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Re: Holograms and 2401 PT
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>	Date: 2/17/12 12:27 a.m.
In Response To: Holograms and 2401 PT (Hoovaloov) : Fair enough. : I agree the hologram is low tech, but can not low tech things (if not : necessarily this one) still provide truths? They certainly can. Specifically with what we're discussing, I'd argue that an examination of the model of Halo used to represent the 'real thing' would be given higher importance to a lower resolution display or hologram of a Halo. : I didn't take those bowl-shaped caps to be the galaxy at first, but I can see : how the whole thing could be a crude model of the galaxy. If that's the : case, then no, nothing should be gleaned from the hologram about scale. I didn't really take to the idea until I had extracted the model, rotated it around a little and got a better look than in the cutscene. Seeing the Halos about the galaxy reminded me a little of the first time we see the hologram of Regret on Delta Halo where we lower the bridge and you see the Prophet presiding over the spinning galaxy. Love that room. : I don't remember the Flood lab holograms. The one where we chase the Heretic : on the gas mining installation? Your point still stands about the only : detailed hologram being the Control Room. Yes, the one where the Arbiter says "That cable...I'm going to cut it". It's a simple hologram that gives us the impression of the station. It's about the size of the Pillar of Autumn so it would've ben memory-prohibitive to use the real one, so I wouldn't use it for measurements or detail, but it does do its job of telling me what it is, and like the Halo hologram in the Control room in Halo 1, the red patches show the Flood outbreak. : Right after Miranda removes the Index, we see the dissipation pulse charge on : top of the Control Room, fire into space, dissipate the energy at the : center of the ring, and the scene fades to black. Some time later, a new : scene begins, the Control Room has reconfigured itself to be flat instead : of that three-tiered structure from the Tartarus fight. In the middle of : the room is a hologram which Miranda is staring directly at. She asks, : "What's that?" 343 Guilty Spark responds, "A beacon." : Unless Spark is dense, he knows she's asking about the thing right in : front of her, not the pulse that was fired presumably minutes ago. Spark : later says that hologram/beacon is doing the communicating, not the pulse. : We know that the H2 ring is a duplicate of the H1 ring. Are we to assume that : all Halos are constructed exactly the same? Same land masses? Same oceans? : Same everything? As of Halo 2, that was the evidence. We have now seen that Halo 3 has provided us the habitats of the remaining 5 installations. Interestingly though, the texture graphics for Alpha and Delta Halo are still using common textures with each other so that's still the case even in Halo 3 that the landforms and water of Halo 04 and 05 are STILL identical. Perhaps the others are similar but have had different environmental histories which has changed their look. The Anniversary Terminal tell us what happens to a Halo landscape when a Monitor is bored...Ka-BooM! :P : True enough, but this still doesn't rule out the possibility of it telling us : something. But you bring up a good point at how crude it is. : This is your best point. I didn't understand what you meant by : "perspective trick," or the point of creating different sized : Halos in the hologram. But now I see that using different sized Halos : would enhance the appearance that the Halos have spread out further than : they actually have. It makes the hologram look like it's covering more : space than it is. I didn't know that's what you meant by perspective : trick, but you're right. I didn't mind admitting that the hologram was low : tech, I just didn't understand what other purpose could be served with : different sized Halos, but this helps explain why Bungie would do that. : Thanks for being persistent. And the Borg thought Persistence is Futile.. :P I'm glad I was able to at least get my thoughts across whether you agreed with them or not. I'd prefer that if you did take another stance that you knew what I meant and intentionally did so. It's a cinematic trick to use forced perspective when your field of view is narrow. Not saying it's employed in this scene, but it's a possible reason for the intentionally different sized Halo meshes. : This hologram was one of those things that when I saw it on screen for the : first time, I thought it was telling me something (the Halos are different : sizes), but yet I got the feeling that wasn't the point of the hologram. I : honestly wasn't bothered when Halo 3 told us the Halos were the same size, : so I wasn't taking that hologram too seriously at the time. So if I didn't : take that hologram seriously before, why was I bothered by it now? I just : couldn't explain why Bungie would make different sized holograms, but I : believe you're right. My 2004 brain knew not to believe that hologram, and : my 2012 brain didn't remember the reasons why. :) : I know that the eye isn't made with a red texture, but what appears on screen : is red. And Bungie gave that cutscene the seal of approval, they shipped : 2401 PT appearing red. They gave us no indication he should be a different : color. : Why is he red? There's really only a few options: he's either rampant, about : to fire his laser, infected by the Flood, or it's his natural color. : As you said, he doesn't act rampant, nor does he seem ready to use his laser. : You say he's infected by the Flood because Bungie layered a "Flood : texture" on top of the regular blue one. Can you give us some more : detail on this Flood texture? Does it have the word "flood" in : the file name? Can you export the texture so we can see it? I don't have : enough knowledge of this texture to debate its implications. Certainly. It took a bit to find. I can only see one texture at a time so I Photoshopped the texture in the left pane but the red lines show what file path leads to what texture. What I had clicked on the left is shown on the right. There is a separate "object/character/monitor/bitmaps/monitor" Monitor texture file which is the non-Floodified 'Guilty Spark' texture which is the same blue-eyed version as in the pic below. Not sure why the image duplication. : But I would say that I'm really not sure how a Monitor can become infected. : He certainly acted normally, he didn't seem like he was in any pain or : otherwise adversely affected by the Gravemind (unlike Regret who was : clearly uncomfortable). He wasn't absorbed into the Gravemind like Regret. : He looked like he was just being held there by the Gravemind, like the : Chief and the Arbiter. And they weren't infected just because of being : held by the Gravemind. The Gravemind can infect and control machinery, technology and Cortana. PT doesn't seem harder to do. This was my thought with "The Smuggler" Forerunner report. I was under the impression that 2401 PT wasn't "lax in his duties" for 300ish years, but rather that the Flood had gotten out, the Monitor was captured/infected and simply wasn't capable of making scheduled reports. : So I still believe Bungie intended that red be his natural color. So if : Monitors can be two colors in their natural state, it's not a big leap to : assume the other five Monitors could have naturally different colors.

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Re: Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Stor	General Vagueness	2/17/12 7:06 a.m.
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Quantum Nonlocality	The Lionheart	2/17/12 5:33 p.m.
Re: Quantum Nonlocality	General Battuta	2/17/12 5:40 p.m.
Book recommendation!	Beckx	2/17/12 6:11 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 9:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/9/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 7:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/9/12 8:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 10:11 p.m.
