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	Re: Redemption Returns
	Posted By: Bob-B-Q	Date: 5/14/05 3:48 a.m.
	In Response To: Re: Redemption Returns (Yossarian) : Cool. I wonder, is there any way to make one fist faster but less damaging : while making the other slower but more powerful? Sorta like a left jab-jab : and then right hook... Interesting idea. Another concept I was toying with was to have the player use one fist, a la M1, and have the alternate fire be a flying kick. It would solve the "only one firing animation per weapon" issue. : I've never understood the insistence on using big magnum rounds for standard : sidearms in the Marathon scenarios, starting with ".45 magnum" : in M1. If I were to need that much firepower I'd just use a shotgun, but : hey. In truth, a single .44 mag or .45 mag or larger shot would blast a : regular pfhor fighter in half, but sometimes it takes three or more shots : to bring one down. They would be admittedly more effective against larger : targets, but so would a rifle or shotgun round. Magnums have their place, : but the idea of an "offensive/assault handgun" in this calibre : is a bit silly to me, but as long as it's the starting sidearm I think it : will work fine. The idea is that this gun was originally designed to fill a role similar to that of modern carbines and PDWs; something that would be given to non-frontline people who just needed something for defense. It is also supposed to be useful for picking off Pfhor at ranges greater than those possible with real-world sidearms, much as the Desert Eagle is used for big-game hunting. As you observed, a shotgun would do the job, but a magnum is smaller than a shotgun. Size matters for people who spend most of their time filling out papers. The magnum's rate of fire / recoil change is intended to balance the fact that the new gun fires something akin to a scaled-down anti-tank round and can indeed blow a Fighter in half. It's meant to be powerful, but not all-powerful. : That's a pretty cool concept, being able to set and lock the load settings : within the shell before shooting. By full size, does this mean it has a : standard rifle stock or just a pistol grip, or both? About how long is the : barrel? What is the action? What is the capacity and what form does the : magazine take? What gauge shotgun is this? Will the rounds have smiling : hippos on them? "Full-size" might have been the wrong way to put it. "Not sawed-off" might have been better, since the design in my head looks a lot like a Pancor Jackhammer with an extended barrel. The mechanism will probably have a Jackhammer-style cylindrical magazine for fast reloading. The weapon is gas-operated, so the gauge won't be larger than 12 and probably a little smaller, maybe .410. It makes up for that with an insane rate of fire. I've heard that the internal pressure generated by a .410 shotshell is much higher than that of a 12-gauge. Is this true? There will be smiling hippos, but you'd only be able to see them in terminal pictures. : Cool. What calibre/round capacity? I'm thinking something around 5.56mm, with a forty-round clip. Imagine a FAMAS fitted with the Aliens M-41A's grenade launcher. : Cool, same as above in terms of calibre and capacity? Visually, the Zip is best described as a cross between a MAC-10 and a Steyr TMP. The caliber would be very small, as this gun is supposed to be the 29th century equivalent of the FN P90 and H&K MP7. : Not trying to be picky or anything, just some technical questions... Not at all; it's good that someone knows this stuff. I agree that the magnum is on the ridiculous side of the fence but hey, it's the Marathon tradition. And we all know that audiences just love a hand cannon...

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	Redemption Returns	Bob-B-Q	5/13/05 8:43 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Steve Levinson	5/13/05 10:01 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Bob-B-Q	5/13/05 10:32 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Andromeda_5[Kilo]	5/13/05 4:02 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Nick Hoad	5/13/05 6:12 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Yossarian	5/13/05 6:32 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Bob-B-Q	5/14/05 3:48 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Yossarian	5/14/05 6:12 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Andromeda_5[Kilo]	5/14/05 7:16 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	D-M.A.	5/14/05 11:57 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	D-M.A.	5/15/05 5:19 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Yossarian	5/15/05 5:51 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Bob-B-Q	5/15/05 4:20 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Yossarian	5/15/05 5:49 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Bob-B-Q	5/15/05 8:52 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Andromeda_5[Kilo]	5/15/05 2:26 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Yossarian	5/15/05 7:16 p.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Bob-B-Q	5/16/05 4:45 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Yossarian	5/16/05 8:06 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Sir Blastalot	7/9/05 6:19 a.m.
	Re: Redemption Returns	Redmage13	7/12/05 7:08 p.m.

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