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Re: Theoretical Telepathy
Posted By: Hoovaloov	Date: 2/18/12 11:14 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Theoretical Telepathy (Stephen L. (SoundEffect)) : Reason would seem to be a favorable evolutionary adaptation. You say Reason is the result of evolution. But humans have arrived at the hypothesis of evolution by using Reason. This is a circular argument. We must assume something is true in order to argue the other. If we assume evolution is true in order to prove evolution is true, we haven't proven anything. If we assume Reason is true, then we must know why it is true. What gives Reason (or anything in the universe) its truth? : Actually low probability doesn't even matter. If the universe had to have : such laws for matter to be organized in such a way that beings such as us : could exist, the universe only had to occur that way once and we can know : it because we're here. The essence of the Anthropic Principle is the : universe exists in such a way that we can be here and know about it : because we're here. If the universe were adverse to complex life, we : wouldn't be here to discuss it. What I think you're saying is, "It may have been improbable, but the fact that we are here demonstrates that the improbable did happen." This ultimately assumes the conclusion in the premise and is circular reasoning. Just because something can happen doesn't mean it will happen. Also, just because the universe does exist with the conditions tuned precisely for life does not discount how extremely unlikely it is that it does exist. Our brains normally aren't fooled by immensely improbable outcomes. Eventually, when the odds become too extreme (like someone winning the lottery 1,000 times in a row), we search for a different logical explanation, an underlying cause (the winner cheated). So why do we not apply the same logic to the origins of our universe? The fact that life/universe/laws/truth all exist does not change how incredibly unlikely it is that they exist. Our universe has laws that are finely-tuned to support life. Any slight change to those laws and life would not be able to exist. But these finely-tuned laws and constants are an extremely unlikely outcome if it is the result of randomness. And because of the incredible unlikeliness, we need an answer as to why this outcome was made reality. Infinite numbers of universes (the concept of a multiverse) don't really solve this problem for us. Just because something can happen doesn't mean it will happen. : Then again, the verdict is still out on whether the universe had a single : beginning of if we're just in the midst of an infinite series of : expansions and contractions of an ever exiting universe, meaning it had no : creation but simply always was. We don't know that yet and may never. This is just another way of saying that our universe is one of many in a multiverse. But the multiverse has many problems: 1) There's no way to observe any other universes while inside our own. So the multiverse is pure conjecture with no scientific method to test it. 2) If there's no way to observe other universes, how do we know that our fine-tuned universe is unique? What if every single other universe is just like our extremely unlikely fine-tuned universe? There's really no way to prove that this isn't the case. Then we have a situation where the multiverse is fine-tuned to produce universes which are fine-tuned to support life. This in fact makes it more unbelievable and unlikely that our universe is produced by chance, instead it would seem that the multiverse is programmed to make all of its universes that way. So who programmed the multiverse? 3) There must be some meta-laws of the multiverse that dictate how universes can come in and out of existence. So even if the completely hypothetical multiverse is responsible for creating our universe, where do the meta-laws of the multiverse come from? It's like I said our universe is a finely-tuned watch, so someone must have made it. And you say no, the watch came from a store full of trillions of watches all put together by chance. That doesn't explain how the store came into existence. How did the multiverse begin? Where did these meta-laws come from? : What I find most fascinating is that from what is known about quantum : physics, the universe can have been brought into existence from nothing : all on its own. Not saying it did, nor is anyone, but it's interesting : that it could have. 4) There is good reason to believe that in order for the universe to have been brought into existence from nothing, the total mass (and therefore total space the mass occupies) must be zero. But then this makes the multiverse false because our universe must take up some space within the multiverse. If the multiverse is false, then all we have is our universe, which is fine-tuned to support life, which is extremely unlikely, which points to our universe being designed. Alternatively, we can assume that the multiverse is true, in which case the total mass/space of our universe is not zero, which means the total energy of the universe is not zero, so it cannot originate from nothing. It needs an underlying cause to create this energy and mass. Either way, the universe/multiverse needs an underlying cause. 5) Ultimately, the multiverse idea is a purely metaphysical hypothesis. It fails pretty much all the elements of the scientific method: we can't operate on the multiverse, we can't observe the multiverse, and it certainly fails Occam's Razor. All we can do is hypothesize about it. And what have we hypothesized? That it is by definition timeless, outside the laws of physics, and can create something from nothing. But aren't these the same objections brought against the existence of God? The scientific community wants nothing to do with a metaphysical being who is by definition timeless, outside the laws of physics, and can create something from nothing. So why is the multiverse acceptable?

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The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 4:48 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:03 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	DHalo	2/5/12 5:08 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:19 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 5:31 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:41 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 5:52 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 6:37 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Anton1792	2/5/12 6:41 p.m.
That's the one! *NM*	ZackDark	2/5/12 6:43 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	General Vagueness	2/9/12 2:21 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/9/12 2:29 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Hoovaloov	2/9/12 3:37 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/9/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 6:44 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 6:51 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 6:53 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 7:00 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Gilver	2/5/12 7:08 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 7:14 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/6/12 11:52 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 2:06 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/6/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 4:38 p.m.
