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| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | |
| Posted By: Gravemind <kuukan_no_kage@yahoo.com> | Date: 2/29/12 6:21 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game (Schooly D) : It's entirely possible to have a game in which weapon management and map : control are important while still making the primary weapons of the game : behave in a deterministic manner. See also: Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3. : I refuse to subscribe to your notion that by NOT making DMR shots fly in
How many times do I have to say it? The DMR in vanilla Reach is deterministic if you PACE. YOUR. FREAKING. SHOTS! Is that so hard to understand? It's not supposed to be deterministic if you're hammering the goddamn trigger. Bungie explained this before the beta came out. That the DMR wasn't perfectly accurate at its max ROF was a deliberate design choice whose purpose is to force it into a predominately mid-range role instead of being a weapon that trumps all other small arms at all ranges. I'd also like to point out that the minimum shot spread on the DMR (about 0.05°) is much tighter than that of the M6D (0.2°) or the BR (0.3°), plus the BR's burst fire "splintered" with any lateral movement. So if anything, the DMR is, when pacing your shots, more deterministic than either of those guns. That pacing, however, was part of a deliberate balancing act on Bungie's part. Players must sacrifice rate of fire for determinism/accuracy. If they want to reduce bloom, they must crouch, which comes at the cost of mobility. And that's what I love about the DMR: near-perfect accuracy when pacing your shots, but lousy accuracy when spamming to keep it from always trouncing automatics as closer ranges. Bungie was on to something great when they were designing Reach's weapon sandbox. It wasn't perfect, but it was the best they ever did. But 343i was like "Screw that! 'One Gun to Rule Them All' was a great idea." *headdesk* : What is wrong with you people. So, apparently wanting balanced gameplay is a dysfunction now.
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| 343i has killed my interest in Reach MM. | Gravemind | 2/28/12 7:35 p.m. |
| Opinions are fun. | bryan newman | 2/28/12 7:49 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | FyreWulff | 2/28/12 7:52 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | bryan newman | 2/28/12 7:55 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | kidtsunami | 2/28/12 8:03 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | bryan newman | 2/28/12 8:07 p.m. |
| yeah, he shouldn't either | kidtsunami | 2/28/12 8:12 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | Avateur | 2/28/12 8:14 p.m. |
| Different strokes I suppose, right? *NM* | bryan newman | 2/28/12 8:16 p.m. |
| Exactly | Avateur | 2/28/12 8:19 p.m. |
| Re: Exactly | Hoovaloov | 2/28/12 9:25 p.m. |
| Re: Exactly | Overdoziz | 2/28/12 9:27 p.m. |
| Re: Exactly | Avateur | 2/28/12 9:56 p.m. |
| Re: Exactly | DEEP NNN | 2/28/12 10:18 p.m. |
| Re: Exactly | Hoovaloov | 2/28/12 10:34 p.m. |
| Also | FyreWulff | 2/28/12 10:00 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | Avateur | 2/28/12 8:10 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | Hoovaloov | 2/28/12 8:37 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | FyreWulff | 2/28/12 8:40 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | Hoovaloov | 2/28/12 8:50 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | FyreWulff | 2/28/12 9:34 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | Hoovaloov | 2/28/12 10:07 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | FyreWulff | 2/28/12 10:45 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | Hoovaloov | 2/28/12 10:54 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | RC Master | 2/29/12 11:05 a.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | Hoovaloov | 2/29/12 4:16 p.m. |
