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WTF HUD?

Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com> Date: 6/7/12 3:02 a.m.

I didn't say anything about this earlier because the moment kind of passed, and then after I'd looked over the new footage and pictures I noticed it was still around, but I checked to see if anyone else was talking about it so as not to clutter the forum, and it took me almost two days.
WTF is going on with the HUD in Halo 4?
In some of the older videos some of the HUD elements were kind of sloshing around as the player moved. Thankfully I haven't noticed it in the newer videos but if you look closely something like that happens in the campaign demonstrations when the Chief jumps down.
I might have mentioned the pointless lines, if not, there are pointless lines on the HUD.
Apparently video can now play off to the side. Why clutter it more, especially if it the video is going to be scrunched anyway and audio always worked fine before? It seems like progress for the sake of progress.
The weird blue shading is back from Halo 3, and it's worse, in fact it looks worse now than it did in earlier pictures. The edges of the viewable area are mostly covered with this haze, and it's worse than in Halo 3 and ODST because not only does it tint whatever's in the area, it seems to also darken it a bit and it blurs it a little. It seems the worst on the bottom of the screen. The effect seems a little diminished in multiplayer, but that doesn't help much.
What really gets me, though, is the blacked-out areas of the screen, which is only in the campaign footage for whatever reason. WTF? Who thought this was a good idea? How is this helpful or immersive or even realistic? It looks like it's in the shape of the Chief's helmet, but shouldn't that at the very least look like his helmet and not plain black? Why would the UNSC or Cortana make something that blocks his view, or blocks it more than before? Why wouldn't they have the most-- if you'll pardon the usage-- spartan HUD they can get away with?
What's awful is the black areas and the blue areas together. They take away area that I would be able to see, area that I should be able to see. I'm fine with the little text, I can kind of see the little lines being ignorable and not worth thinking about, the video isn't too bad, I could've pretty much ignored the moving HUD elements and it looks like that was made better, and I got somewhat used to the blue haze, but that doesn't make it worthwhile, and the blacked-out areas are just mind-boggling, and all together this HUD looks terrible.
343 Industries, I respect you guys, I really do. Maybe not a lot, but I do. Maybe I don't really trust you, but I know this is hard and being a branch of Microsoft, and having this weight of expectation on you, and coming together with new people to work on an existing thing all don't make it easier, and I don't think you'll totally blow it.
I defy anyone to tell me how lowering visibility of my environment with stuff that is objectively useless is helpful.
So I ask you, please 343i, please fix this before you ship it, I don't want this to get out and embarrass you guys as much as I'd be embarrassed if I put out a product like this.

You cannot fall off the floor.

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WTF HUD? General Vagueness 6/7/12 3:02 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? bryan newman 6/7/12 3:22 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? agdtinman 6/7/12 4:00 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? RC Master 6/7/12 4:27 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Bryan Newman 6/7/12 4:44 a.m.

I'd like the option to remove it. *NM* scarab 6/7/12 6:59 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? nillapuddin 6/7/12 3:25 a.m.

I'm skeptical of it too, but... uberfoop 6/7/12 3:30 a.m.

That's funny SonGoharotto 6/7/12 3:45 a.m.

WTF Vagueness? Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 3:49 a.m.

Re: WTF Vagueness? RC Master 6/7/12 4:33 a.m.

Re: WTF Vagueness? Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 4:35 a.m.

So you mean that its imperfect *NM* scarab 6/7/12 7:00 a.m.

It's also missing SUDO the sandwich maker *NM* thebruce0 6/7/12 1:43 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? kanbo 6/7/12 4:04 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? scarab 6/7/12 7:03 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Archilen 6/7/12 7:13 a.m.

it's for the narrative rolandk73 6/7/12 1:35 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? thebruce0 6/7/12 1:47 p.m.

I'm sorry, what? Mid7night 6/7/12 2:22 p.m.

Re: I'm sorry, what? scarab 6/7/12 3:13 p.m.

Re: I'm sorry, what? Mid7night 6/7/12 4:06 p.m.

Re: I'm sorry, what? scarab 6/7/12 6:57 p.m.

Careful... uberfoop 6/8/12 12:42 a.m.

I don't get it ZackDark 6/7/12 5:56 p.m.

Re: I don't get it kanbo 6/7/12 11:38 p.m.

Proofs The Lionheart 6/8/12 3:53 a.m.

Re: Proofs ZackDark 6/8/12 4:28 a.m.

Re: Proofs thebruce0 6/8/12 2:12 p.m.

Re: Proofs ZackDark 6/9/12 8:04 a.m.

