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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>	Date: 2/16/12 1:08 p.m.
In Response To: Re: How do you survive Halo firing? (Hoovaloov) : They're not terribly low res: each of the 7 Halos in the H2 hologram have 16 : facets. This much larger Forerunner hologram also represents Halo with a : jagged edge. It has 36 facets for the one very large hologram (2 facets : per "chunk"). It could be that Bungie simply didn't have : resources for all 7 Halo holograms in H2 to have 36 facets. That Halo 1 map room hologram is crap. I'd say it is intended to be vague so the player knows they did something important but not to think too much on it. That's just a bad hologram. : I'm not sure I follow on your length to width point. Are you saying that Halo : 1 and 2's skyboxes should show us a different ratio of length to width if : the Halos were intended to be different sizes? Yes they should be : different. So why aren't they? You could use the skyboxes or the outside space Halo rings. I was talking about the outside actual ring. From each you can see the width and length ratios from Halo 1 to 2 are identical. What's more a true reliable source? A holographic representation or the model of the actual installation? I don't think a hologram comes close to a primary source of information. : I'm of the opinion that Bungie doesn't purposefully show us two things that : are contradictory without a good reason. We have a hologram that clearly : shows us differing sized Halos, and a skybox and in-game model that shows : us the Halos are exactly the same. Which is correct? We know that Halo 2 : was the most rushed, barely scrapped together game of the trilogy, so : reusing assets would be a good shortcut. Therefore, I think the skybox is : less reliable than the hologram that is a centerpiece of the final : cutscene. Using your own argument, I's say they rushed the construction of that hologram to squeeze it into the game. At any rate, it's so low tech, I wouldn't use it as a reliable source anyway. : That being said, Halo 3 makes it clear that the Halos are not different : sizes. But I think that was perhaps a direction Bungie thought about going : at the time of Halo 2. : Exactly my point. Sometimes the resource restrictions make Bungie do some : shortcuts that go against the fiction. Bungie was obviously short on time : to make Halo 2, so perhaps they re-used the Halo model from Halo 1 in : order to save time, even though their hologram implied they were going for : different sized Halos. : Here's a transcript of that scene: ----------- : COMMANDER KEYES (referring to hologram): What's that? : 343 GUILTY SPARK: A beacon. : COMMANDER KEYES: What's it doing? : 343 GUILTY SPARK: Communicating at superluminal speeds with a frequency of- : COMMANDER KEYES: Communicating with what? : 343 GUILTY SPARK: The other installations. : ----------- : So it's not a representation of the galaxy, it's the beacon that is : communicating with the other rings. What the hologram is showing is that a beacon is communicating, yes. Where are the 7 Halo rings? Inside the galaxy. I'm suggesting the bowl-shaped caps that separate and let us see the Halos within are the galaxy in hologram form. If so, then they misrepresent of the true shape of the galaxy as those Halo rings are. Again, it's meant to show us what's happening, not be a pinnacle of accurate design. It's only a holographic representation. For something similar look at the Flood lab earlier in the game. The holographic display could've been a transparent reuse of the actual model, but a simple model was used because most Forerunner holograms we've seen are inferior to the actual things they represent. I can think of only one exception...the gigantic Halo ring in the Halo 1 control room was the actual Halo 1 model used in space. : I'll also point out that this makes it pretty clear that the pulse was indeed : a dissipation pulse, not the beacon. Can you elaborate on 'pretty clear'? I'm still not convinced it's not showing a comm pulse being sent into Slipspace. : I would say that since we know the 'real' Halo 2 model of the Halo ring is an : exact, reused duplicate of a Halo 1 asset, it's the least reliable source. : Bungie was probably hoping no one would ever notice they simply copy and : pasted it into Halo 2. The ring is a giant object with a fair amount of detail. I don't know what it's an unreliable resource. You'd think that if they intended their titular object to be radically different, they wouldn't go for reuse of the same ring model, ring textures, and skybox textures. : However, for their big reveal in the final cutscene, Bungie spent quite a bit : of extremely limited time to craft a brand new hologram asset to : illustrate that there are 7 Halos and an Ark. The last cutscene leaves the : biggest impression on the player, and that impression is that the Halos : are different sizes. Well, I'll argue that the hologram at the end shows they were out of time. It's almost laughably low detail compared to some holograms they've used of Forerunner stuff. : I totally agree. I don't see how it can be said that Bungie didn't intend for : the final hologram to show different sized Halos. I'll still argue that it's the effect of showing a hologram grow showing the rings disperse from the center of the 'galaxy' to display their relative locations. The different sizes were likely used to show us holograms in a tight field of view...the scene is not very big. Whether that's on purpose or not I don't know. : As of right now, we know they aren't. Back when Halo 2 came out, I thought : they were different based on the cutscene. I guess I didn't know I needed : to hack the game code to get the right answer. ;) Just teasing. In the : end, I think Bungie changed their minds about having different sized : Halos. If Delta Halo was supposed to be a different size and have a different width to diameter ratio, why did the old model and skybox get reused? They didn't run out of time until the end of development. : Yes, the hologram is showing us an "exploded view." The Halos were : on top of each other, but then they moved apart. But at the time of H2's : development, if Bungie intended the Halos to be the same size, why : wouldn't they just make the 7 holograms the exact same size? Why bother : making them so different in size? Making them the same size would actually : save Bungie some time, something they were very short on in Halo 2's : development. To show us 7 rings on screen in a tight field of view with the 3 characters on scene. Smaller Halos can look like regular size ones but without increasing the distance. : Or they simply changed their minds. Not the first time they've done that. :) : Why did most people think 2401 PT's eye was red? Because Bungie shipped the : game that way. If Bungie intended his eye to be blue, why did they add a : texture to make it red? How did a red 2401 PT get by anyone at Bungie who : knew he should be blue? And then why continue spreading misinformation in : the multiplayer map Backwash? He was clearly meant to appear red to the : player, even if they achieved that on the back end with a blue monitor : underneath. But it's still actually blue with a texture over it. What Bungie actually did and what players perceived are two different things. There's no 'red eye' version texture in the game files. I mistook it as well when I first played. It wasn't until I saw the texture files that I realized what they'd done. They eye isn't red...it's a semi-transparent Flood texture over a blue eye. It's not a real red and that's still obvious to me. It's not a rich a red color as laser-eye Spark. The bad part is : If he's not rampant, then his natural color is red. There's really no getting : around the point that Bungie made 2401 red. So we have two different : colored Monitors. It was widely theorized that since there are seven : Halos, and seven colors in the rainbow, each Monitor would be a different : color. We only saw those two Monitors, but 343 obviously liked this idea. : Or perhaps Frankie/someone else knew this was Bungie's reason for making : 2401 red in the first place. I know from talking with 343i that they didn't know how the textures were put together or that 2401 PT had actually been Flood-infected. : I thought 343 GS finally snapped when they told him they were going to : destroy his precious installation for the second time. He went crazy and : turned on the Reclaimers, the people he was sworn to protect. Even in the : Anniversary terminals, 343 GS flickers red when rampancy starts to set : in.