Wow...	Anton1792	2/9/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/10/12 10:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 12:29 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 11:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 11:26 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/11/12 12:55 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/11/12 1:37 a.m.
Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	uberfoop	2/8/12 7:43 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 8:25 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	davidfuchs	2/8/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 12:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 1:19 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 1:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 2:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 3:18 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:50 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 4:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:11 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 6:23 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 1:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:20 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 2:40 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 5:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:21 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:17 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 12:37 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 5:29 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:10 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:09 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:14 p.m.
Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:17 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:29 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:31 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:45 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:20 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 11:34 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:31 a.m.
Um.	Nikko B201	2/16/12 10:21 p.m.
Re: Um.	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:29 p.m.
Re: Um.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:29 a.m.
Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:08 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass - Typo	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:11 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:26 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:09 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:21 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:36 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 12:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:51 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 2:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:42 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:36 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:30 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:35 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 7:25 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:46 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:12 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 3:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 8:07 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 8:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:23 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:48 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:14 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 1:06 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 11:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:51 a.m.
Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:00 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:27 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 2:57 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:21 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:16 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:59 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 2:13 p.m.
Origin of the Rainbow	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:35 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 12:17 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:29 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:52 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:23 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:16 a.m.
Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 2:41 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:33 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:56 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:29 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 9:58 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:56 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 2:58 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:05 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 4:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 4:55 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 11:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:57 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:44 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:24 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:19 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 1:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 4:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 4:49 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 3:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:07 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:53 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:09 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 4:41 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:43 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:49 p.m.
Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil *NM*	Spec ops Grunt	2/8/12 6:22 a.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	scarab	2/8/12 8:05 a.m.
Hop in fridge and hope for the best *NM*	Flynn J Taggart	2/8/12 8:16 a.m.
Re: Hop in fridge and hope for the best	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:24 p.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	General Vagueness	2/9/12 4:53 a.m.
THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	rolandk73	2/16/12 5:38 p.m.
Re: THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:55 p.m.
Doesn't seem possible Truth knows the truth...	davidfuchs	2/5/12 8:04 p.m.
Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/6/12 5:42 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 9:18 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	scarab	2/6/12 9:46 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 10:31 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 11:58 a.m.
When's "The Long Dark" coming out? :P *NM*	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 1:25 p.m.
Never seen Babylon 5	Bry	2/6/12 1:59 p.m.
That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 2:09 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Bry	2/6/12 6:00 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:52 a.m.
Lol.	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 7:44 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	davidfuchs	2/6/12 1:42 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:49 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Metalingus627	2/7/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 5:23 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/8/12 7:51 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/8/12 2:27 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:26 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 3:56 p.m.