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Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?
Posted By: Archilen	Date: 5/3/12 1:53 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4? (Leisandir) : Because the reaction to her was not entirely negative. The displeasure with : her work always bothered me, because the complaints I saw were ridiculous. : The main one I encountered was her claim that the Clone Army is only three : million strong - "But there's no way they could fight a Galaxy-wide : war with that small of an army!" Yeah, except the entire war is a : fabrication. Palpatine could've filmed two senators slapping each other : and, with proper editing software, convinced everyone they were in danger. There's a very comprehensive review of one of her Legacy era novels which elaborates on just how far she went with things. And no, it wasn't about the 3 million clones debate, but issues like godmodding her own characters while distorting and/or misinterpreting aspects of earlier works (on purpose or not). It's all over her work too - for example, she vilifies the Jedi, of all people, making up stuff they never did to make them seem more sinister. Another recurring aspect of her work is to make the designated villains extremely stupid and incapable of any form of argumentation, which results in most conversations ending up as condescending speeches from her "good" characters while the "bad" character takes all the flak. : As far as her treatment of the Mandalorians . . . they've always been a : pretty awesome culture. Now, they're an awesome culture with more to them : than "We kill things!" Have you played KotOR? The way the : Mandalorians are characterized there is awful. "Hey, we're a warrior : society and we like honor, except we really don't because most of us are : mercenaries now!" Yeah, but her version is basically "We're the best warriors in the galaxy, but we're also awesome at farming and whatever else we happen to do, we also make the best materials which are immune to everything. Oh, and our society and language are completely egalitarian and every one of us is morally impeccable" (even though they've been shown as being merciless raiders in a lot of earlier fiction). KT actually makes characters beg so they could join this omni-awesome club. Point is, though it may be nicely detailed, the lack of any meaningful flaws basically makes them a Mary Suetopia, as opposed to a properly nuanced culture. : On to Halo, a lot of people liked Glasslands, too. I'm tired of arguing about : how the characters' views of Halsey and the author's view are not the : same. Halsey isn't done yet, she hasn't been tucked away in some prison - : she's at a Forerunner facility. She's about to learn that John and Cortana : are still alive. She knows that P's got Osman indoctrinated and primed to : take over ONI. The shit is about to hit the fan. We'll see. Though I would argue that it's not just the characters' views which come through in the narrative, it's also the overall tone and style. The author can choose how the characters will interact, what they'll say and how they'll act or react to things. This has a huge impact on the tone. For one, Glasslands portrays Halsey as a doofus who's unable to come up with any form of meaningful comeback to even the most basic fallacies or factual inaccuracies. This has nothing to do with how other characters view her; that's just one part of a larger issue.

Message Index

Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Archilen	5/3/12 1:58 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	bryan newman	5/3/12 2:33 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Hawki	5/3/12 2:51 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Archilen	5/3/12 2:58 a.m.
I didn't mind glass lands....	Bryan Newman	5/3/12 7:02 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Leisandir	5/3/12 7:08 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Archilen	5/3/12 1:53 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Frankie	5/3/12 11:27 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Avateur	5/3/12 8:08 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	padraig08	5/3/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Avateur	5/4/12 10:05 a.m.
Nylund's Preoccupations	The Lionheart	5/3/12 10:00 p.m.
Re: Nylund's Preoccupations	KP	5/3/12 10:42 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	General Vagueness	5/5/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	SalientOne	5/5/12 3:50 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Dani	5/5/12 4:14 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	General Vagueness	5/5/12 4:25 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	5/5/12 6:14 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Louis Wu	5/5/12 6:43 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	SalientOne	5/6/12 2:47 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	General Vagueness	5/6/12 4:34 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	uberfoop	5/6/12 3:02 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Metalingus627	5/5/12 7:53 p.m.
Thank you very much, Salient One!	The Lionheart	5/5/12 11:57 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	TDSpiral	5/3/12 3:14 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Joony Joon	5/3/12 5:47 a.m.
YES. A THOUSAND TIMES YES.	Bones	5/3/12 5:46 a.m.
Re: YES. A THOUSAND TIMES YES.	davidfuchs	5/3/12 8:25 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	dogcom	5/3/12 10:28 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Cody Miller	5/3/12 1:14 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Phoenix_9286	5/3/12 2:58 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Leviathan	5/3/12 3:07 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Cody Miller	5/3/12 3:09 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Leviathan	5/3/12 3:14 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Cody Miller	5/3/12 6:51 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Leviathan	5/3/12 8:13 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Cody Miller	5/3/12 9:07 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Kermit	5/3/12 9:11 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Leviathan	5/3/12 9:36 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Cody Miller	5/3/12 10:03 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Leviathan	5/3/12 10:14 p.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	RC Master	5/4/12 4:11 a.m.
Re: Who's the writer for Halo 4?	Leviathan	5/4/12 5:21 a.m.
54 PAGES!?!?!	Gravemind	5/3/12 10:59 p.m.