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Exquisitely well put, Hedge.
Posted By: The Lionheart <angeliclionheart@hotmail.com>Date: 4/12/12 12:23 a.m.

In Response To: Present thoughts about the future *long* (Hedgemony)


Hedgemony, sometimes you've got a tongue of gold. :)

I admire your ability to be concise.

I for one am elated with what I've learned about Halo 4, but I have to say that I went from "cautiously optimistic AND pessimistic at the same time" to "not only feeling safe about Halo's future but feeling even MORE excited for it than I was before" just because I got to meet and talk with some of the folks that are making it or guiding it at HaloFest.

Seeing 343 in person and being able to read people like I do helped me to come to perceive in them the future of Halo if they had their way, and it made me very excited. I wanted to just jump right in with them, if they'd have me. Everything that has come out since has confirmed those initial feelings I got at HaloFest. :)

But, alas, 343 is a studio of veterans, and I'm still learning a lot about game design/mission design/narrative design, so I'm working on Venerance to get better at that (hopefully they'll have a Halo 4 SDK for PC at some point, too). Speaking of which, have you seen what we're up to over at venerance.net? Here's a link to a post I just recently made: [Venerance] 3 VIDS uploaded and ready! *IMG*

That post in particular is directly tied to what you said about Vanquish in your post: whenever I've seen things in games that I like, I approach it from almost a Borg-like angle... whenever I see someone do something in a game better than everyone else has done it, I immediately want to see that in every game from that point on and am disappointed if I don't see it. Venerance is trying to synthesize all relevant strengths from many other games into an extended Halo universe experience. So we take what already exists and tweak it to improve it to the levels of the best examples, or we see if we can add it if it's new to the platform we're using.

I'm really, really excited about Halo's future and I wish that people would look at Halo things the way that I do: Whatever you've already experienced, you have those memories and experiences and no one can take them from you. All you stand to do is gain, so when you consider your response to things that you only see glimpses of, who cares whether what you're about to gain will be your favorite entry in the series, or your least favorite, or somewhere in-between? You still stand to gain either way.

It's the same argument I encountered with Syndicate.

"Hey, here's this great new FPS! Best shotgun ever!"

"Meh. Syndicate is a top-down game, period. I refuse to play anything that doesn't align with my conceptions of what a Syndicate game ought to be."

"...why? WHY would you do that? Where is the gain in that?"

"AWAY WITH YOU, SENSE-MAKER! LEAVE ME TO ROT IN MY OWN BLOATED SENSE OF SELF-IMPORTANCE!"

*shakes head and leaves*

My only concern now is the "reputation" of HBO's main forum. Here's hoping that, sooner rather than later, but at LEAST once everyone has played Halo 4, that this forum returns to what I'm sure Claude, Grim, and many others want for it to be. The idea of the powers that be could be passing over us because we're drowned out by negativity that's not even our own and with which we disagree, upsets me. I don't want to be passed over by them. And from what I know of them, they don't want to pass over folks like you and me either.

Here's to the future of Halo, whatever it is. :)


