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Re: Halo Designs through the years.
Posted By: Ragashingo <ragashingo@mac.com>	Date: 11/12/12 5:47 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Halo Designs through the years. (scarab) : They can't dodge needlers so a needler just kills them in a second or two. : What a come down, for Elites, from the original days. Who can't dodge? Halo 4 Elites certainly can. I've seen two clear dodge types. They can do that big juke to the left or right where they sorta leap instead of just strafing. They did this in Reach a lot. They can also do the Evade like dodge / roll that gets them well out of the way. I've only seen this second one once or maybe twice in 4, but it's in there. I'm not really sure how a Needler being good at Elites is a come down. It has killed them well in every Halo. If anything the changes to the Needler, and not Elites AI, makes them easier to kill in later games. In Halo 1 the needles moved so slow that an Elite had more than enough time to simply strafe out of the way. Now in 4 needles must move twice as fast or more. Practically everything but vehicles die to it in short order! I'm in no way saying Halo 4 Elites are perfect. They do sometimes stand around a bit more than they used to. They also seem to be almost all shield and very little health. Feels like once I do break the shield they pretty much just die. Not vs. head shots, but vs any gun. Back in Halo 1 breaking the shield with an AR was just step one, you could chase them around the corner blazing away and if you aimed poorly you'd run out of ammo before you could kill them.

Message Index

Halo Designs through the years.	Rice	11/12/12 7:46 a.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Bry	11/12/12 8:38 a.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Rice	11/12/12 9:23 a.m.
Purposeful inconsistency	Leviathan	11/12/12 12:31 p.m.
Re: Purposeful inconsistency	Ibeechu	11/12/12 1:14 p.m.
Jackals no longer awkward to kill	scarab	11/12/12 2:25 p.m.
Re: Jackals no longer awkward to kill	Ragashingo	11/12/12 3:41 p.m.
Re: Jackals no longer awkward to kill	scarab	11/12/12 3:55 p.m.
Re: Purposeful inconsistency	scarab	11/12/12 2:19 p.m.
Re: Purposeful inconsistency	JDQuackers	11/12/12 2:46 p.m.
Re: Purposeful inconsistency	Leviathan	11/12/12 3:40 p.m.
Re: Purposeful inconsistency	scarab	11/12/12 3:57 p.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	kapowaz	11/12/12 9:50 a.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Azo 'Galvat	11/12/12 10:12 a.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Ragashingo	11/12/12 10:13 a.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	kapowaz	11/12/12 10:20 a.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Ragashingo	11/12/12 10:31 a.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	kapowaz	11/12/12 10:44 a.m.
Gameplay Reasons. Also Jackal stuff.	Rice	11/12/12 12:27 p.m.
Re: Gameplay Reasons. Also Jackal stuff.	kapowaz	11/12/12 12:31 p.m.
Re: Gameplay Reasons. Also Jackal stuff.	Rice	11/12/12 12:34 p.m.
Re: Gameplay Reasons. Also Jackal stuff.	kapowaz	11/12/12 5:04 p.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Quirel	11/12/12 2:54 p.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Ragashingo	11/12/12 3:47 p.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	scarab	11/12/12 4:12 p.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	Ragashingo	11/12/12 5:47 p.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	scarab	11/12/12 11:29 p.m.
Re: Halo Designs through the years.	kapowaz	11/12/12 5:07 p.m.
It's still an Elite.	Rice	11/12/12 12:49 p.m.
Miniature cave troll	Rockslider	11/12/12 4:49 p.m.
Re: Miniature cave troll	scarab	11/12/12 4:54 p.m.
Re: Miniature cave troll	Rockslider	11/12/12 5:00 p.m.