It isn't all good. |
Posted By: rhubarb <swiss_rc@yahoo.ca> | Date: 4/14/12 10:40 a.m. |
In Response To: Change *slightly-long* (Der Flatulator)
: This is a copy of a post I wrote for the parallel thread on Waypoint, here
: In reply to this post
: Game developers want to 'push the envelope', create new experiences, add new
: gameplay, new mechanics. No game developer want to remake a game, using
: old technology, or the same gameplay as a game that already exists. Game
: developers want to craft new exciting experiences, and contribute to the
: evolution of gaming.
: This would not happen if developers continually tweaked an experience until
: it's "just right", because there is no "just right",
: there will always be another bug, another glitch, another balance
: impurity. Perfection is an asymptote, the closer you get to it, the
: further it seems to be away.
: Besides, Halo has been toying with the same essential gameplay for 10 years,
: it's time for a fresh start, and what better opportunity for a fresh start
: is a new development team?
: Also, it is very difficult to emulate, let alone enhance someone else's game,
: the vibe of games development isn't something that can be seen, written,
: or heard; it has to be experienced. Picking up where Bungie left off (from
: a gameplay/game design perspective) is impossible, as only a handful of
: employees have experienced working with Bungie in developing the original
: trilogy.
: I understand you want Halo to be like it used to, but it isn't feasible. We
: live in a world where perfection is unobtainable.
: Let 343i push the envelope in gaming, you might be pleasantly surprised how
: the game plays. Learning to adapt to change is tough, I should know; but
: remaining against change can prove to be even more painful.
If I can use Mass Effect 3 as an example, the sheer scale of fail of ME3 bodes ill of 'change' for changes sake. Granted, the game has it's good points, but the overall outcome may hurt the sales of their next games for years, if EA decides not to murder them in their sleep.
I have seven Halo games and enjoyed them all to varying degrees. I'm interested in Halo 4, but nothing of what little has been shown, makes me WANT to buy it, and some makes me NOT want to buy it. That's a failure in my book.
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Present thoughts about the future *long* | Hedgemony | 4/11/12 9:44 p.m. |
I'm Grim, & this is my favorite post on the forum *NM* | GrimBrother One | 4/11/12 9:50 p.m. |
Hear hear! *NM* | Das Kalk | 4/11/12 9:53 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 4/11/12 10:16 p.m. |
Brilliantly well put, mirrors my own thoughts. *NM* | Tiny | 4/11/12 10:19 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | stabbim | 4/11/12 10:23 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | bluerunner | 4/11/12 10:26 p.m. |
well put *NM* | kidtsunami | 4/11/12 10:29 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | KP | 4/11/12 10:31 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | tucsonbatman | 4/11/12 10:57 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | DEEP NNN | 4/12/12 6:37 a.m. |
Just you wait. You're next! :p *NM* | rhubarb | 4/12/12 10:57 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | breitzen | 4/11/12 10:41 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Frankie | 4/12/12 12:21 a.m. |
Frankie's mental image of HBO until release | The Lionheart | 4/12/12 12:36 a.m. |
You dun good kid, great post. *NM* | Pebbles | 4/12/12 12:55 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Frankie | 4/12/12 12:26 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Quirel | 4/12/12 12:46 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Das Kalk | 4/12/12 10:52 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Metalingus627 | 4/12/12 5:00 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | kanbo | 4/11/12 10:52 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Vic DeLeon | 4/11/12 10:56 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Der Flatulator | 4/16/12 9:44 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Der Flatulator | 4/16/12 9:49 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | RC Master | 4/16/12 10:58 a.m. |
We have seen the angst before. | Captain Spark | 4/11/12 11:00 p.m. |
Agreed | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 4/11/12 11:04 p.m. |
Sing it! Truth. *NM* | yakaman | 4/11/12 11:11 p.m. |
Well put, indeed. *NM* | Leviathan | 4/11/12 11:22 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | uberfoop | 4/11/12 11:35 p.m. |
Re: Change is gouda. *NM* | Hedgemony | 4/11/12 11:37 p.m. |
Halo 4 LE = Wheel of smoked gouda? *NM* | uberfoop | 4/12/12 12:09 a.m. |
Thank you again... | GrimBrother One | 4/11/12 11:49 p.m. |
Re: Thank you again... | Tiny | 4/12/12 7:53 a.m. |
Why Halo 4 will be a very bad game *Long, IMGs* | Schooly D | 4/12/12 12:07 a.m. |
Exquisitely well put, Hedge. | The Lionheart | 4/12/12 12:23 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Morhek | 4/12/12 12:36 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | stabbim | 4/12/12 12:48 a.m. |