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Present thoughts about the future *long*Hedgemony 4/11/12 9:44 p.m.
     I'm Grim, & this is my favorite post on the forum *NM*GrimBrother One 4/11/12 9:50 p.m.
     Hear hear! *NM*Das Kalk 4/11/12 9:53 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 4/11/12 10:16 p.m.
     Brilliantly well put, mirrors my own thoughts. *NM*Tiny 4/11/12 10:19 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*stabbim 4/11/12 10:23 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*bluerunner 4/11/12 10:26 p.m.
     well put *NM*kidtsunami 4/11/12 10:29 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*KP 4/11/12 10:31 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*tucsonbatman 4/11/12 10:57 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*DEEP NNN 4/12/12 6:37 a.m.
           Just you wait. You're next! :p *NM*rhubarb 4/12/12 10:57 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*breitzen 4/11/12 10:41 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Frankie 4/12/12 12:21 a.m.
                 Frankie's mental image of HBO until releaseThe Lionheart 4/12/12 12:36 a.m.
                 You dun good kid, great post. *NM*Pebbles 4/12/12 12:55 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Frankie 4/12/12 12:26 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Quirel 4/12/12 12:46 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Das Kalk 4/12/12 10:52 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Metalingus627 4/12/12 5:00 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*kanbo 4/11/12 10:52 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Vic DeLeon 4/11/12 10:56 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Der Flatulator 4/16/12 9:44 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Der Flatulator 4/16/12 9:49 a.m.
                       Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*RC Master 4/16/12 10:58 a.m.
     We have seen the angst before.Captain Spark 4/11/12 11:00 p.m.
     AgreedAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/11/12 11:04 p.m.
     Sing it! Truth. *NM*yakaman 4/11/12 11:11 p.m.
     Well put, indeed. *NM*Leviathan 4/11/12 11:22 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*uberfoop 4/11/12 11:35 p.m.
           Re: Change is gouda. *NM*Hedgemony 4/11/12 11:37 p.m.
                 Halo 4 LE = Wheel of smoked gouda? *NM*uberfoop 4/12/12 12:09 a.m.
     Thank you again...GrimBrother One 4/11/12 11:49 p.m.
           Re: Thank you again...Tiny 4/12/12 7:53 a.m.
     Why Halo 4 will be a very bad game *Long, IMGs*Schooly D 4/12/12 12:07 a.m.
     Exquisitely well put, Hedge.The Lionheart 4/12/12 12:23 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Morhek 4/12/12 12:36 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*stabbim 4/12/12 12:48 a.m.
                 Can a hipster hate hating? Is that possible? *NM*The Lionheart 4/12/12 12:56 a.m.
                       I for one, can't wait for E3Pebbles 4/12/12 1:01 a.m.
                       Love is the new hate. *NM*Kalamari 4/12/12 1:25 a.m.
     Oh Yeah?Bones 4/12/12 1:21 a.m.
           Hedgemony: Voice of Reason and Love *NM*thebruce0 4/12/12 1:44 a.m.
     I'm finding it harder to express my thoughts...Phoenix_9286 4/12/12 2:16 a.m.
           Re: I'm finding it harder to express my thoughts..NsU Soldier 4/12/12 5:24 a.m.
     Josh Holmes took notice of this on twitter. *NM*Bryan Newman 4/12/12 2:17 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*BlueNinja 4/12/12 5:36 a.m.
           Of course you still have a place here.The Lionheart 4/12/12 11:45 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*General Vagueness 4/16/12 6:54 p.m.
     I don't have favorites, but you're my favorite. *NM*Louis Wu 4/12/12 6:44 a.m.
     Nicely put :) *NM*Ciarán 4/12/12 6:48 a.m.
     Well said. *NM*Beckx 4/12/12 7:23 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*DEEP NNN 4/12/12 7:37 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*SonofMacPhisto 4/12/12 8:38 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*CaneCutter 4/12/12 8:06 a.m.
     Completely Agree (Glad Someone Said It!)ChrisTheeCrappy 4/12/12 8:57 a.m.
           Re: Completely Agree (Glad Someone Said It!)JDQuackers 4/12/12 12:18 p.m.
     i agreeiForge 4/12/12 10:37 a.m.
     Finally!Der Flatulator 4/12/12 10:45 a.m.
           Re: Finally!Der Flatulator 4/12/12 10:54 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Tawpgun 4/12/12 10:58 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Postmortem 4/12/12 10:58 a.m.
     Hedge is a HammerImpervium 4/12/12 11:08 a.m.
     Well met, sir.dogsounds 4/12/12 12:08 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*padraig08 4/12/12 12:10 p.m.
     Best thing I've read on the net in a long while!LostSpartan987 4/12/12 12:36 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Cody Miller 4/12/12 3:23 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*DEEP NNN 4/12/12 4:03 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Hawaiian Pig 4/12/12 11:30 p.m.
           your thoughts on "social"kidtsunami 4/13/12 2:26 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*MacGyver10 4/12/12 3:31 p.m.
     You made my day, HedgeCortanaVII 4/12/12 4:36 p.m.
     Amen. *NM*Lawnmower172 4/12/12 5:16 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*GreyThor 4/12/12 8:51 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Quantum 4/12/12 11:04 p.m.
     My thoughts on this situation.Gravemind 4/13/12 6:31 p.m.
           Re: My thoughts on this situation.Gravemind 4/13/12 6:39 p.m.
           Re: My thoughts on this situation.343winks. 4/14/12 12:19 p.m.
     Like you've spoken for me. *Sorta Long*DrDoctor 4/13/12 11:29 p.m.
     Change *slightly-long*Der Flatulator 4/14/12 8:50 a.m.
           Re: Change *slightly-long*DEEP NNN 4/14/12 9:03 a.m.
           It isn't all good.rhubarb 4/14/12 10:40 a.m.
                 Re: It isn't all good.serpx 4/14/12 2:45 p.m.
                       Re: It isn't all good.rhubarb 4/14/12 3:29 p.m.
           Change for change's sake.Gravemind 4/14/12 7:11 p.m.
                 Re: Change for change's sake.Harmanimus 4/14/12 7:59 p.m.
                       Re: Change for change's sake.Gravemind 4/14/12 8:32 p.m.
                             Re: Change for change's sake.Cody Miller 4/14/12 10:07 p.m.
                                   Re: Change for change's sake.Leviathan 4/14/12 10:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.Cody Miller 4/15/12 12:20 a.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.SonofMacPhisto 4/15/12 9:04 a.m.
                                               Re: Change for change's sake.Leviathan 4/15/12 1:36 p.m.
                                                     Re: Change for change's sake.Cody Miller 4/15/12 2:18 p.m.
