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Whoa!
Posted By: mnemesis <mnemesis@bungie.org>Date: 6/22/03 11:32 p.m.

In Response To: mnemesis: my theory (HAHAHAHAHAHA) (alex cross)

What ever it is you're smokin', give me some! :-)

: To say that any intelligent race possessing emotions and free will is a
: perfectly uniform alliance is pratically absurd, excluding radical A.I.
: development. So, we will say the same theorem holds true for the
: forerunner. One side was a peaceful and benevolent race, while the other
: used their free will in proving true that science and weapons do go hand
: in hand. These were the forerunner that were the enemy to the benevolent
: forerunner; the enemy forerunner will now be referred to as the
: H-forerunner (Halo-forerunner) for future discussion. The benevolent side
: will be B-forerunner respectively.

: The H-forerunner are a minority in their time, with their ideas not being
: accepted by the common whole, but they desired so much to put their ideas
: to use. With their intelligence, they created A.I.s (Guilty Sparks and
: sentinels) and labor machines that aided in the construction of the rings.
: Halo is of great power obviously, and the construction of the ring
: represents the hellish temptation for power. The B-forerunner watched
: apprehensively as halos were constructed across the whole known universe,
: but none knew of their true purpose. The B-forerunners watched as Halos
: were test fired in unoccupied areas of space, but demonstrated god-like
: destruction. Also, there was an increase in vanishing B-forerunner
: vessels, but not due to the Halos. So a B-forerunner espionage unit was
: constructed and inserted on the Halos to examine what actions were taking
: place; they were amazed to find flora and fauna beyond their wildest
: imagination, but were horrified to find out that a creature was being kept
: on the rings. Many canisters were filled with spore like spiders fo the
: flood, but nothing prepared them for what was next. The major
: disappearances of B-forerunner vessels was finally explained;
: B-forerunners were kidnapped and uses as experiments for the flood. Thus,
: the H-forerunner came to represent all that was evil of their kind. The
: Halos were being fired because attempts to contain outbreaks on the ring
: were still immature.

: So, secretly, the B-forerunners had no choice but to give into wrath, and
: seek retribution. Since the B-forerunners were the majority, organizing
: the larger army was effortless. Numerous B-forerunners were ordered to lay
: seige to all the rings, and all occupied planets of the H-forerunner. The
: attack was accurately planned, and in outrage, the B-forerunner organized
: extermination squads, revealing that even a benevolent race is tempted in
: hellish ways. Most of the H-forerunner were wiped out, and the Halos
: abandoned. The forerunner A.I.s witnessed the war, but could not evaluate
: why a species would destroy itself with such furious emotions, and as a
: result, some A.I.s went rampant trying to find out why (343 GS anyone?).

I think that's a pretty neat explanation for 343 GS's insanity. It seems to me that an AI would love nothing more than to run through the same routines day after day for 100,000+ years. Why would that cause insanity? Unless, of course, his AI code was more sophisticated than just routine maintenance and bookeeping. Then again, the Forerunner are supposedly a long-view kind of race. Why wouldn't their servant be able to survive eons without developing "personality" flaws? ;-)

: However, the B-forerunners were tempted to find out everything the
: H-forerunners tampered with, and as a result, released the flood on
: multiple Halos. The A.I.s assumed the B-forerunners had the exact same
: agenda, and as result, were tricked into firing some of the rings,
: destroying most of their kind. The B-forerunners who fired the rings were
: so awestruck at what thresholds of genocide they had crossed, and tried
: retaliating against the A.I.s, but were met with superior H-forerunner
: technology (Precision lasers), and the B-forerunner (with PLASMA
: technology...you can see where this is going), wanting nothing to do with
: what they had done, abandoned all systems containing the rings. The
: current whereabouts of the forerunner, unknown. (evil laugh, bwa hahahaha)

: Now we must see what happens afterwards, some H-forerunner were persecuted to
: the reaches of space, and some hid in caves of a lush tropical homeworld
: that they used to as a model for Halo's environments; today, it is called
: earth.

Heh. Neat twist. :-)

: The covenant banded together under the prophets lead after scrutiny of the
: forerunner ruins; they use forerunner tech, so something must have
: survived the Halo firing. Halo is designed to destroy all sentient life,
: but not necessarily everything.

: Technology was harnessed, and the Covenant entered the space age early, and
: that helped unify their intelligent races. But the core of the Covenant
: was religion. The B-forerunner were revered as gods, since most of the
: technology left for the Covenant was from them, which still was rendered
: obsolete by H-forerunner technology, or as we see with pitched battles on
: Halo 04, precision lasers vs plasma technology. The Covenant used the
: B-forerunner tech even better than they did, in terms of weaponry anyway.
: Their religion focused around the war between forerunners, and knew of the
: great pains both had suffered, so they perfected weapons technology, and
: established an almost absolutist unity under the prophecy, but nothing
: prepared any of the covenant for what they found next, Halo.

