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Re: Theoretical Telepathy
Posted By: uberfoop <atkinso2@seattleu.edu>	Date: 2/21/12 6:40 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Theoretical Telepathy (Hoovaloov) : There are circumstances where it is beneficial to help others, in order to : better help myself (group fighting a bear). But once those circumstances : are gone (bear is dead), the current circumstance goes back to people : doing everything they can to get ahead, even at the expense of other : people. Not if it weakens the group. Even if it only creates disunity rather than direct physical weakening, this can weaken a group. : If morals are the result of evolution, then morals themselves evolve. So who : is to say that slavery in the 1800s was intrinsically wrong? Perhaps our : morals have evolved so that we now view that as wrong, but at the time : there was nothing evil about it at all. Maybe in the future we may again : evolve our morals to accept slavery. But we know that slavery can never be : justified at any time because humans have rights. Whoa, biological evolution does not move that fast. Rather, slavery was probably seen as justified by many people in those days because those people grew up to not respect slaves as members of their "group." What you and I might consider normal moral respect for others vanishes when you stop respecting those others as fellows and distance them from you. Hence why it's such a common occurance in genocide for the murderers to see the victims as less than human. : But evolutionary morals can not support the concept human rights. If : evolution is true, humans are no different from animals, so if it's OK to : grill a steak for dinner, why not eat children? Cannibalism cannot be : considered intrinsically wrong by evolutionary morals. It could be argued : that in a famine, those who don't eat their children would actually die : out, making cannibalism the right thing to do. That would eliminate your lineage, and would be extremely disadvantageous. Intuition also isn't usually very structured; it's unlikely that evolution would impose specific caveats on when it is or isn't okay. Since it's almost always going to screw your lineage over in the greater scheme of things, it is generally extremely beneficial to be horrified at the concept of sacrificing or (in general) losing your children. : Also, evolutionary morals would not be able to condemn rape. In fact, rape : should technically be encouraged as that would boost the survival chances : of the fittest-person's lineage. Actually, not necessarily. Rape bypasses any sort of fittest-ness checks. And since it is always seen as harmful to the victim, it could easily cause horrible disunity, especially once you consider that humanity has also evolved both senses of vengeance and possessive senses for partners and parental bonds. : Along those lines, war would be : encouraged in evolutionary morals in order to wipe out other competing : humans and hoard resources. Possibly, yes. This sort of behaviour is extremely common amongst human beings. It unsurprisingly tends to be less encouraged amongst people with global outlook, since they see the people in other groups as members of their group and thus would support rather than harm them. : Evolutionary morals put personal survival as top priority. Not entirely. In close tribes, they can put tribal survival as a major priority; there's sometimes enough mixing within a group that propogating the overall genes of a group is as relevant as individual genes. Thus under some extreme circumstances, even direct self-sacrifice can actually be the best method of genetic propogation. Again, ants are a terrific example, though this might be a bit of an unfair example since not all healthy ants engage in procreation. //========================== : If morals are the result of evolution, then whatever personal morals people : hold should be considered right as they have just evolved that way. We are : left with moral relativism. In which case, serial killers and rapists : cannot be condemned of wrong doing, they were just acting according to : their intuitive programming and thought that their actions were morally : good. In which case humanity should have no criminal laws, as nothing can : be considered inherently good or bad. Humans are just doing what humans : do. This is sort of an issue whether you believe that morals source from evolution or not. I mean, regardless of your belief here, the fact of the matter is that not everyone innately has the same moral beliefs and intuitions. Some philosophers do agree that it's hard to justify punishing others in general for these reasons, though most people take issue to most of these arguments. It might also be worth noting that most of these moral intuition differences are more due to things like upbringing and disease than evolution. All humans on Earth aren't really THAT evolutionarily separated; take a healthy infant from any human society, and raise him or her in the United States, and you can bet that that person will develop an American sense of morality. So this isn't really an evolutionary issue at all. Anyway, the vast majority of modern Western people try to circumvent the issue along the somewhat Utilitarian method of valuing every's happiness and condemning those who screw others over (and thereby decreasing pleasure or causing pain). Or a Kantian approach of demanding that people should always be treated as ends and never as means, i.e. treat everyone with respect. Actually, I lie; many people just take offense when someone screws over a member of their group because they have an intuitive sense of retribution, and de-incentivization of harm. //========================== In any case, I think you're misconstruing the issue. I'm arguing that there is an evolutionary explaination for why we construct moral theory how we do. I'm not arguing that we use should these evolutionary explainations completely directly as law (I would actually argue that they're too vague and maleable to do so), or that this evolutionary logic is The Good.

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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:03 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:19 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 5:52 p.m.