                                                           Re: Change for change's sake.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:29 p.m.
                                                           Re: Change for change's sake.Leviathan 4/15/12 2:33 p.m.
                                                                 To HP and Levirhubarb 4/15/12 3:01 p.m.
                                                                       Not at allLeviathan 4/15/12 3:15 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Not at allrhubarb 4/15/12 3:27 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Not at allLeviathan 4/15/12 3:47 p.m.
                                                                                         Warning: Unintended rantMetalingus627 4/15/12 5:13 p.m.
                                                                                               Alienation is unavoidablerhubarb 4/15/12 5:31 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Alienation is unavoidableMetalingus627 4/15/12 5:47 p.m.
                                                                                                           Because A sucks and B is an egg, obviously.rhubarb 4/15/12 6:31 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Because A sucks and B is an egg, obviously.Metalingus627 4/15/12 7:04 p.m.
                                                                                                                       My point is...rhubarb 4/15/12 7:55 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 8:24 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...rhubarb 4/15/12 8:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...Cody Miller 4/15/12 9:04 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 9:55 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/15/12 10:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/15/12 10:26 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 11:01 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 6:46 a.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: My point is...RC Master 4/16/12 11:12 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 11:52 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: to add to thisRevenant1988 4/16/12 12:25 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgRC Master 4/16/12 6:23 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgRevenant1988 4/16/12 7:39 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgthebruce0 4/17/12 11:18 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgRC Master 4/17/12 9:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...RC Master 4/16/12 6:09 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 7:21 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/16/12 7:54 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 8:01 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/16/12 8:06 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...General Vagueness 4/16/12 10:43 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 7:54 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: My point is...General Vagueness 4/17/12 10:51 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 11:02 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...General Vagueness 4/17/12 12:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 1:32 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...RC Master 4/17/12 8:33 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 10:43 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...Metalingus627 4/16/12 2:52 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/16/12 3:08 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...Metalingus627 4/16/12 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...Gravemind 4/16/12 3:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...Quirel 4/16/12 6:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Change for change's sake.SonGoharotto 4/14/12 11:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 12:53 a.m.
                                               I have my moments *NM*SonGoharotto 4/15/12 8:08 a.m.
                                   Re: Change for change's sake.343winks. 4/15/12 3:55 a.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.RC Master 4/15/12 10:32 a.m.
                                               Re: Change for change's sake.Hedgemony 4/15/12 12:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: Change for change's sake.343winks. 4/16/12 4:50 a.m.
                                               Re: Change for change's sake.343winks. 4/16/12 4:45 a.m.
                             I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Louis Wu 4/15/12 8:31 a.m.
                                   Just playing Devil's advocate here...SonGoharotto 4/15/12 9:23 a.m.
                                         Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...Louis Wu 4/15/12 9:43 a.m.
                                               Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...davidfuchs 4/15/12 9:53 a.m.
                                               Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...SonGoharotto 4/15/12 11:30 a.m.
                                                     Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/15/12 12:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...General Vagueness 4/16/12 7:05 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Gravemind 4/15/12 12:38 p.m.
                                         Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Louis Wu 4/15/12 12:48 p.m.
                                               Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Cody Miller 4/15/12 1:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Leviathan 4/15/12 1:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Cody Miller 4/15/12 2:16 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Leviathan 4/15/12 2:27 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:28 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:31 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Leviathan 4/15/12 2:35 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:54 p.m.
                                                                                   To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 3:01 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: To clarifyrhubarb 4/15/12 3:07 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: To clarifySchooly D 4/15/12 3:40 p.m.
                                                                                               The question everyone is dancing aroundrhubarb 4/15/12 3:48 p.m.