I think you guys have been horribly misreading...	davidfuchs	2/6/12 6:09 p.m.
Re: I think you guys have been horribly misreading	Flynn J Taggart	2/6/12 7:58 p.m.
Re: I think you guys have been horribly misreading	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:46 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 7:07 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	NsU Soldier	2/7/12 5:13 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 7:05 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 7:18 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 7:30 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 8:30 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	TDSpiral	2/5/12 8:53 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 9:34 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/5/12 10:43 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Leviathan	2/6/12 6:05 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 8:47 a.m.
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Re: How I try to rationalize the insanity	Flynn J Taggart	2/6/12 8:13 p.m.
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Re: How I try to rationalize the insanity	JDQuackers	2/6/12 9:07 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:37 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 11:43 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:36 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 12:13 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:56 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 4:56 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 1:08 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 7:53 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 8:17 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 10:49 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/17/12 11:22 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 11:59 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:21 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:32 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:49 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:41 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/18/12 5:27 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:35 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:22 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 12:39 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 12:47 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 7:53 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:21 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 2:40 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 1:54 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 8:23 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:34 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 9:32 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 10:35 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 5:02 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/21/12 6:40 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 2:09 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:14 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/18/12 11:55 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 7:33 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:24 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 12:20 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/21/12 1:17 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 8:15 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:16 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/19/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/19/12 9:46 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 10:47 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 10:35 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/20/12 4:59 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/20/12 5:32 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/20/12 6:38 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/20/12 8:07 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/20/12 8:24 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/21/12 8:34 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 2:23 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/20/12 9:47 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/20/12 11:31 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 3:59 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/21/12 6:48 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 1:52 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 4:06 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 3:10 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/22/12 12:36 a.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 2:30 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/21/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/21/12 3:56 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/22/12 12:38 a.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/20/12 7:41 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/18/12 3:34 a.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:36 p.m.
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Quantum Entanglement	RC Master	2/17/12 1:37 a.m.
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Re: Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Stor	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:57 a.m.
Re: Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Stor	General Vagueness	2/17/12 7:06 a.m.
Re: Quantum Entanglement doesn't work	General Battuta	2/17/12 5:38 p.m.
Quantum Nonlocality	The Lionheart	2/17/12 5:33 p.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 9:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/9/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 7:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/9/12 8:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 10:11 p.m.
Wow...	Anton1792	2/9/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/10/12 10:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 12:29 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 11:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 11:26 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/11/12 12:55 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/11/12 1:37 a.m.
Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	uberfoop	2/8/12 7:43 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 8:25 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	davidfuchs	2/8/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 12:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 1:19 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 1:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 2:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 3:18 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:50 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 4:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:11 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 6:23 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 1:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:20 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 2:40 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 5:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:21 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:17 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 12:37 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 5:29 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:10 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:09 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:14 p.m.
Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:17 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:29 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:31 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:45 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:20 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 11:34 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:31 a.m.
Um.	Nikko B201	2/16/12 10:21 p.m.
Re: Um.	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:29 p.m.
Re: Um.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:29 a.m.
Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:08 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass - Typo	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:11 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:26 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:09 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:21 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:36 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 12:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:51 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 2:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:42 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:36 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:30 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:35 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 7:25 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:46 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:12 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 3:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 8:07 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 8:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:23 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:48 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:14 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 1:06 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 11:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:51 a.m.
Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:00 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:27 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 2:57 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:21 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:16 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:59 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 2:13 p.m.
Origin of the Rainbow	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:35 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 12:17 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:29 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:52 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:23 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:16 a.m.
Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 2:41 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:33 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:56 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:29 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 9:58 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:56 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 2:58 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:05 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 4:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 4:55 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 11:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:57 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:44 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:24 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:19 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 1:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 4:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 4:49 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 3:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:07 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:53 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:09 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 4:41 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:43 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:49 p.m.
Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil *NM*	Spec ops Grunt	2/8/12 6:22 a.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	scarab	2/8/12 8:05 a.m.
Hop in fridge and hope for the best *NM*	Flynn J Taggart	2/8/12 8:16 a.m.
Re: Hop in fridge and hope for the best	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:24 p.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	General Vagueness	2/9/12 4:53 a.m.
THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	rolandk73	2/16/12 5:38 p.m.
Re: THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:55 p.m.
Doesn't seem possible Truth knows the truth...	davidfuchs	2/5/12 8:04 p.m.
Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/6/12 5:42 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 9:18 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	scarab	2/6/12 9:46 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 10:31 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 11:58 a.m.
When's "The Long Dark" coming out? :P *NM*	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 1:25 p.m.
Never seen Babylon 5	Bry	2/6/12 1:59 p.m.
That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 2:09 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Bry	2/6/12 6:00 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:52 a.m.
Lol.	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 7:44 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	davidfuchs	2/6/12 1:42 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:49 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Metalingus627	2/7/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 5:23 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/8/12 7:51 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/8/12 2:27 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:26 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 3:56 p.m.