| Minor Correction | Hoovaloov | 2/29/12 4:27 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | RC Master | 3/1/12 7:22 a.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | yakaman | 3/1/12 1:08 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | DEEP NNN | 2/28/12 10:15 p.m. |
| Re: Opinions are fun. | FyreWulff | 2/29/12 12:12 a.m. |
| TU is sweet. | Overdoziz | 2/28/12 8:30 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | 7he grunt w/a plasma pistol | 2/28/12 8:35 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | bryan newman | 2/28/12 8:36 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Overdoziz | 2/28/12 8:38 p.m. |
| Fixed: TU is sheet. | Hyokin | 2/28/12 9:05 p.m. |
| No more blanket statements please. *NM* | Kalamari | 2/28/12 9:16 p.m. |
| But I'm cold :( *NM* | kornman00 | 2/28/12 9:44 p.m. |
| Re: Fixed: TU is sheet. | Overdoziz | 2/28/12 9:19 p.m. |
| Re: Fixed: TU is sheet. | Hyokin | 2/28/12 9:38 p.m. |
| Re: Fixed: TU is sheet. | Overdoziz | 2/28/12 9:43 p.m. |
| Re: Fixed: TU is sheet. | Avateur | 2/28/12 9:58 p.m. |
| That's no irony! *NM* | uberfoop | 2/28/12 10:03 p.m. |
| You're right :( *NM* | Avateur | 2/28/12 10:06 p.m. |
| I think the irony was the part made of iron. *NM* | Hyokin | 2/28/12 10:10 p.m. |
| It's a space station! *NM* | SonofMacPhisto | 2/28/12 10:11 p.m. |
| Damn! Beaten to the punch! | LostSpartan987 | 2/29/12 8:29 a.m. |
| It all makes sense now. *NM* | Overdoziz | 2/29/12 9:08 a.m. |
| Re: Fixed: TU is sheet. | Gravemind | 2/29/12 12:55 p.m. |
| Re: Fixed: TU is sheet. | Overdoziz | 2/29/12 1:12 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | RC Master | 2/29/12 11:09 a.m. |
| Exactly! *NM* | Hyokin | 2/29/12 11:11 a.m. |
| Turnabout is fair play. *NM* | Azo 'Galvat | 2/29/12 1:15 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Overdoziz | 2/29/12 1:34 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Hyokin | 2/29/12 1:37 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Overdoziz | 2/29/12 1:53 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | RC Master | 3/1/12 6:24 a.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Gravemind | 2/29/12 1:59 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Schooly D | 2/29/12 2:24 p.m. |
| Re: Tonight, in Night Springs. *NM* | Beckx | 2/29/12 2:34 p.m. |
| yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | kidtsunami | 2/29/12 3:31 p.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | Schooly D | 2/29/12 3:44 p.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | Overdoziz | 2/29/12 4:20 p.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | kidtsunami | 2/29/12 5:01 p.m. |
| I'm also waiting on the | kidtsunami | 2/29/12 5:20 p.m. |
| Re: I'm also waiting on the | Avateur | 2/29/12 9:14 p.m. |
| Re: I'm also waiting on the | Avateur | 2/29/12 9:16 p.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | Gravemind | 2/29/12 6:21 p.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | uberfoop | 2/29/12 7:15 p.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | Gravemind | 3/1/12 1:53 a.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | uberfoop | 3/1/12 3:16 a.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | Schooly D | 3/1/12 2:01 a.m. |
| Re: yeah because sorry, a one weapon game | Gravemind | 3/1/12 3:29 a.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Overdoziz | 2/29/12 4:26 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Gravemind | 2/29/12 6:00 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | kidtsunami | 2/29/12 6:44 p.m. |
| Re: TU is sweet. | Overdoziz | 2/29/12 6:55 p.m. |
| Jason... hugs... NOW. *NM* | Hyokin | 3/1/12 12:53 a.m. |
| Is it a b-day hug? *NM* | Gravemind | 3/1/12 1:56 a.m. |
| I guess... :p *NM* | Hyokin | 3/1/12 11:12 a.m. |
| Re: 343i has killed my interest in Reach MM. | SEspider | 2/28/12 10:18 p.m. |
| Re: 343i has killed my interest in Reach MM. | dogcom | 3/3/12 11:52 a.m. |
| Re: 343i has killed my interest in Reach MM. | Grizzlei | 3/3/12 1:41 p.m. |
| This made me cry a little. :( *NM* | Pkmnrulz240 | 3/3/12 2:08 p.m. |
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