Y'know, I really like the new HUD. Gravemind 6/7/12 4:04 a.m.

Only one part I'm bothering to reply to mattroe 6/7/12 4:12 a.m.

Re: Figure A *IMG* mattroe 6/7/12 4:17 a.m.

boom, mattroe nailed it, I love the new hud *NM* kidtsunami 6/7/12 4:24 a.m.

I agree with you mattroe WhoLikesChicken 6/7/12 5:43 a.m.

Re: I agree with you mattroe uberfoop 6/7/12 5:57 a.m.

Some say clean, some say boring :P *NM* mattroe 6/7/12 6:05 a.m.

FLAWLESS VICTORY *NM* kanbo 6/7/12 6:10 a.m.

oooh nice! *NM* scarab 6/7/12 7:05 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? ZackDark 6/7/12 4:21 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Bryan Newman 6/7/12 4:56 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 5:04 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? uberfoop 6/7/12 5:34 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? bryan newman 6/7/12 5:56 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Phoenix_9286 6/7/12 6:05 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? uberfoop 6/7/12 6:12 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? bryan newman 6/7/12 6:55 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? uberfoop 6/7/12 7:37 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Bryan Newman 6/7/12 11:49 p.m.

Great 1080P monitor WITH speakers, $145. Also HMDs The Lionheart 6/7/12 1:00 p.m.

Spambot in aisle one. Quirel 6/7/12 6:54 p.m.

Re: Also HMDs nillapuddin 6/7/12 8:51 p.m.

Sorry nilla...the future is smart glass... bryan newman 6/8/12 2:43 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Apollo 6/7/12 6:01 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? ZackDark 6/7/12 6:32 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? uberfoop 6/7/12 6:38 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Apollo 6/7/12 7:11 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? uberfoop 6/7/12 7:39 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? mattroe 6/7/12 7:52 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? RC Master 6/7/12 5:41 p.m.

Serious question JDQuackers 6/7/12 11:52 a.m.

Not really ZackDark 6/7/12 6:19 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? iForge 6/7/12 1:05 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? scarab 6/7/12 3:22 p.m.

I like soma deez ideaz The Lionheart 6/8/12 3:59 a.m.

Re: I like soma deez ideaz scarab 6/8/12 12:45 p.m.

Re: I like soma deez ideaz Quirel 6/8/12 1:06 p.m.

Re: I like soma deez ideaz The Alpha ELite 6/8/12 1:26 p.m.

Re: I like soma deez ideaz ZackDark 6/9/12 7:56 a.m.

Re: I like soma deez ideaz scarab 6/8/12 2:23 p.m.

Firefight voicework The Lionheart 6/9/12 3:38 a.m.

Re: Firefight voicework Quirel 6/9/12 4:04 a.m.

Re: Firefight voicework The Lionheart 6/9/12 3:17 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? General Vagueness 6/9/12 12:55 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? General Vagueness 6/10/12 1:24 a.m.

Re: WTF HUD? ZackDark 6/10/12 7:27 p.m.

Intersting thing about the shield ZackDark 6/10/12 7:29 p.m.

Re: Intersting thing about the shield General Vagueness 6/10/12 8:03 p.m.

Re: Intersting thing about the shield ZackDark 6/10/12 8:34 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? Phoenix_9286 6/10/12 8:25 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? ZackDark 6/10/12 8:38 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? uberfoop 6/10/12 9:08 p.m.

Re: WTF HUD? General Vagueness 6/10/12 4:48 a.m.

Explaining HUD LUV nillapuddin 6/10/12 6:20 a.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV uberfoop 6/10/12 6:58 a.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV mattroe 6/10/12 3:35 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV General Vagueness 6/10/12 7:56 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV ZackDark 6/10/12 8:32 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV General Vagueness 6/10/12 8:39 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV ZackDark 6/10/12 8:44 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV nillapuddin 6/10/12 11:39 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV General Vagueness 6/11/12 3:42 a.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV nillapuddin 6/11/12 5:19 a.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV uberfoop 6/11/12 5:51 a.m.

Erm.. uberfoop 6/11/12 5:58 a.m.

Re: Erm.. nillapuddin 6/11/12 5:21 p.m.

Re: Erm.. RC Master 6/11/12 9:55 p.m.

Re: Erm.. nillapuddin 6/11/12 10:28 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV General Vagueness 6/11/12 11:15 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV nillapuddin 6/12/12 6:57 a.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV General Vagueness 6/12/12 5:47 p.m.

Re: Explaining HUD LUV nillapuddin 6/12/12 6:24 p.m.

