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Re: Eh?

Posted By: Forrest of B.org Date: 1/11/05 12:40 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Eh? (blake37)

: You beat us, we lost to your crazy logic, unless logic doesn't exist either.
That's my point. Logic can't prove that itself works, because that assumes it's own conclusion and is thus invalid. But validity is itself a logical concept, so if logic doesn't work, then it doesn't matter if logic can or cannot prove itself, because you could just claim it to be so and, since logic doesn't work, you can't prove otherwise. Therefore, logic works, because I say so and you can't prove me wrong. And now that I know logic works, I know that that proof that logic works doesn't work because it assumes it's own conclusion...
Confused yet?

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Confusion about the storyline bad brains 1/9/05 9:29 p.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline Forrest of B.org 1/9/05 10:10 p.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline K-chi 1/10/05 4:22 a.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline Steve Levinson 1/10/05 3:09 p.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline Forrest of B.org 1/10/05 4:04 p.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline Steve Levinson 1/10/05 6:23 p.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline Forrest of B.org 1/10/05 7:33 p.m.

Long time travel philosophy post! Head hurts! *NM* ukimalefu 1/10/05 8:19 p.m.

The Philosophy of Time Travel Forrest of B.org 1/10/05 9:28 p.m.

What does time travel have to do with philosophy? *NM* Purple Penguin 1/11/05 6:12 a.m.

You can philosophy about time travel. *NM* ukimalefu 1/11/05 7:16 a.m.

What does epistemology have to do with philosophy? *NM* Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 7:17 a.m.

Philosophy is the search for truth. *NM* K-chi 1/11/05 9:18 a.m.

When you can't prove it and it's speculation. *NM* Adam Ashwell 1/11/05 10:22 a.m.

You can't prove that proof is ever possible. Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 11:23 a.m.

Re: You can't prove that proof is ever possible. blake37 1/11/05 11:51 a.m.

Eh? *NM* Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 11:57 a.m.

Re: Eh? blake37 1/11/05 11:59 a.m.

Re: Eh? Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 12:40 p.m.

Re: Eh? blake37 1/11/05 12:56 p.m.

Re: Eh? Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 1:16 p.m.

Re: Eh? blake37 1/11/05 2:23 p.m.

Re: Eh? Deathmonger 1/11/05 1:46 p.m.

Re: Eh? Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 2:20 p.m.

Re: Eh? Yossarian 1/11/05 2:38 p.m.

Re: Eh? Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 3:14 p.m.

Dayyymn. Fobo has mad logic skilz, yo. [/wigger] *NM* Deathmonger 1/11/05 3:43 p.m.

I'm writing a paper on epistemology & ethics *NM* Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 4:00 p.m.

Re: that explains alot *NM* blake37 1/11/05 4:22 p.m.

Re: Eh? Yossarian 1/11/05 4:57 p.m.

Re: Eh? Forrest of B.org 1/11/05 6:46 p.m.

Welp, I'm satisfied. *NM* Yossarian 1/12/05 3:36 p.m.

I get it! I get it! K-chi 1/11/05 5:42 p.m.

And we're very proud of you too ^_^. *NM* Adam Ashwell 1/11/05 5:43 p.m.

Now, what was the thread originally about again? *NM* Reiginko 1/12/05 3:43 a.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline Andromeda_5[Kilo] 1/11/05 10:59 a.m.

Re: Confusion about the storyline ukimalefu 1/11/05 4:55 p.m.

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: That's my point. Logic can't prove that itself works, because that assumes : it's own conclusion and is thus invalid. But validity is itself a logical : concept, so if logic doesn't work, then it doesn't matter if logic can or : cannot prove itself, because you could just claim it to be so and, since : logic doesn't work, you can't prove otherwise. Therefore, logic works, : because I say so and you can't prove me wrong. And now that I know logic : works, I know that that proof that logic works doesn't work because it : assumes it's own conclusion... : Confused yet?

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Confusion about the storyline	bad brains	1/9/05 9:29 p.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	Forrest of B.org	1/9/05 10:10 p.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	K-chi	1/10/05 4:22 a.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	Steve Levinson	1/10/05 3:09 p.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	Forrest of B.org	1/10/05 4:04 p.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	Steve Levinson	1/10/05 6:23 p.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	Forrest of B.org	1/10/05 7:33 p.m.
Long time travel philosophy post! Head hurts! NM	ukimalefu	1/10/05 8:19 p.m.
The Philosophy of Time Travel	Forrest of B.org	1/10/05 9:28 p.m.
What does time travel have to do with philosophy? NM	Purple Penguin	1/11/05 6:12 a.m.
You can philosophy about time travel. NM	ukimalefu	1/11/05 7:16 a.m.
What does epistemology have to do with philosophy? NM	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 7:17 a.m.
Philosophy is the search for truth. NM	K-chi	1/11/05 9:18 a.m.
When you can't prove it and it's speculation. NM	Adam Ashwell	1/11/05 10:22 a.m.
You can't prove that proof is ever possible.	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 11:23 a.m.
Re: You can't prove that proof is ever possible.	blake37	1/11/05 11:51 a.m.
Eh? NM	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 11:57 a.m.
Re: Eh?	blake37	1/11/05 11:59 a.m.
Re: Eh?	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 12:40 p.m.
Re: Eh?	blake37	1/11/05 12:56 p.m.
Re: Eh?	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 1:16 p.m.
Re: Eh?	blake37	1/11/05 2:23 p.m.
Re: Eh?	Deathmonger	1/11/05 1:46 p.m.
Re: Eh?	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 2:20 p.m.
Re: Eh?	Yossarian	1/11/05 2:38 p.m.
Re: Eh?	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 3:14 p.m.
Dayyymn. Fobo has mad logic skilz, yo. [/wigger] NM	Deathmonger	1/11/05 3:43 p.m.
I'm writing a paper on epistemology & ethics NM	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 4:00 p.m.
Re: that explains alot NM	blake37	1/11/05 4:22 p.m.
Re: Eh?	Yossarian	1/11/05 4:57 p.m.
Re: Eh?	Forrest of B.org	1/11/05 6:46 p.m.
Welp, I'm satisfied. NM	Yossarian	1/12/05 3:36 p.m.
I get it! I get it!	K-chi	1/11/05 5:42 p.m.
And we're very proud of you too ^_^. NM	Adam Ashwell	1/11/05 5:43 p.m.
Now, what was the thread originally about again? NM	Reiginko	1/12/05 3:43 a.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	Andromeda_5[Kilo]	1/11/05 10:59 a.m.
Re: Confusion about the storyline	ukimalefu	1/11/05 4:55 p.m.



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