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Re: Explaining HUD LUV
Posted By: uberfoopDate: 6/10/12 6:58 a.m.

In Response To: Explaining HUD LUV (nillapuddin)


: theres also no doubt in my mind that other people read your posts and
: completely agree with you beyond the shadow of a doubt, they want that out
: of body experience

That's not the argument of the people who disagree with you. At all.

We don't like clean HUDs because it's an "out of body experience." We like clean HUDs because they don't unnaturally get in the way.

Now, I know I'm a bit of an outlier on the following issue, but bear with me here:
You know how Halo 2 introduced the ability to see your legs? I hate Halo 2's implimentation of that. Why? It's not because seeing legs in unnatural; it's because having your vision blocked by them and desperately whipping your head around to try and fix the issue is unnatural. Realistically, my legs would be very unconsciously moved to not block my view. They would be there, but I wouldn't notice them. There would be no conscious concentration necessary to deal with the issue. Hence, Halo 1 actually seems much more natural and smooth in that respect to me. Thankfully, the newer games are a lot better with how the legs move, but the point stands.
Visor lines don't suffer from the exact same issues, but they can have similar effect; I usually don't notice Halo 3's lines, but when they do call attention to themselves, it's jarring. In that case, it's probably because the lines are so ridiculously unnatural; they're an obstruction that doesn't exist or move by any sort of physical logic that could ever make any sense (unless they're being shot directly onto my vision, which would be rather weird and also wouldn't make sense).

//========

Now, these possible issues might not arise. While discussions have been focusing on raw screen-space issues, I'm still holding out hope that the visor imagery not being half-baked and actually attempting to make sense this time will help my brain recognize it as an appropriate thing rather than something to try to ignore. It might, it might not. This sort of psycology is a hard thing to predict; you usually have to take a good stab at it to know for sure.


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Replies:

