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Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*
Posted By: Mator <why101@msn.com>Date: 10/20/12 11:20 a.m.

In Response To: Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID* (pete_the_duck)


: It makes me wonder if plasma grenades will detonate in the null spaces
: outside of maps. Like when you're way out, walking on invisible surfaces.
: It might be the game deleting the grenade because it's been pushed outside
: the map..

This is exactly what is happening. Testing in multiplayer ledging situations proves this. For instance, let's say you have a player standing on a light in the ceiling on Chiron TL34:

Now if you were to stick their foot, which is still inside of the map, and if they were to jump right afterwards the plasma grenade would be out of the map before it exploded and would be "deloaded" instantaneously. This is what we have observed.

The game doesn't want to deal with particles outside of the map. That includes plasma grenades stuck to vehicles/actors. Occassionally you can have half-explosions though, where the plasma grenade phases just barely outside of the map (not enough to deload) and explodes. We see this with Ghosts sometimes. If you throw a plasma nade behind a ghost and then stick the top tip of the seat, when it flips over the plasma nade will be pushed out of the ground. However, sometimes it's just barely pushed into the ground, and the Ghost can be seen to "twitch" when the plasma grenade should explode. This would be a "half explosion".

The half explosions aren't entirely understood, but it's thought that the half explosion is the result of a plasma grenade exploding while outside of the map (which isn't even really supposed to happen). I don't know if half explosions deal damage, but I'd wager that they do.

It'd be interesting to do an experiment using turbotabbing to see if plasma grenades actually deload when they're stuck to a player outside of the map or if the only thing we're observing is the explosion being dampened.

Here's a video of some snuffing and half explosions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diV1fPxvssU>

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Anywho, those are my thoughts on this particular phenomena.

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H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 10/17/12 12:55 p.m.
     Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*JDQuackers 10/17/12 2:55 p.m.
           Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 10/17/12 3:04 p.m.
     Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Captain Spark 10/17/12 7:57 p.m.
           Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 10/18/12 3:18 a.m.
                 Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Louis Wu 10/18/12 10:48 a.m.
                       Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 10/18/12 12:22 p.m.
                             Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*pete_the_duck 10/18/12 2:07 p.m.
                                   Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*uberfoop 10/18/12 3:37 p.m.
                                   Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 10/18/12 3:45 p.m.
                                   Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Captain Spark 10/18/12 6:14 p.m.
                                   Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Mator 10/20/12 11:20 a.m.
                                         Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 10/20/12 11:55 a.m.
                                               Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Mator 10/20/12 12:12 p.m.
                 Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Captain Spark 10/18/12 12:35 p.m.
           Clever girl... *NM*Chewbaccawakka 10/18/12 5:19 a.m.
           So that's no accidentscarab 10/18/12 1:05 p.m.
                 Maybe due to grenade chasing?Rockslider 10/18/12 2:08 p.m.
                       Re: Maybe due to grenade chasing?JonnyOThan 10/18/12 4:03 p.m.
                             Reach BansheesRockslider 10/18/12 5:00 p.m.
                                   Re: Reach BansheesLouis Wu 10/18/12 5:08 p.m.
                                         Re: Reach Bansheesuberfoop 10/18/12 5:19 p.m.
                                               Re: Reach BansheesLouis Wu 10/18/12 5:25 p.m.
                                                     Re: Reach BansheesWarbow 10/19/12 8:09 a.m.
                                                           !!!Louis Wu 10/19/12 9:27 a.m.
                                         Re: Reach BansheesRockslider 10/18/12 6:27 p.m.
                                               Re: Reach BansheesLouis Wu 10/18/12 6:42 p.m.
                                                     Don't know what you guys are talking about.Leviathan 10/18/12 6:54 p.m.
                                                     Re: Reach BansheesRockslider 10/18/12 7:05 p.m.
                                                           Re: Reach BansheesLouis Wu 10/18/12 7:10 p.m.
                                                           Re: Reach Bansheesuberfoop 10/19/12 11:14 a.m.
                                               Re: Reach BansheesFyreWulff 10/18/12 8:49 p.m.
                                                     Re: Reach BansheesRockslider 10/19/12 4:33 a.m.
                                                           Halo 3 is detail-limited by lighting.uberfoop 10/19/12 12:17 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Halo 3 is detail-limited by lighting.Rockslider 10/19/12 4:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Reach Bansheesuberfoop 10/18/12 5:23 p.m.
                       Re: Maybe due to grenade chasing?scarab 10/19/12 5:23 a.m.
                             Re: Maybe due to grenade chasing?Rockslider 10/19/12 6:21 a.m.
                                   Re: Maybe due to grenade chasing?scarab 10/19/12 5:47 p.m.
     GRUNT VANDALCody Miller 10/18/12 11:08 a.m.
     The high flying Elite was definitely my favorite! *NM*Lurono 10/18/12 5:48 p.m.
     Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*PerseusSpartacus 11/23/12 1:58 p.m.
           Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 11/28/12 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*PerseusSpartacus 11/30/12 12:10 a.m.
                       Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 11/30/12 11:49 a.m.
                             Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*PerseusSpartacus 11/30/12 4:08 p.m.
                                   Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*Rockslider 12/1/12 6:12 a.m.
                                         Re: H1 freakiness and fun *VID*PerseusSpartacus 12/1/12 1:23 p.m.



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