer to the questions you have there are quite a few answers. Not all of them are perfect, and many bring in more questions, and after a while it feels like any other investigation. Fourth: To the specific questions you raised about the devil and God's supposed love there are a great many opinions on the matter. 1) God or gods (including the devil) don't exist.
2) God uses the devil to get his ultimate, supreme purpose done.
3) God gave the devil the same free-will he gave us but he gave the devil more power.
3a) God can see the future, but decided to go ahead and create the devil anyway.
3b) God cannot see the future and is a little miffed at the devil.
4) God didn't create the devil.
5) God created the devil as a tempter to strengthen us.
6) The devil was created for God's glory.
The whole point to this was to attempt to show people that you cannot end all of Christianity with a problem that can be stated in one paragraph. That being said, there is a lot of crap that common Christians believe and so I can understand being skeptical of them. Don't take it out on the "religion" they associate themselves to. Other religions are often a victim of this as well. Islam is an easy example, but I don't know anything about it. So instead I'll use Buddhism. There are tons of sects to Buddhism (including some awful Christianity/Buddhism hybrids... *shudder*). Some of these sects are worth noting, others are a waste of time. I can't remember the names of all of them (I'm terrible with names) but I do remember Pure Land Buddhism being one of the more pointless religions. Blah. So there is a ramble for you and this is what happens when I get involved in these things. I don't have time to proof so I apologize for any typos and I hope it made sense. :P |
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