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Re: The Flood can spread without the rangers
Posted By: Ciarán <halo2screensaver@blackice.ie>Date: 2/11/03 6:37 a.m.

In Response To: Re: The Flood can spread without the rangers (Barkbat)

: I don't think what your saying about the quote is right. In fact i'm pretty
: sure its wrong. It's quite tough to explain why though but i'll give it a
: go.

: "343GS: You can see how the body's been transformed by the genetic
: restructuring of the Flood infection. The small rangers carry spores that
: cause a host to mutate. The mutated host then produces spores that can
: pass the Flood to others. It is insidious and elegant. As long as any
: hosts remain, the Flood is virulent."

: IF he means the small rangers are the 'little poppers' and the spores unknown
: microscopic particles then wouldn't he say...

: "The small rangers carry spores that cause a host to mutate. The mutated
: host then produces rangers that can pass the Flood to others."

: This process is observable in the game world - mutated hosts do produce
: 'small rangers', and the many 'small rangers' do rush around trying to
: pass the flood to others.

: The way he puts it according to you though, he is simply saying 'once your
: chest cavity is opened by a 'small ranger' you'll grow a disease and
: spread the disease to others'. This is not strictly a lie, but it is
: pretty uninformative, and an uncannily poor way of describing the process
: going on all around you.

: It implies that the poppers job as a sub-secies is done - once the first
: generation of hosts are infected the disease is spread directly by the
: hosts, without the use of the little poppers. It infects you, and you
: infect stuff without it afterwards. This ignores the fact that
: 1) the flood do continue reproducing the poppers throughout and they are
: therefore necessary to the species reproduction post-first generation.
: 2) the warriors kill you. If the flood are only interested in spreading and
: multiplying, and the warriors CAN spread the flood disease from day 1
: without little poppers, then why kill you? Why not, like the little
: poppers, just weaken you, infect you, and go about thier business?

: I hope you understand where I'm coming from. If not never mind.

I do understand where you're coming from. As ever 343GS's statement is a bit ambiguous, which is what leads to all this speculation :)

I don't challenge the fact that the Infection Forms can create Carriers, which create more Infection Forms, and so on. In fact, I think that this is probably the main way the Flood spreads, i.e. through Infection Forms.

I suppose it all boils down to interpretation of "small rangers" and "spores". I am still not convinced that Rangers = Carriers, in fact I do believe that Rangers = Infection Forms. This implies that the "spores" are small and spore-like :) and they are what cause the genetic mutation. If this is true, then my point is that there is another way that the Flood can spread, i.e. Flood spores from infected hosts such as Warriors.

Now, you have a good point where you ask why do the Warriors try to kill you? Well, in the game, the Infection Forms will also kill you if your shields are depleted. But if you are dead, does this stop you being used as a host? I don't know. The Flood Anatomy pages state that the controller Infection Form uses the body's life support systems, hence how you can kill them with the shotgun. But this could mean that the body needs to be relatively intact and relatively fresh - i.e. the life support systems (heart, lungs, etc.) are still functional enough, even though the original owner may be brain dead. So, if the Warriors kill you, then maybe you can still be infected for a short while after you're dead.

To be honest, I'm not sure, and it's mostly down to interpretation of 343GS's statement. However, I still believe that he means Rangers = Infection Forms, and that Spores are exactly that, spores, like with a fungus.

Ciarán.


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The Flood can spread without the rangersCiarán 2/10/03 7:28 a.m.
     Cue spooky music *NM*Louis Wu 2/10/03 8:12 a.m.
           Re: Cue spooky musicCiarán 2/11/03 10:25 a.m.
                 Re: Cue spooky musicLouis Wu 2/11/03 1:29 p.m.
                       Re: Cue spooky musicmnemesis 2/11/03 4:44 p.m.
                 Re: Cue spooky musicCount Zero 2/11/03 8:00 p.m.
                       Re: Cue spooky musicCiarán 2/12/03 6:30 a.m.
                             Re: Cue spooky musicCiarán 2/12/03 7:09 a.m.
                                   Re: Cue spooky musicLouis Wu 2/12/03 7:41 a.m.
                                   Re: Cue spooky musicLouis Wu 2/12/03 8:05 a.m.
                                         Re: Cue spooky musicCiarán 2/12/03 9:06 a.m.
     Lone Flood Rangerpoena.dare #CP# 2/10/03 8:43 a.m.
           Re: Boo...hiss *NM*Warbow 2/10/03 8:49 a.m.
                 Re: Lone Flood Rangerkiro69 2/11/03 2:18 p.m.
     Re: The Flood can spread without the rangersRoss Mills 2/10/03 10:04 a.m.
           Re: The Flood can spread without the rangersCiarán 2/10/03 10:15 a.m.
                 Re: The Flood can spread without the rangersRoss Mills 2/10/03 10:16 a.m.
                       Re: The Flood can spread without the rangersCiarán 2/10/03 10:22 a.m.
                             Let me speculate man! It's healthy! :-) *NM*Ross Mills 2/10/03 10:35 a.m.
                                   Re: Let me speculate man! It's healthy! :-)Ciarán 2/10/03 10:51 a.m.
                                         Re: Let me speculate man! It's healthy! :-)Warbow 2/10/03 11:00 a.m.
                                               Rangers = Infection Forms - justification *LONG*Ciarán 2/10/03 11:51 a.m.
                                                     Re: Rangers = Infection Forms - justification *LONWarbow 2/10/03 12:14 p.m.
                                                           Re: Rangers = Infection Forms - justification *LONWado SG 2/10/03 6:33 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Rangers = Infection Forms - justification *LONCiarán 2/11/03 6:39 a.m.
                                                                       Reply about Flood Spores - longWado SG 2/11/03 12:03 p.m.
     Re: The Flood can spread without the rangersBarkbat 2/10/03 8:13 p.m.
           Re: The Flood can spread without the rangersCiarán 2/11/03 6:37 a.m.



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