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Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out now
Posted By: SonGoharotto <SonGoharotto@gmail.com>Date: 10/12/12 3:01 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out now (Grizzlei)


: I've always seen the Kobayashi Maru test to be a sign of Starfleet's
: incompetence as an effective fighting force. As an assessment of one's
: cumulative skills as a cadet, the premise of the scenario is very sound
: and a great tool for instructors. However, the test as a whole merely
: promotes how to lead people in an impossible scenario and doesn't seem to
: encourage eccentric, "out of the box" tactics that James Kirk
: used.

: Though he cheated, Kirk still demonstrated his skills as a tactician and
: utilized functionality (jamming, etc.) which you would expect of a warship
: in the 23rd century. Which brings me to...

Isn't that what I said? The Kobayashi Maru test isn't just about how you handle the scenario, but how you handle taking the test. Kirk displayed both sound tactical thinking in the scenario as well as brilliant strategic thinking by exploiting the test system itself.

I wonder if the FUD writers are drawing a deliberate comparison to Kirk and the Kobayashi Maru. They're a bunch of nerds like us, after all.

: You have to presume that the Innies utilize the same technologies as you do

[Politically-charged statement alert.] Isn't that how America lost the Vietnam War?

Assuming the enemy will operate by the same rules you do is not how to win a war. Many of history's most important and decisive battles we were by doing something new and different. That is, in fact, the very lesson they learned in this episode.

Zuma Squad was (presumably) performing exactly as the UNSC drill instructors taught them to, which is exactly the UNSC's problem. Trying to fight a guerrilla force that knows how to exploit your weaknesses doesn't work unless you're willing to think outside the box, which Laskey does.

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Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowVincent 10/12/12 5:07 a.m.
     My Favorite PartJDQuackers 10/12/12 6:21 a.m.
           Re: My Favorite PartLurono 10/12/12 6:27 a.m.
           Re: My Favorite PartVincent 10/12/12 6:33 a.m.
                 Re: My Favorite PartFrankie 10/12/12 6:42 a.m.
                       Re: My Favorite PartVincent 10/12/12 6:56 a.m.
                       Re: My Favorite PartVAVA Mk2 10/12/12 11:41 a.m.
                             Re: My Favorite PartVAVA Mk2 10/12/12 12:01 p.m.
                                   Would have been better if the tag said "STINKELS" *NM*Revenant1988 10/12/12 12:13 p.m.
                                         I wonder...Beorn 10/12/12 12:45 p.m.
                                         Or "Mr. Chief" *NM*bluerunner 10/12/12 12:45 p.m.
                                         Re: Would have been better if the tag said "STINKEVAVA Mk2 10/12/12 4:47 p.m.
                       Re: My Favorite PartGeneral Vagueness 10/15/12 10:41 a.m.
           Re: My Favorite PartArchilen 10/12/12 6:34 a.m.
           The circle is complete...GrimBrother One 10/12/12 7:26 a.m.
                 lol, now it all makes sense! :D *NM*thebruce0 10/12/12 8:51 a.m.
                 Re: The circle is complete...stabbim 10/15/12 4:31 p.m.
           11/10zoojoo 10/12/12 7:46 a.m.
           Re: My Favorite PartDEEP NNN 10/12/12 8:58 a.m.
           Coming SoonZaneZavin 10/12/12 8:55 p.m.
           Re: My Favorite PartThe Loot 10/13/12 5:47 a.m.
     Why I'm psyched for next weekVincent 10/12/12 7:00 a.m.
           ^ Potential *SP* for next weekBeorn 10/12/12 1:00 p.m.
     Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowiForge 10/12/12 8:16 a.m.
     Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowserpx 10/12/12 8:38 a.m.
           Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowQuirel 10/12/12 10:01 a.m.
           Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowNsU Soldier 10/13/12 12:01 a.m.
     Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowRC Master 10/12/12 8:38 a.m.
           Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowDEEP NNN 10/12/12 9:06 a.m.
           Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowGeneral Vagueness 10/15/12 10:52 a.m.
                 Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowGeneral Vagueness 10/15/12 11:08 a.m.
           Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowCody Miller 10/15/12 12:09 p.m.
     Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowRagashingo 10/12/12 10:11 a.m.
           Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowRC Master 10/12/12 10:51 a.m.
                 Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowNotTheVacuum 10/12/12 11:06 a.m.
                       Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowSonGoharotto 10/12/12 11:21 a.m.
                             Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowthebruce0 10/12/12 12:47 p.m.
                                   Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowSonGoharotto 10/12/12 2:33 p.m.
                                         Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowthebruce0 10/12/12 4:59 p.m.
                                               Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowRC Master 10/12/12 5:17 p.m.
                                                     Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowthebruce0 10/15/12 9:39 a.m.
                             Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowGrizzlei 10/12/12 1:42 p.m.
                                   Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowSonGoharotto 10/12/12 3:01 p.m.
                                         Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowGrizzlei 10/12/12 3:08 p.m.
                                               Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowSonGoharotto 10/12/12 8:07 p.m.
                                                     Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowChewbaccawakka 10/12/12 8:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowGeneral Vagueness 10/15/12 11:26 a.m.
     Much better than last week.Postmortem 10/12/12 10:42 a.m.
           Re: Much better than last week.thebruce0 10/12/12 12:48 p.m.
                 Absolutely *NM*Beorn 10/12/12 12:51 p.m.
     Same as last week for me...Phoenix_9286 10/12/12 12:56 p.m.
     Sully's video feedsBeorn 10/12/12 1:10 p.m.
           Re: Sully's video feedsSonGoharotto 10/12/12 3:06 p.m.
                 Re: Sully's video feedspadraig08 10/13/12 1:57 a.m.
           Re: Sully's video feedsrolo1865 10/13/12 3:24 a.m.
                 Re: Sully's video feedsTDSpiral 10/13/12 9:32 a.m.
                 Re: Sully's video feedsserpx 10/15/12 2:55 p.m.
                       Re: Sully's video feedsChewbaccawakka 10/15/12 3:37 p.m.
                             Re: Sully's video feedsMid7night 10/15/12 3:40 p.m.
                                   Re: Sully's video feedsdavidfuchs 10/15/12 5:35 p.m.
                       Re: Sully's video feedsrolo1865 10/16/12 6:22 a.m.
     Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowMastaSin333 10/12/12 1:56 p.m.
           Re: Forward unto Dawn episode 2 - out nowGrizzlei 10/12/12 2:02 p.m.
           But how do you really feel? *NM*thebruce0 10/12/12 5:02 p.m.
     Now THIS is how it's done *SP*Ibeechu 10/12/12 2:37 p.m.
     Has anyone made a CAMS shirt we can order?Tex 10/12/12 2:39 p.m.
           Re: Has anyone made a CAMS shirt we can order?Beorn 10/12/12 3:18 p.m.
                 Assistance?Beorn 10/12/12 4:36 p.m.
           Re: Has anyone made a CAMS shirt we can order?Mr Daax 10/12/12 8:12 p.m.
                 Re: Has anyone made a CAMS shirt we can order?Beorn 10/13/12 1:33 a.m.
                       Re: Has anyone made a CAMS shirt we can order?Mr Daax 10/13/12 7:12 a.m.
     Has anyone else noticed...Beorn 10/13/12 1:31 a.m.
           Re: Has anyone else noticed...Chewbaccawakka 10/13/12 3:13 a.m.



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