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That's the one! *NM*	ZackDark	2/5/12 6:43 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 10:45 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/9/12 2:29 a.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/9/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 6:44 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 6:51 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 6:53 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 7:00 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 7:14 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/6/12 11:52 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 2:06 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/6/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 4:38 p.m.
I think you guys have been horribly misreading...	davidfuchs	2/6/12 6:09 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 7:07 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 8:30 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:37 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 11:43 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:36 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 12:13 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:56 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 4:56 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 1:08 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 7:53 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 8:17 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 10:49 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 11:22 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 11:59 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:21 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:32 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:49 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:41 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/18/12 5:27 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:35 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:22 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 12:39 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 12:47 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 7:53 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:21 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 2:40 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 1:54 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 8:23 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:34 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 9:32 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 10:35 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 5:02 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/21/12 6:40 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 2:09 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:14 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/18/12 11:55 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 7:33 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:24 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 12:20 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/21/12 1:17 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 8:15 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:16 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:46 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 10:47 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 10:35 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/20/12 4:59 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/20/12 5:32 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/20/12 6:38 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/20/12 8:07 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/20/12 8:24 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 8:34 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 2:23 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/20/12 9:47 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/20/12 11:31 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 3:59 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/21/12 6:48 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 1:52 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 4:06 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 8:55 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 2:30 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/21/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 3:56 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/22/12 12:38 a.m.
Re: Theoretical-- Humor is arbitrary, logic is not	General Vagueness	2/21/12 6:45 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/20/12 7:41 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	inu	2/22/12 1:31 a.m.
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Because I'm stubborn . . . .	Leisandir	2/22/12 4:13 a.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/18/12 3:34 a.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:36 p.m.
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Quantum Entanglement	RC Master	2/17/12 1:37 a.m.
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Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Storage"	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:44 a.m.
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Re: Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Stor	General Vagueness	2/17/12 7:06 a.m.
Re: Quantum Entanglement doesn't work	General Battuta	2/17/12 5:38 p.m.
Quantum Nonlocality	The Lionheart	2/17/12 5:33 p.m.
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Book recommendation!	Beckx	2/17/12 6:11 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 9:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/9/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 7:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/9/12 8:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 10:11 p.m.
Wow...	Anton1792	2/9/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/10/12 10:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 12:29 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 11:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 11:26 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/11/12 12:55 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/11/12 1:37 a.m.
Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	uberfoop	2/8/12 7:43 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 8:25 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	davidfuchs	2/8/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 12:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 1:19 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 1:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 2:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 3:18 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:50 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 4:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:11 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 6:23 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 1:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:20 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 2:40 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 5:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:21 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:17 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 12:37 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 5:29 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:10 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:09 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:14 p.m.
Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:17 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:29 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:31 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:45 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:20 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 11:34 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:31 a.m.
Um.	Nikko B201	2/16/12 10:21 p.m.
Re: Um.	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:29 p.m.
Re: Um.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:29 a.m.
Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:08 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass - Typo	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:11 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:26 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:09 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:21 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:36 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 12:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:51 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 2:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:42 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:36 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:30 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:35 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 7:25 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:46 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:12 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 3:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 8:07 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 8:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:23 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:48 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:14 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 1:06 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 11:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:51 a.m.
Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:00 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:27 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 2:57 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:21 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:16 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:59 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 2:13 p.m.
Origin of the Rainbow	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:35 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 12:17 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:29 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:52 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:23 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:16 a.m.
Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 2:41 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:33 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:56 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:29 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 9:58 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:56 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 2:58 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:05 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 4:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 4:55 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 11:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:57 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:44 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:24 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:19 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 1:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 4:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 4:49 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 3:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:07 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:53 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:09 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 4:41 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:43 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:49 p.m.
Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil *NM*	Spec ops Grunt	2/8/12 6:22 a.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	scarab	2/8/12 8:05 a.m.
Hop in fridge and hope for the best *NM*	Flynn J Taggart	2/8/12 8:16 a.m.
Re: Hop in fridge and hope for the best	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:24 p.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	General Vagueness	2/9/12 4:53 a.m.
THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	rolandk73	2/16/12 5:38 p.m.
Re: THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:55 p.m.
Doesn't seem possible Truth knows the truth...	davidfuchs	2/5/12 8:04 p.m.
Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/6/12 5:42 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 9:18 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	scarab	2/6/12 9:46 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 10:31 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 11:58 a.m.
When's "The Long Dark" coming out? :P *NM*	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 1:25 p.m.
Never seen Babylon 5	Bry	2/6/12 1:59 p.m.
That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 2:09 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Bry	2/6/12 6:00 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:52 a.m.
Lol.	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 7:44 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	davidfuchs	2/6/12 1:42 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:49 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Metalingus627	2/7/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 5:23 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/8/12 7:51 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/8/12 2:27 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:26 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 3:56 p.m.