WTF HUD?General Vagueness 6/7/12 3:02 a.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?bryan newman 6/7/12 3:22 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?agdtinman 6/7/12 4:00 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?RC Master 6/7/12 4:27 a.m.
                 Re: WTF HUD?Bryan Newman 6/7/12 4:44 a.m.
                 I'd like the option to remove it. *NM*scarab 6/7/12 6:59 a.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?nillapuddin 6/7/12 3:25 a.m.
     I'm skeptical of it too, but...uberfoop 6/7/12 3:30 a.m.
     That's funnySonGoharotto 6/7/12 3:45 a.m.
     WTF Vagueness?Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 3:49 a.m.
           Re: WTF Vagueness?RC Master 6/7/12 4:33 a.m.
                 Re: WTF Vagueness?Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 4:35 a.m.
                       So you mean that its imperfect *NM*scarab 6/7/12 7:00 a.m.
                       It's also missing SUDO the sandwich maker *NM*thebruce0 6/7/12 1:43 p.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?kanbo 6/7/12 4:04 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?scarab 6/7/12 7:03 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?Archilen 6/7/12 7:13 a.m.
                 it's for the narrativerolandk73 6/7/12 1:35 p.m.
                 Re: WTF HUD?thebruce0 6/7/12 1:47 p.m.
                 I'm sorry, what?Mid7night 6/7/12 2:22 p.m.
                       Re: I'm sorry, what?scarab 6/7/12 3:13 p.m.
                             Re: I'm sorry, what?Mid7night 6/7/12 4:06 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm sorry, what?scarab 6/7/12 6:57 p.m.
                                   Careful...uberfoop 6/8/12 12:42 a.m.
                 I don't get itZackDark 6/7/12 5:56 p.m.
                       Re: I don't get itkanbo 6/7/12 11:38 p.m.
                       ProofsThe Lionheart 6/8/12 3:53 a.m.
                             Re: ProofsZackDark 6/8/12 4:28 a.m.
                             Re: Proofsthebruce0 6/8/12 2:12 p.m.
                                   Re: ProofsZackDark 6/9/12 8:04 a.m.
     Y'know, I really like the new HUD.Gravemind 6/7/12 4:04 a.m.
     Only one part I'm bothering to reply tomattroe 6/7/12 4:12 a.m.
           Re: Figure A *IMG*mattroe 6/7/12 4:17 a.m.
                 boom, mattroe nailed it, I love the new hud *NM*kidtsunami 6/7/12 4:24 a.m.
                 I agree with you mattroeWhoLikesChicken 6/7/12 5:43 a.m.
                       Re: I agree with you mattroeuberfoop 6/7/12 5:57 a.m.
                             Some say clean, some say boring :P *NM*mattroe 6/7/12 6:05 a.m.
                             FLAWLESS VICTORY *NM*kanbo 6/7/12 6:10 a.m.
                             oooh nice! *NM*scarab 6/7/12 7:05 a.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?ZackDark 6/7/12 4:21 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?Bryan Newman 6/7/12 4:56 a.m.
                 Re: WTF HUD?Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 5:04 a.m.
                 Re: WTF HUD?uberfoop 6/7/12 5:34 a.m.
                       Re: WTF HUD?bryan newman 6/7/12 5:56 a.m.
                             Re: WTF HUD?Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 6:05 a.m.
                             Re: WTF HUD?uberfoop 6/7/12 6:12 a.m.
                                   Re: WTF HUD?bryan newman 6/7/12 6:55 a.m.
                                         Re: WTF HUD?uberfoop 6/7/12 7:37 a.m.
                                               Re: WTF HUD?Bryan Newman 6/7/12 11:49 p.m.
                                   Great 1080P monitor WITH speakers, $145. Also HMDsThe Lionheart 6/7/12 1:00 p.m.
                                         Spambot in aisle one.Quirel 6/7/12 6:54 p.m.
                                         Re: Also HMDsnillapuddin 6/7/12 8:51 p.m.
                                               Sorry nilla...the future is smart glass...bryan newman 6/8/12 2:43 a.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?Apollo 6/7/12 6:01 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?ZackDark 6/7/12 6:32 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?uberfoop 6/7/12 6:38 a.m.
                 Re: WTF HUD?Apollo 6/7/12 7:11 a.m.
                       Re: WTF HUD?uberfoop 6/7/12 7:39 a.m.
                 Re: WTF HUD?mattroe 6/7/12 7:52 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?RC Master 6/7/12 5:41 p.m.
     Serious questionJDQuackers 6/7/12 11:52 a.m.
           Not reallyZackDark 6/7/12 6:19 p.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?iForge 6/7/12 1:05 p.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?scarab 6/7/12 3:22 p.m.
                 I like soma deez ideazThe Lionheart 6/8/12 3:59 a.m.
                       Re: I like soma deez ideazscarab 6/8/12 12:45 p.m.
                             Re: I like soma deez ideazQuirel 6/8/12 1:06 p.m.
                                   Re: I like soma deez ideazThe Alpha ELite 6/8/12 1:26 p.m.
                                         Re: I like soma deez ideazZackDark 6/9/12 7:56 a.m.
                                   Re: I like soma deez ideazscarab 6/8/12 2:23 p.m.
                                   Firefight voiceworkThe Lionheart 6/9/12 3:38 a.m.
                                         Re: Firefight voiceworkQuirel 6/9/12 4:04 a.m.
                                               Re: Firefight voiceworkThe Lionheart 6/9/12 3:17 p.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?General Vagueness 6/9/12 12:55 a.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?General Vagueness 6/10/12 1:24 a.m.
           Re: WTF HUD?ZackDark 6/10/12 7:27 p.m.
                 Intersting thing about the shieldZackDark 6/10/12 7:29 p.m.
                       Re: Intersting thing about the shieldGeneral Vagueness 6/10/12 8:03 p.m.
                             Re: Intersting thing about the shieldZackDark 6/10/12 8:34 p.m.
                 Re: WTF HUD?Phoenix_9286 6/10/12 8:25 p.m.
                       Re: WTF HUD?ZackDark 6/10/12 8:38 p.m.
                             Re: WTF HUD?uberfoop 6/10/12 9:08 p.m.
     Re: WTF HUD?General Vagueness 6/10/12 4:48 a.m.
           Explaining HUD LUVnillapuddin 6/10/12 6:20 a.m.
                 Re: Explaining HUD LUVuberfoop 6/10/12 6:58 a.m.
                 Re: Explaining HUD LUVmattroe 6/10/12 3:35 p.m.
                 Re: Explaining HUD LUVGeneral Vagueness 6/10/12 7:56 p.m.
                       Re: Explaining HUD LUVZackDark 6/10/12 8:32 p.m.
                             Re: Explaining HUD LUVGeneral Vagueness 6/10/12 8:39 p.m.
                                   Re: Explaining HUD LUVZackDark 6/10/12 8:44 p.m.
                                         Re: Explaining HUD LUVnillapuddin 6/10/12 11:39 p.m.
                                               Re: Explaining HUD LUVGeneral Vagueness 6/11/12 3:42 a.m.
                                                     Re: Explaining HUD LUVnillapuddin 6/11/12 5:19 a.m.
                                                           Re: Explaining HUD LUVuberfoop 6/11/12 5:51 a.m.
                                                                 Erm..uberfoop 6/11/12 5:58 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Erm..nillapuddin 6/11/12 5:21 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Erm..RC Master 6/11/12 9:55 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Erm..nillapuddin 6/11/12 10:28 p.m.
                                                           Re: Explaining HUD LUVGeneral Vagueness 6/11/12 11:15 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Explaining HUD LUVnillapuddin 6/12/12 6:57 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Explaining HUD LUVGeneral Vagueness 6/12/12 5:47 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Explaining HUD LUVnillapuddin 6/12/12 6:24 p.m.



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