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Re: Clarification, please?
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>Date: 3/3/12 11:57 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Clarification, please? (Schooly D)


: Say, for example, you've encountered someone at close/medium-close range.
: You've shot them a couple of times because you're a better shot, you got
: the jump on them, or both.

: Without bleedthrough, that person can run up to you and mash B twice to kill
: you. As long as they get the first melee hit you're dead, because you
: haven't taken down their shields yet, and anything you do won't kill him
: before he kills you. If you melee while he still has even a little shield
: left, he kills you because you only do enough damage to take down the
: shield and he's already ahead in the melee race. If you keep shooting, he
: kills you because your shots won't kill quick enough.

: With bleedthrough, if the guy tries to save himself by mashing B in your
: direction, you win because you've taken down his shields enough with your
: shots to kill him with 1 melee (thanks to bleedthrough).

: So, bleedthrough doesn't make melees weaker per se. In fact, it can only make
: them stronger since they can do shield+health damage now. But it decreases
: the effectiveness of the "I'm losing so I'm going to charge forward
: and mash B" strategy.

Weren't you one of the people bemoaning the return of "3 shots + melee = kill"? I'm not sure it was that bad but I remember people complaining about it and there were valid complaints. Either way, that's why you keep your distance.

You cannot fall off the floor.


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           Re: EVERYONE WINS TWICE!DEEP NNN 3/1/12 12:19 p.m.
           Re: EVERYONE WINS TWICE!Schooly D 3/1/12 12:24 p.m.
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                       Re: EVERYONE WINS TWICE!Schooly D 3/1/12 3:06 p.m.
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                 Clarification, please?BoneKin 3/1/12 1:51 p.m.
                       Re: Clarification, please?Schooly D 3/1/12 2:04 p.m.
                             Re: The point where I stopped caring.Beckx 3/1/12 2:24 p.m.
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                                   lack of focus...BoneKin 3/1/12 2:46 p.m.
                                         Re: lack of focus...CaneCutter 3/1/12 2:51 p.m.
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                             Re: Clarification, please?DEEP NNN 3/1/12 3:27 p.m.
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                             Re: Clarification, please?General Vagueness 3/3/12 11:57 a.m.
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                 damn I'm excepted from having an opinionkidtsunami 3/1/12 7:40 p.m.
                       Re: damn I'm excepted from having an opinionSchooly D 3/1/12 8:31 p.m.
                             hehekidtsunami 3/1/12 11:13 p.m.
                                   meant in jestkidtsunami 3/2/12 1:50 a.m.
           Re: EVERYONE WINS TWICE!LostSpartan987 3/1/12 12:29 p.m.
     Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!ChrisTheeCrappy 3/1/12 12:13 p.m.
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           BTB Heavies? Yes pls... *NM*Apirishin 3/1/12 12:24 p.m.
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     Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!ZackDark 3/1/12 12:27 p.m.
           Speaking of which, when does X12 end? *NM*ZackDark 3/1/12 12:48 p.m.
     DISREGARD TU CRAP, ACQUIRE BTB HEAVIES.Revenant1988 3/1/12 12:32 p.m.
           What?! How did I miss this?!LostSpartan987 3/1/12 12:34 p.m.
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           Re: DISREGARD TU CRAP, ACQUIRE BTB HEAVIES.Pkmnrulz240 3/1/12 1:33 p.m.
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                       Re: bad pokemon!Pkmnrulz240 3/1/12 1:36 p.m.
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           And do we get new forge maps for this? Nope. *NM*Mirel 3/2/12 6:55 a.m.
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           Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!Kalamari 3/1/12 1:25 p.m.
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     Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!CaneCutter 3/1/12 1:34 p.m.
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                       Re: TU questions, and my thoughts.FyreWulff 3/1/12 4:06 p.m.
     Bleedthrough gone. :DOverdoziz 3/1/12 1:48 p.m.
     343 steps it up.Spec ops Grunt 3/1/12 1:52 p.m.
     Squad Slayer removed. :(Overdoziz 3/1/12 1:52 p.m.
           Re: Squad Slayer removed. :(Gravemind 3/1/12 2:02 p.m.
     Score one for the Anti-TU Team.Gravemind 3/1/12 1:57 p.m.
     Cool, next question...RC Master 3/1/12 2:13 p.m.
     People are mad jelly, bro.UnrealCh13f 3/1/12 2:37 p.m.
           Re: People are mad jelly, bro.serpx 3/1/12 2:44 p.m.
           Damned if they do, Damned if they don't.LostSpartan987 3/1/12 2:49 p.m.
     Meh.Phoenix_9286 3/1/12 2:48 p.m.
           Re: Meh.Hyokin 3/1/12 4:28 p.m.
           Ian, they just did...SEspider 3/2/12 12:05 a.m.
                 Re: Ian, they just did...Overdoziz 3/2/12 7:20 a.m.
                       Re: Ian, they just did...DEEP NNN 3/2/12 8:34 a.m.
                             Re: Ian, they just did...Overdoziz 3/2/12 8:59 a.m.
     Wake me...Vandle Valsher 3/1/12 2:49 p.m.
           lol *NM*Louis Wu 3/1/12 3:02 p.m.
           There might have been info on H4 there...ZackDark 3/1/12 3:05 p.m.
                 Re: There might have been info on H4 there...Vandle Valsher 3/1/12 3:33 p.m.
     With bleedthrough gone...Overdoziz 3/1/12 3:22 p.m.
           Re: With bleedthrough gone...DEEP NNN 3/1/12 3:42 p.m.
                 Re: With bleedthrough gone...Overdoziz 3/1/12 3:58 p.m.
                       Re: With bleedthrough gone...DEEP NNN 3/1/12 4:22 p.m.
                             Re: With bleedthrough gone...Overdoziz 3/1/12 4:50 p.m.
                                   Re: With bleedthrough gone...Hyokin 3/1/12 5:24 p.m.
                                         Re: With bleedthrough gone...uberfoop 3/1/12 5:38 p.m.
                                         Re: With bleedthrough gone...Overdoziz 3/1/12 6:11 p.m.
                                   Re: With bleedthrough gone...ZaneZavin 3/1/12 8:16 p.m.
     Bring back Flagstravaganza *NM*NartFOpc 3/1/12 3:25 p.m.
           BEST PLAYLIST EVER *NM*kidtsunami 3/1/12 7:51 p.m.
     Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!Hedgemony 3/1/12 6:23 p.m.
           Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!SEspider 3/2/12 12:11 a.m.
                 Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!Hedgemony 3/2/12 12:31 a.m.
                       Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!Hyokin 3/2/12 12:43 a.m.
                       Would definitely go for more invasion mapskidtsunami 3/2/12 1:46 a.m.
                             Re: Would definitely go for more invasion mapsRC Master 3/2/12 8:07 a.m.
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                 Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!Overdoziz 3/2/12 7:18 a.m.
                       Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!DEEP NNN 3/2/12 8:15 a.m.
                             Re: Halo Bulletin: TU vote = everyone wins!Overdoziz 3/2/12 8:28 a.m.



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