Can a hipster hate hating? Is that possible? *NM* | The Lionheart | 4/12/12 12:56 a.m. |
I for one, can't wait for E3 | Pebbles | 4/12/12 1:01 a.m. |
Love is the new hate. *NM* | Kalamari | 4/12/12 1:25 a.m. |
Oh Yeah? | Bones | 4/12/12 1:21 a.m. |
Hedgemony: Voice of Reason and Love *NM* | thebruce0 | 4/12/12 1:44 a.m. |
I'm finding it harder to express my thoughts... | Phoenix_9286 | 4/12/12 2:16 a.m. |
Re: I'm finding it harder to express my thoughts.. | NsU Soldier | 4/12/12 5:24 a.m. |
Josh Holmes took notice of this on twitter. *NM* | Bryan Newman | 4/12/12 2:17 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | BlueNinja | 4/12/12 5:36 a.m. |
Of course you still have a place here. | The Lionheart | 4/12/12 11:45 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | General Vagueness | 4/16/12 6:54 p.m. |
I don't have favorites, but you're my favorite. *NM* | Louis Wu | 4/12/12 6:44 a.m. |
Nicely put :) *NM* | Ciarán | 4/12/12 6:48 a.m. |
Well said. *NM* | Beckx | 4/12/12 7:23 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | DEEP NNN | 4/12/12 7:37 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | SonofMacPhisto | 4/12/12 8:38 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | CaneCutter | 4/12/12 8:06 a.m. |
Completely Agree (Glad Someone Said It!) | ChrisTheeCrappy | 4/12/12 8:57 a.m. |
Re: Completely Agree (Glad Someone Said It!) | JDQuackers | 4/12/12 12:18 p.m. |
i agree | iForge | 4/12/12 10:37 a.m. |
Finally! | Der Flatulator | 4/12/12 10:45 a.m. |
Re: Finally! | Der Flatulator | 4/12/12 10:54 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Tawpgun | 4/12/12 10:58 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Postmortem | 4/12/12 10:58 a.m. |
Hedge is a Hammer | Impervium | 4/12/12 11:08 a.m. |
Well met, sir. | dogsounds | 4/12/12 12:08 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | padraig08 | 4/12/12 12:10 p.m. |
Best thing I've read on the net in a long while! | LostSpartan987 | 4/12/12 12:36 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Cody Miller | 4/12/12 3:23 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | DEEP NNN | 4/12/12 4:03 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Hawaiian Pig | 4/12/12 11:30 p.m. |
your thoughts on "social" | kidtsunami | 4/13/12 2:26 a.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | MacGyver10 | 4/12/12 3:31 p.m. |
You made my day, Hedge | CortanaVII | 4/12/12 4:36 p.m. |
Amen. *NM* | Lawnmower172 | 4/12/12 5:16 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | GreyThor | 4/12/12 8:51 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Quantum | 4/12/12 11:04 p.m. |
My thoughts on this situation. | Gravemind | 4/13/12 6:31 p.m. |
Re: My thoughts on this situation. | Gravemind | 4/13/12 6:39 p.m. |
Re: My thoughts on this situation. | 343winks. | 4/14/12 12:19 p.m. |
Like you've spoken for me. *Sorta Long* | DrDoctor | 4/13/12 11:29 p.m. |
Change *slightly-long* | Der Flatulator | 4/14/12 8:50 a.m. |
Re: Change *slightly-long* | DEEP NNN | 4/14/12 9:03 a.m. |
It isn't all good. | rhubarb | 4/14/12 10:40 a.m. |
Re: It isn't all good. | serpx | 4/14/12 2:45 p.m. |
Re: It isn't all good. | rhubarb | 4/14/12 3:29 p.m. |
Change for change's sake. | Gravemind | 4/14/12 7:11 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Harmanimus | 4/14/12 7:59 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Gravemind | 4/14/12 8:32 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Cody Miller | 4/14/12 10:07 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Leviathan | 4/14/12 10:52 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 12:20 a.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | SonofMacPhisto | 4/15/12 9:04 a.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Leviathan | 4/15/12 1:36 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 2:18 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Hawaiian Pig | 4/15/12 2:29 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Leviathan | 4/15/12 2:33 p.m. |
To HP and Levi | rhubarb | 4/15/12 3:01 p.m. |
Not at all | Leviathan | 4/15/12 3:15 p.m. |
Re: Not at all | rhubarb | 4/15/12 3:27 p.m. |
Re: Not at all | Leviathan | 4/15/12 3:47 p.m. |
Warning: Unintended rant | Metalingus627 | 4/15/12 5:13 p.m. |
Alienation is unavoidable | rhubarb | 4/15/12 5:31 p.m. |
Re: Alienation is unavoidable | Metalingus627 | 4/15/12 5:47 p.m. |
Because A sucks and B is an egg, obviously. | rhubarb | 4/15/12 6:31 p.m. |
Re: Because A sucks and B is an egg, obviously. | Metalingus627 | 4/15/12 7:04 p.m. |
My point is... | rhubarb | 4/15/12 7:55 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DHalo | 4/15/12 8:24 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | rhubarb | 4/15/12 8:45 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 9:04 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DHalo | 4/15/12 9:55 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | uberfoop | 4/15/12 10:11 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DHalo | 4/15/12 10:18 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | uberfoop | 4/15/12 10:26 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DHalo | 4/15/12 11:01 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/16/12 6:46 a.m. |
