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Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...
Posted By: uberfoop <atkinso2@seattleu.edu>Date: 3/26/12 12:11 a.m.

In Response To: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad... (Bryan Newman)


Reach's relatively low shooting skill ceiling means that it's really difficult for individual moments of play to look all that interesting, except when absolutely bizarre stuff happens. In a game where even crappy players like myself can optimize kill times on precision weapons a rather high portion of the time (and hence MLG gunplay looks a lot like the good gunplay of normal players but merely with much better consistency), and where much of the rest of the skill comes down to movement tactics, there's really not that much visible on the screen and that can be presented in a very immediately compelling way most of the time.
It's not like Brood War where there's always a lot of immediately-visible crazyawesomeness to look at when all you're seeing is a couple of siege tanks and marines being micro'd against some zerglings. Or an fps like Tribes where the movement itself has a lot of execution associated with it (and where everything is moving at like 6000mph anyway).

Also, much of Reach's high-quality competitive maps are made in Forge. And Forge is a piece of crap* which makes it almost impossible to simultaneously design for competitive gameplay, functional efficiency, and aesthetics. Usually that last one gets ignored a bit. The end result is that Reach's competitive scene's aesthetics are a joke.

*Don't get me wrong, it's impressive enough for an object placer editor, even if there are areas that it could be easily improved. But "impressive for an object placer editor" is sort of like "pretty easy to use considering it's a car with no battery and flat tires."


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I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Bryan Newman 3/25/12 1:27 p.m.
     Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Cody Miller 3/25/12 2:09 p.m.
           Not the point at all... I miss the old days. *NM*Bryan Newman 3/25/12 2:15 p.m.
                 To quote:NartFOpc 3/25/12 2:18 p.m.
                       Rhetorical question...H3 nostalgia taking over. *NM*Bryan Newman 3/25/12 2:39 p.m.
                             I'm not sure you know what rhetorical means. *NM*Beckx 3/25/12 5:29 p.m.
                                   I'm not sure you are following the conversationbryan newman 3/25/12 6:24 p.m.
                                         Re: Inconceivable! *NM*Beckx 3/25/12 6:35 p.m.
                                               nice princess bride quote :)bryan newman 3/25/12 6:54 p.m.
           Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...DEEP NNN 3/25/12 4:32 p.m.
                 Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...kanbo 3/25/12 6:00 p.m.
                 Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...davidfuchs 3/25/12 10:12 p.m.
     Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Phoenix_9286 3/25/12 2:37 p.m.
           Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Frankie 3/26/12 4:19 p.m.
                 Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Cody Miller 3/26/12 5:29 p.m.
     I think this is a good trendhunt3r 3/25/12 2:40 p.m.
           I 100% agree. *NM*Seraph XXVII 3/25/12 2:51 p.m.
           Then play action sack. *NM*Bryan Newman 3/25/12 3:24 p.m.
           Agreed.Quirel 3/25/12 8:00 p.m.
                 I think you bought the wrong gameAvateur 3/25/12 11:32 p.m.
           Re: I think this is a good trendkidtsunami 3/25/12 11:34 p.m.
     Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad... *VID*MoltenSlowa 3/25/12 3:18 p.m.
     And herein lies MLG's downfall....RC Master 3/25/12 3:54 p.m.
           Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Hawaiian Pig 3/25/12 4:30 p.m.
                 Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....RC Master 3/25/12 5:21 p.m.
                       Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Schooly D 3/25/12 5:53 p.m.
                             Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....RC Master 3/25/12 6:24 p.m.
                             Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Phoenix_9286 3/25/12 7:22 p.m.
                                   Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Schooly D 3/25/12 8:23 p.m.
                                         ^^ I'm Avateur, and I approve this message ^^ *NM*Avateur 3/25/12 9:09 p.m.
                                         Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Mid7night 3/25/12 10:11 p.m.
                                               Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....NartFOpc 3/25/12 10:25 p.m.
                                               Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Schooly D 3/25/12 10:31 p.m.
                                                     Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....ZackDark 3/25/12 10:33 p.m.
                       Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....DEEP NNN 3/25/12 6:30 p.m.
                 Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Schooly D 3/25/12 6:31 p.m.
                       Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Hawaiian Pig 3/25/12 10:35 p.m.
                             Re: And herein lies MLG's downfall....Schooly D 3/25/12 10:49 p.m.
     Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Hawaiian Pig 3/25/12 3:56 p.m.
     Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...SonofMacPhisto 3/25/12 5:30 p.m.
           Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...bryan newman 3/25/12 6:33 p.m.
                 Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Warren Peace 3/25/12 6:47 p.m.
                       Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Kalamari 3/25/12 6:56 p.m.
                       Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...bryan newman 3/25/12 6:58 p.m.
                             Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...Avateur 3/26/12 12:26 a.m.
                 Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...SonofMacPhisto 3/25/12 7:11 p.m.
     Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...SIX min WHISTLE 3/25/12 8:01 p.m.
     Re: I'm at MLG Columbus and very sad...uberfoop 3/26/12 12:11 a.m.



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