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	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood
	Posted By: Starship Security Officer	Date: 5/12/04 5:58 p.m.
	In Response To: Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood (Malakite) Okay, first off, I want people to know that I never had anything against UT, Halo or Deus Ex. I'm sorry if I got you all confused. I do not really like UT, but I didn't mean to put it the way you guys thought. Okay, here goes. : Personally, i am not a big UT fan. i loved the original unreal though. it : seemed to be very clearly from marathon fans, since, though the story : wasn't really deep, the storytelling was similar in style to marathon( : carry around a text translator, and when you find a book or sign, it : displays the english text. almost the same, really) not to mention that : unreal had the best gameplay feel of an FPS since marathon. Yeah, in fact, I loved Unreal. It was a cool game. I just thought it would've been great if Epic software hadn't screwed it all up. There are still a bunch of answers and mysteries and strengths to add that Epic software seems to have forgotten: Now they're just with UT. : as for halo, it seems like that is the logical successor to the marathon : legacy. made by the same people, gorgeous, like marathon was in its day, : fantastic story, and, if nothing else, is at least set in the same : universe as marathon even if the stories never cross(which, for the : record, i believe they will eventually). some would argue that halo : doesn't have the same story depth as marathon does, but remember: the : first marathon story was about a supersoldier defending humans against : alien invaders while being jerked about by a good AI and a bad one. it : took two more games and countless third party scenarios to bring marathon : to the point it is at now. halo is new. give it time. I don't exactly consider Halo to surpass marathon. I do think that Halo had a better engine and graphics, but in the end, no game, not even other games by bungie in my opinion have added up to the power of Marathon. : and quake, well.... yeah, quake is kinda crappy. I disagree. I don't exactly know why people hated Quake so much. Sure, Quake isn't the best game in the world, I pretty much just sometime like simple shoot-them-and-find-your-way-out games, and Quake is one of them, which it does a good job of doing. The lightning gun sort of screwed all the other weapons, but other than that I found it was fun. You'd have to admit, it still has some pretty good graphics today. Correct me if I'm wrong, was Quake the first game to put in polygon graphics? I don't know. Then there's the simple, yet for me, addictive, gameplay. It sure as hell doesn't add up to Marathon, though. : don't get me wrong: marathon is and always will be my favorite game of all : time, in part because it is pretty much the first game i ever played and : have been playing it consistently ever since then. but we can't say that : it is the only good game, or that other games don't deserve a similar : following. True. I love many other games. Basically I love all my games equally, except for Marathon, of course, which rises up above all other games. : as for the reasons that the marathon community is small, i offer this: it was : (mostly) only released on one of two systems that were popular at the : time, and it was on the one that would ultimately lose the popularity : war(because pc companies fight dirty). it was made by a small(then) indy : game company, and for mindlessly violent action, it couldn't really : compete with doom. and if the movie and game industries have taught us : anything, its that mindless hyper-violence will always outsell a good : story. Actually, I find the AI slightly better and the creatures more dangerous than the ones from DOOM. Still you are right, Doom beats marathon's ass in simple action and finding your way out of the levels. : which is ok. mindless hyperviolence has its uses. but there will always be : those of us who, most of the time(yeah, i play doom every once in a while) : prefer a good story. Yep. ;)

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	Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Starship Security Officer	5/10/04 4:56 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Yossarian	5/10/04 5:19 p.m.
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	Said "fuck kindness, someone hand me a spanker"guy *NM*	Starship Security Officer	5/12/04 6:05 p.m.
	What? What did I do now?	Starship Security Officer	5/12/04 6:03 p.m.
	DID YOU HEAR ME, YOSS? *NM*	Starship Security Officer	5/13/04 6:38 p.m.
	Re: Starship Security Officer is so misunderstood	Evil Otto	5/17/04 9:28 a.m.
	Petrich: Got bored, moved on. Sad, but happens. *NM*	Mista_B	5/17/04 10:07 a.m.
	Re: Starship Security Officer is so misunderstood	Speaker-To-Animals	5/17/04 1:00 p.m.
	Re: Starship Security Officer is so misunderstood	Bob-B-Q	5/17/04 2:06 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Johannes Gunnar	5/11/04 7:21 a.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Cheerful	5/11/04 10:34 a.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Malakite	5/11/04 12:58 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Cheerful	5/11/04 1:41 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Bob-B-Q	5/11/04 2:25 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Forrest of B.org	5/11/04 3:51 p.m.
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	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	the Battle Cat	5/12/04 6:57 a.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	mneub12	5/12/04 3:29 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Bob-B-Q	5/12/04 3:49 p.m.
	"...accidental because it was so slap-dash and..." *NM*	Andrew Nagy	5/13/04 12:07 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Steve Levinson	5/12/04 4:03 p.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	mneub12	5/12/04 4:56 p.m.
	A WITCH!! BURN HIM!! BURN HIM!! *NM*	the Battle Cat	5/13/04 6:30 a.m.
	Re: Marathon is so, SO misunderstood	Starship Security Officer	5/12/04 5:45 p.m.

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