Re: My point is... | RC Master | 4/16/12 11:12 a.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/16/12 11:52 a.m. |
Re: to add to this | Revenant1988 | 4/16/12 12:25 p.m. |
PirateUnicorns.bungie.org | RC Master | 4/16/12 6:23 p.m. |
Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.org | Revenant1988 | 4/16/12 7:39 p.m. |
Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.org | thebruce0 | 4/17/12 11:18 a.m. |
Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.org | RC Master | 4/17/12 9:11 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | RC Master | 4/16/12 6:09 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/16/12 7:21 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | uberfoop | 4/16/12 7:54 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/16/12 8:01 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | uberfoop | 4/16/12 8:06 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | General Vagueness | 4/16/12 10:43 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/17/12 7:54 a.m. |
Re: My point is... | General Vagueness | 4/17/12 10:51 a.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/17/12 11:02 a.m. |
Re: My point is... | General Vagueness | 4/17/12 12:37 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/17/12 1:32 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | RC Master | 4/17/12 8:33 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | DEEP NNN | 4/17/12 10:43 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | Metalingus627 | 4/16/12 2:52 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | uberfoop | 4/16/12 3:08 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | Metalingus627 | 4/16/12 10:18 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | Gravemind | 4/16/12 3:17 p.m. |
Re: My point is... | Quirel | 4/16/12 6:17 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | SonGoharotto | 4/14/12 11:29 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Hawaiian Pig | 4/15/12 12:53 a.m. |
I have my moments *NM* | SonGoharotto | 4/15/12 8:08 a.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | 343winks. | 4/15/12 3:55 a.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | RC Master | 4/15/12 10:32 a.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | Hedgemony | 4/15/12 12:30 p.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | 343winks. | 4/16/12 4:50 a.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | 343winks. | 4/16/12 4:45 a.m. |
I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Louis Wu | 4/15/12 8:31 a.m. |
Just playing Devil's advocate here... | SonGoharotto | 4/15/12 9:23 a.m. |
Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here... | Louis Wu | 4/15/12 9:43 a.m. |
Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here... | davidfuchs | 4/15/12 9:53 a.m. |
Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here... | SonGoharotto | 4/15/12 11:30 a.m. |
Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here... | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 4/15/12 12:13 p.m. |
Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here... | General Vagueness | 4/16/12 7:05 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Gravemind | 4/15/12 12:38 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Louis Wu | 4/15/12 12:48 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 1:04 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Leviathan | 4/15/12 1:47 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 2:16 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Leviathan | 4/15/12 2:27 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Hawaiian Pig | 4/15/12 2:28 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Hawaiian Pig | 4/15/12 2:31 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Leviathan | 4/15/12 2:35 p.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | Hawaiian Pig | 4/15/12 2:54 p.m. |
To clarify | Leviathan | 4/15/12 3:01 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | rhubarb | 4/15/12 3:07 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Schooly D | 4/15/12 3:40 p.m. |
The question everyone is dancing around | rhubarb | 4/15/12 3:48 p.m. |
This has nothing to do with CoD. | uberfoop | 4/15/12 4:41 p.m. |
Re: This has nothing to do with CoD. | rhubarb | 4/15/12 5:07 p.m. |
Re: This has nothing to do with CoD. | uberfoop | 4/15/12 5:47 p.m. |
Re: This has nothing to do with CoD. | rhubarb | 4/15/12 6:04 p.m. |
Re: The question everyone is dancing around | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 5:20 p.m. |
Re: The question everyone is dancing around | rhubarb | 4/15/12 5:56 p.m. |