: They landed, they searched, they were thwarted by the flood. To put short
: anyway. But religious archives (forerunner databanks) stated that these
: were the creations of the H-forerunner, or simply put probably by covenant
: standards, DEMONS. Demons that would unleash a hell upon all those who
: were tempted for power. Halo is a weapon of power, and as a result, the
: prophets declared that anything of H-forerunner design was evil, and
: should be wielded with caution. The Covenant used their effective weapons
: to destroy a ring, and end flood and H-forerunner A.I. threat near their
: homeworld.

: Later in their examinations, they discovered what territory the H-forerunner
: used to hold, and discovered that is was occupied by a brash yet
: intelligent race, humans. Documents revealing the extent of the holy war
: (forerunner civil war) revealed that the complete extermination of the
: H-forerunner turned out to be inconclusive. Instinctively, they thought
: some had survived...

: This through the Covenant in a frenzy, since they realized the evils of the
: H-forerunners, and their creations. The prophets ordered two years of
: study of the human race (which would explain why they broadcast in our
: language), and after the two years, completely destroy what is left of the
: H-forerunner, in essence, renewing and old war, and finally bringing it to
: an end.

: Some evidence that supports my theory

: -The elite symbol is not found on Halo at all I believe, so it might not have
: been a widely used symbol for the H-forerunner

: -The grunts keep saying while shooting "die devil!"

Not to be nitpicky, but since a lot of people write in and mention this, I figured this would be a good place to address it. My gut instinct is that this is nothing more than Joe having fun making up phrases in the recording booth. The Grunts are such a comical part of the game (fuel-rod cannons aside), that I wouldn't put too much stock in their phrases. That's just me, though. ;-)

: -Guilty Spark is insane as a result of being exposed to a forerunner civil
: war with complex emotions he can't understand, and has spent so much time
: trying to, yet seems persistant in carrying out his tasks. He's spent time
: monitoring the communications of the H-forerunner, and as a result has had
: to learn multiple languages (ENGLISH...he spoke English people)

I like the insanity part, but the fact that he (and the Grunts) appear to speak English is more a function of our sophisticated MJOLNIR translator than anything else. ;-)

: -The Covenant no doubt regard the H-forerunner as evil, but are willing to
: use their weaponry against them, which almost symbolizes a temptation from
: their form of hell. Halo is a holy place, but one that should be wielded
: wisely; obviously, as all those who try to wield extreme power, they fail

: -I said the Covenant destroyed a Halo, which can be recently explained by the
: X-factor quote of us battling on multiple Halo ruins. BOOYAH!

: Well I know I didn't cover every little detail, but this should give a very
: good yet general idea of where the Halo plot is leading. If anyone sees
: flaws, things I could build on, or if anyone has questions, I'm happily
: all ears.

Very nice. Keep smok... er, thinking!

-mnemesis


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Replies:

mnemesis: my theory (HAHAHAHAHAHA)alex cross 6/22/03 10:20 p.m.
     Oh yeah...***MAJOR SPOILERS IN MY POST*** *NM*alex cross 6/22/03 10:23 p.m.
     So many theories.Simpsons Rule 6/22/03 11:19 p.m.
           Re: So many theories.alex cross 6/22/03 11:34 p.m.
           Re: So many theories.poopt 6/23/03 1:15 p.m.
                 Re: So many theories.Simpsons Rule 6/24/03 8:26 p.m.
     Whoa!mnemesis 6/22/03 11:32 p.m.
           Re: Whoa!alex cross 6/22/03 11:45 p.m.
     Re: mnemesis: my theory (HAHAHAHAHAHA)desecrator 6/23/03 2:22 a.m.
     Did alll that typing hurt your fingers? *NM*BLown-Upp 6/23/03 3:20 a.m.
     What IfHuckle Baal 6/26/03 10:03 a.m.
           Re: What IfNerrolken 7/1/03 10:02 a.m.
     Re: mnemesis: my theory (HAHAHAHAHAHA)Nerrolken 7/1/03 10:32 a.m.
           Something that might......AlStrong 7/1/03 11:54 a.m.
           Re: mnemesis: my theory (HAHAHAHAHAHA)alex cross 7/1/03 12:06 p.m.
                 BreakthroughNerrolken 7/2/03 10:54 a.m.



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