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WTF HUD?
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>	Date: 6/7/12 3:02 a.m.
I didn't say anything about this earlier because the moment kind of passed, and then after I'd looked over the new footage and pictures I noticed it was still around, but I checked to see if anyone else was talking about it so as not to clutter the forum, and it took me almost two days. WTF is going on with the HUD in Halo 4? In some of the older videos some of the HUD elements were kind of sloshing around as the player moved. Thankfully I haven't noticed it in the newer videos but if you look closely something like that happens in the campaign demonstrations when the Chief jumps down. I might have mentioned the pointless lines, if not, there are pointless lines on the HUD. Apparently video can now play off to the side. Why clutter it more, especially if it the video is going to be scrunched anyway and audio always worked fine before? It seems like progress for the sake of progress. The weird blue shading is back from Halo 3, and it's worse, in fact it looks worse now than it did in earlier pictures. The edges of the viewable area are mostly covered with this haze, and it's worse than in Halo 3 and ODST because not only does it tint whatever's in the area, it seems to also darken it a bit and it blurs it a little. It seems the worst on the bottom of the screen. The effect seems a little diminished in multiplayer, but that doesn't help much. What really gets me, though, is the blacked-out areas of the screen, which is only in the campaign footage for whatever reason. WTF? Who thought this was a good idea? How is this helpful or immersive or even realistic? It looks like it's in the shape of the Chief's helmet, but shouldn't that at the very least look like his helmet and not plain black? Why would the UNSC or Cortana make something that blocks his view, or blocks it more than before? Why wouldn't they have the most-- if you'll pardon the usage-- spartan HUD they can get away with? What's awful is the black areas and the blue areas together. They take away area that I would be able to see, area that I should be able to see. I'm fine with the little text, I can kind of see the little lines being ignorable and not worth thinking about, the video isn't too bad, I could've pretty much ignored the moving HUD elements and it looks like that was made better, and I got somewhat used to the blue haze, but that doesn't make it worthwhile, and the blacked-out areas are just mind-boggling, and all together this HUD looks terrible. 343 Industries, I respect you guys, I really do. Maybe not a lot, but I do. Maybe I don't really trust you, but I know this is hard and being a branch of Microsoft, and having this weight of expectation on you, and coming together with new people to work on an existing thing all don't make it easier, and I don't think you'll totally blow it. I defy anyone to tell me how lowering visibility of my environment with stuff that is objectively useless is helpful. So I ask you, please 343i, please fix this before you ship it, I don't want this to get out and embarrass you guys as much as I'd be embarrassed if I put out a product like this.