Re: The question everyone is dancing around | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 6:13 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/15/12 4:01 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 5:14 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/15/12 10:10 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Cody Miller | 4/15/12 11:15 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/15/12 11:49 p.m. |
leviathan's opinion makes mine redundant *NM* | kidtsunami | 4/16/12 12:13 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | Cody Miller | 4/16/12 12:39 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/16/12 2:08 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | 343winks. | 4/16/12 6:04 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | Louis Wu | 4/16/12 8:28 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | Revenant1988 | 4/16/12 10:11 a.m. |
...........what is this | Hawaiian Pig | 4/16/12 12:33 p.m. |
Re: ...........what is this | Louis Wu | 4/16/12 12:53 p.m. |
Re: ...........what is this | Hawaiian Pig | 4/16/12 1:14 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Hawaiian Pig | 4/16/12 12:46 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/16/12 2:11 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Cody Miller | 4/16/12 2:13 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/16/12 2:30 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Cody Miller | 4/16/12 3:18 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/16/12 3:58 p.m. |
This conversation has gone in an awkward direction | uberfoop | 4/16/12 4:11 p.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | Leviathan | 4/16/12 4:32 p.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | Miguel Chavez | 4/16/12 4:35 p.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | Leviathan | 4/16/12 4:44 p.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 4/16/12 9:58 p.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | Hawaiian Pig | 4/16/12 5:36 p.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | 343winks. | 4/17/12 5:58 a.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | Leviathan | 4/17/12 2:02 p.m. |
Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc | Beckx | 4/17/12 2:22 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Louis Wu | 4/16/12 3:00 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Miguel Chavez | 4/16/12 3:28 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | 343winks. | 4/17/12 5:24 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | Louis Wu | 4/17/12 7:07 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | Cody Miller | 4/17/12 12:13 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | General Vagueness | 4/17/12 12:50 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Hawaiian Pig | 4/17/12 10:59 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | uberfoop | 4/18/12 12:08 a.m. |
Re: To clarify | Miguel Chavez | 4/17/12 1:21 p.m. |
GODWINNED *NM* | Cody Miller | 4/17/12 1:58 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Leviathan | 4/17/12 2:19 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Miguel Chavez | 4/17/12 3:51 p.m. |
That's a lousy safe-word, Mig. *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 4/17/12 4:56 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | Hawaiian Pig | 4/17/12 11:00 p.m. |
Re: To clarify | General Vagueness | 4/17/12 10:45 a.m. |
Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little. | uberfoop | 4/15/12 4:52 p.m. |
Change in Halo= Good | BWOLoneWolf | 4/16/12 7:17 a.m. |
Re: Change in Halo= Good | Metalingus627 | 4/16/12 10:48 a.m. |
Re: Change in Halo= Good | Metalingus627 | 4/16/12 10:48 a.m. |
Now here's what I'm wondering | SonGoharotto | 4/15/12 1:25 p.m. |
A tale of Spartan Points. | NsU Soldier | 4/15/12 5:44 p.m. |
The Spartan Phone is ringing! | SonGoharotto | 4/15/12 9:19 p.m. |
What if the Spartan phones... rang? *NM* | Louis Wu | 4/16/12 8:31 a.m. |
Re: A tale of Spartan Points. | General Vagueness | 4/16/12 2:40 a.m. |
Re: Change for change's sake. | uberfoop | 4/14/12 9:20 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | Kermit | 4/15/12 8:37 p.m. |
Re: Present thoughts about the future *long* | General Vagueness | 4/16/12 12:45 a.m. |
When threads get this long... | Tiny | 4/16/12 4:08 p.m. |
Re: When threads get this long... | uberfoop | 4/16/12 4:13 p.m. |
Re: When threads get this long... | Schooly D | 4/16/12 4:26 p.m. |
Re: When threads get this long... | Miguel Chavez | 4/16/12 4:34 p.m. |
This. | Urban Reflex | 4/16/12 4:53 p.m. |
Re: This. | Quirel | 4/16/12 6:06 p.m. |
Re: When threads get this long... | Tiny | 4/16/12 10:36 p.m. |
This thread is too long. Here, I'll make it longer | RC Master | 4/16/12 6:51 p.m. |
Re: This thread is too long. Here, I'll make it lo | Miguel Chavez | 4/16/12 7:22 p.m. |
Coke tastes better from a can. | Vandle Valsher | 4/16/12 7:57 p.m. |
Re: Coke tastes better from a can. | Miguel Chavez | 4/16/12 8:40 p.m. |
Re: Coke tastes better from a can. | Metalingus627 | 4/16/12 10:12 p.m. |
Re: Coke tastes better from a can. | Gravemind | 4/16/12 11:28 p.m. |