                                                                                                     This has nothing to do with CoD.uberfoop 4/15/12 4:41 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: This has nothing to do with CoD.rhubarb 4/15/12 5:07 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: This has nothing to do with CoD.uberfoop 4/15/12 5:47 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: This has nothing to do with CoD.rhubarb 4/15/12 6:04 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The question everyone is dancing aroundCody Miller 4/15/12 5:20 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The question everyone is dancing aroundrhubarb 4/15/12 5:56 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The question everyone is dancing aroundCody Miller 4/15/12 6:13 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 4:01 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/15/12 5:14 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 10:10 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/15/12 11:15 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 11:49 p.m.
                                                                                                                 leviathan's opinion makes mine redundant *NM*kidtsunami 4/16/12 12:13 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/16/12 12:39 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 2:08 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarify343winks. 4/16/12 6:04 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: To clarifyLouis Wu 4/16/12 8:28 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarifyRevenant1988 4/16/12 10:11 a.m.
                                                                                                                             ...........what is thisHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 12:33 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: ...........what is thisLouis Wu 4/16/12 12:53 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: ...........what is thisHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 1:14 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarifyHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 12:46 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 2:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/16/12 2:13 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 2:30 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/16/12 3:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 3:58 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     This conversation has gone in an awkward directionuberfoop 4/16/12 4:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcLeviathan 4/16/12 4:32 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcMiguel Chavez 4/16/12 4:35 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcLeviathan 4/16/12 4:44 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcStephen L. (SoundEffect) 4/16/12 9:58 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 5:36 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc343winks. 4/17/12 5:58 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcLeviathan 4/17/12 2:02 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcBeckx 4/17/12 2:22 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: To clarifyLouis Wu 4/16/12 3:00 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: To clarifyMiguel Chavez 4/16/12 3:28 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: To clarify343winks. 4/17/12 5:24 a.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLouis Wu 4/17/12 7:07 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/17/12 12:13 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyGeneral Vagueness 4/17/12 12:50 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyHawaiian Pig 4/17/12 10:59 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: To clarifyuberfoop 4/18/12 12:08 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyMiguel Chavez 4/17/12 1:21 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 GODWINNED *NM*Cody Miller 4/17/12 1:58 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/17/12 2:19 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyMiguel Chavez 4/17/12 3:51 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       That's a lousy safe-word, Mig. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/17/12 4:56 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyHawaiian Pig 4/17/12 11:00 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: To clarifyGeneral Vagueness 4/17/12 10:45 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.uberfoop 4/15/12 4:52 p.m.
                                               Change in Halo= GoodBWOLoneWolf 4/16/12 7:17 a.m.
                                                     Re: Change in Halo= GoodMetalingus627 4/16/12 10:48 a.m.
                                                           Re: Change in Halo= GoodMetalingus627 4/16/12 10:48 a.m.
                                         Now here's what I'm wonderingSonGoharotto 4/15/12 1:25 p.m.
                                               A tale of Spartan Points.NsU Soldier 4/15/12 5:44 p.m.
                                                     The Spartan Phone is ringing!SonGoharotto 4/15/12 9:19 p.m.
                                                           What if the Spartan phones... rang? *NM*Louis Wu 4/16/12 8:31 a.m.
                                                     Re: A tale of Spartan Points.General Vagueness 4/16/12 2:40 a.m.
                       Re: Change for change's sake.uberfoop 4/14/12 9:20 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Kermit 4/15/12 8:37 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*General Vagueness 4/16/12 12:45 a.m.
     When threads get this long...Tiny 4/16/12 4:08 p.m.
           Re: When threads get this long...uberfoop 4/16/12 4:13 p.m.
           Re: When threads get this long...Schooly D 4/16/12 4:26 p.m.
           Re: When threads get this long...Miguel Chavez 4/16/12 4:34 p.m.
                 This.Urban Reflex 4/16/12 4:53 p.m.
                       Re: This.Quirel 4/16/12 6:06 p.m.
                 Re: When threads get this long...Tiny 4/16/12 10:36 p.m.
           This thread is too long. Here, I'll make it longerRC Master 4/16/12 6:51 p.m.
                 Re: This thread is too long. Here, I'll make it loMiguel Chavez 4/16/12 7:22 p.m.
           Coke tastes better from a can.Vandle Valsher 4/16/12 7:57 p.m.
                 Re: Coke tastes better from a can.Miguel Chavez 4/16/12 8:40 p.m.
                       Re: Coke tastes better from a can.Metalingus627 4/16/12 10:12 p.m.
                             Re: Coke tastes better from a can.Gravemind 4/16/12 11:28 p.m.



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