WTF HUD?	General Vagueness	6/7/12 3:02 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	bryan newman	6/7/12 3:22 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	agdtinman	6/7/12 4:00 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	RC Master	6/7/12 4:27 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Bryan Newman	6/7/12 4:44 a.m.
I'd like the option to remove it. NM	scarab	6/7/12 6:59 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	nillapuddin	6/7/12 3:25 a.m.
I'm skeptical of it too, but...	uberfoop	6/7/12 3:30 a.m.
That's funny	SonGoharotto	6/7/12 3:45 a.m.
WTF Vagueness?	Phoenix_9286	6/7/12 3:49 a.m.
Re: WTF Vagueness?	RC Master	6/7/12 4:33 a.m.
Re: WTF Vagueness?	Phoenix_9286	6/7/12 4:35 a.m.
So you mean that its imperfect NM	scarab	6/7/12 7:00 a.m.
It's also missing SUDO the sandwich maker NM	thebruce0	6/7/12 1:43 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	kanbo	6/7/12 4:04 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	scarab	6/7/12 7:03 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Archilen	6/7/12 7:13 a.m.
it's for the narrative	rolandk73	6/7/12 1:35 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	thebruce0	6/7/12 1:47 p.m.
I'm sorry, what?	Mid7night	6/7/12 2:22 p.m.
Re: I'm sorry, what?	scarab	6/7/12 3:13 p.m.
Re: I'm sorry, what?	Mid7night	6/7/12 4:06 p.m.
Re: I'm sorry, what?	scarab	6/7/12 6:57 p.m.
Careful...	uberfoop	6/8/12 12:42 a.m.
I don't get it	ZackDark	6/7/12 5:56 p.m.
Re: I don't get it	kanbo	6/7/12 11:38 p.m.
Proofs	The Lionheart	6/8/12 3:53 a.m.
Re: Proofs	ZackDark	6/8/12 4:28 a.m.
Re: Proofs	thebruce0	6/8/12 2:12 p.m.
Re: Proofs	ZackDark	6/9/12 8:04 a.m.
Y'know, I really like the new HUD.	Gravemind	6/7/12 4:04 a.m.
Only one part I'm bothering to reply to	mattroe	6/7/12 4:12 a.m.
Re: Figure A IMG	mattroe	6/7/12 4:17 a.m.
boom, mattroe nailed it, I love the new hud NM	kidtsunami	6/7/12 4:24 a.m.
I agree with you mattroe	WhoLikesChicken	6/7/12 5:43 a.m.
Re: I agree with you mattroe	uberfoop	6/7/12 5:57 a.m.
Some say clean, some say boring :P NM	mattroe	6/7/12 6:05 a.m.
FLAWLESS VICTORY NM	kanbo	6/7/12 6:10 a.m.
oooh nice! NM	scarab	6/7/12 7:05 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	ZackDark	6/7/12 4:21 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Bryan Newman	6/7/12 4:56 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Phoenix_9286	6/7/12 5:04 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	uberfoop	6/7/12 5:34 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	bryan newman	6/7/12 5:56 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Phoenix_9286	6/7/12 6:05 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	uberfoop	6/7/12 6:12 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	bryan newman	6/7/12 6:55 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	uberfoop	6/7/12 7:37 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Bryan Newman	6/7/12 11:49 p.m.
Great 1080P monitor WITH speakers, $145. Also HMDs	The Lionheart	6/7/12 1:00 p.m.
Spambot in aisle one.	Quirel	6/7/12 6:54 p.m.
Re: Also HMDs	nillapuddin	6/7/12 8:51 p.m.
Sorry nilla...the future is smart glass...	bryan newman	6/8/12 2:43 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Apollo	6/7/12 6:01 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	ZackDark	6/7/12 6:32 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	uberfoop	6/7/12 6:38 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Apollo	6/7/12 7:11 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	uberfoop	6/7/12 7:39 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	mattroe	6/7/12 7:52 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	RC Master	6/7/12 5:41 p.m.
Serious question	JDQuackers	6/7/12 11:52 a.m.
Not really	ZackDark	6/7/12 6:19 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	iForge	6/7/12 1:05 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	scarab	6/7/12 3:22 p.m.
I like soma deez ideaz	The Lionheart	6/8/12 3:59 a.m.
Re: I like soma deez ideaz	scarab	6/8/12 12:45 p.m.
Re: I like soma deez ideaz	Quirel	6/8/12 1:06 p.m.
Re: I like soma deez ideaz	The Alpha ELite	6/8/12 1:26 p.m.
Re: I like soma deez ideaz	ZackDark	6/9/12 7:56 a.m.
Re: I like soma deez ideaz	scarab	6/8/12 2:23 p.m.
Firefight voicework	The Lionheart	6/9/12 3:38 a.m.
Re: Firefight voicework	Quirel	6/9/12 4:04 a.m.
Re: Firefight voicework	The Lionheart	6/9/12 3:17 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	General Vagueness	6/9/12 12:55 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	General Vagueness	6/10/12 1:24 a.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	ZackDark	6/10/12 7:27 p.m.
Intersting thing about the shield	ZackDark	6/10/12 7:29 p.m.
Re: Intersting thing about the shield	General Vagueness	6/10/12 8:03 p.m.
Re: Intersting thing about the shield	ZackDark	6/10/12 8:34 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	Phoenix_9286	6/10/12 8:25 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	ZackDark	6/10/12 8:38 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	uberfoop	6/10/12 9:08 p.m.
Re: WTF HUD?	General Vagueness	6/10/12 4:48 a.m.
Explaining HUD LUV	nillapuddin	6/10/12 6:20 a.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	uberfoop	6/10/12 6:58 a.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	mattroe	6/10/12 3:35 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	General Vagueness	6/10/12 7:56 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	ZackDark	6/10/12 8:32 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	General Vagueness	6/10/12 8:39 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	ZackDark	6/10/12 8:44 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	nillapuddin	6/10/12 11:39 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	General Vagueness	6/11/12 3:42 a.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	nillapuddin	6/11/12 5:19 a.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	uberfoop	6/11/12 5:51 a.m.
Erm..	uberfoop	6/11/12 5:58 a.m.
Re: Erm..	nillapuddin	6/11/12 5:21 p.m.
Re: Erm..	RC Master	6/11/12 9:55 p.m.
Re: Erm..	nillapuddin	6/11/12 10:28 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	General Vagueness	6/11/12 11:15 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	nillapuddin	6/12/12 6:57 a.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	General Vagueness	6/12/12 5:47 p.m.
Re: Explaining HUD LUV	nillapuddin	6/12/12 6:24 p.m.