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The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 4:48 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:03 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	DHalo	2/5/12 5:08 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:19 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 5:31 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	ZackDark	2/5/12 5:41 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 5:52 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 6:37 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Anton1792	2/5/12 6:41 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/5/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	General Vagueness	2/9/12 2:21 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/9/12 2:29 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Hoovaloov	2/9/12 3:37 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	davidfuchs	2/9/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 6:44 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 6:51 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 6:53 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 7:00 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Gilver	2/5/12 7:08 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 7:14 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/6/12 11:52 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 2:06 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/6/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 4:38 p.m.
I think you guys have been horribly misreading...	davidfuchs	2/6/12 6:09 p.m.
Re: I think you guys have been horribly misreading	Flynn J Taggart	2/6/12 7:58 p.m.
Re: I think you guys have been horribly misreading	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:46 a.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 7:07 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	NsU Soldier	2/7/12 5:13 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 7:05 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Imrane-117	2/5/12 7:18 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 7:30 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Postmortem	2/5/12 8:30 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	TDSpiral	2/5/12 8:53 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/5/12 9:34 p.m.
Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/5/12 10:43 p.m.
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Re: The Prophets' motivations in Halo 2	scarab	2/6/12 8:47 a.m.
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Re: How I try to rationalize the insanity	JDQuackers	2/6/12 9:07 p.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	davidfuchs	2/7/12 2:30 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	bluerunner	2/7/12 3:10 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/7/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/7/12 3:46 p.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/7/12 6:26 p.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/7/12 11:55 p.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/7/12 6:22 p.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/7/12 9:29 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 12:13 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 12:36 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 3:23 a.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	scarab	2/7/12 11:11 p.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/7/12 11:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/7/12 11:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 12:04 a.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 3:38 a.m.
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Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/12/12 11:14 p.m.
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Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Hoovaloov	2/22/12 1:24 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	uberfoop	2/18/12 3:34 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/18/12 7:17 a.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:36 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Mid7night	2/18/12 3:45 p.m.
Re: Theoretical Telepathy	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 6:15 p.m.
Quantum Entanglement	RC Master	2/17/12 1:37 a.m.
Re: Quantum Entanglement	General Vagueness	2/17/12 5:01 a.m.
Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Storage"	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:44 a.m.
Re: Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Stor	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:57 a.m.
Re: Flood Stasis & The Hidden Secret of "Cold Stor	General Vagueness	2/17/12 7:06 a.m.
Re: Quantum Entanglement doesn't work	General Battuta	2/17/12 5:38 p.m.
Quantum Nonlocality	The Lionheart	2/17/12 5:33 p.m.
Re: Quantum Nonlocality	General Battuta	2/17/12 5:40 p.m.
Book recommendation!	Beckx	2/17/12 6:11 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 9:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/9/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 7:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/9/12 8:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/9/12 10:11 p.m.
Wow...	Anton1792	2/9/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/10/12 10:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 12:29 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/10/12 11:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/10/12 11:26 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/11/12 12:55 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/11/12 1:37 a.m.
Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	uberfoop	2/8/12 7:43 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 8:25 a.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	davidfuchs	2/8/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Special relativity is dubious in Halo anyway.	Hoovaloov	2/8/12 10:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 12:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 1:19 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 1:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 2:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 2:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 3:18 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 3:50 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/13/12 4:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:11 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/13/12 4:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 6:23 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 1:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 2:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:32 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:20 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 2:40 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/13/12 5:16 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 10:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:21 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:17 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 12:37 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 5:29 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:03 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:46 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:10 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:09 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:14 p.m.
Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:17 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:29 p.m.
Re: Also...	JDQuackers	2/16/12 9:31 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:45 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:20 p.m.
Re: Also...	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 11:34 p.m.
Re: Also...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:31 a.m.
Um.	Nikko B201	2/16/12 10:21 p.m.
Re: Um.	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:29 p.m.
Re: Um.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:29 a.m.
Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:08 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass - Typo	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 4:11 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:26 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:09 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:21 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	uberfoop	2/17/12 5:36 a.m.
Re: Sentience vs. Biomass	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:50 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:22 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 11:21 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 2:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 5:31 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 12:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:37 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:51 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 1:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 2:54 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:42 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:36 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:30 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:35 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 7:25 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:46 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:12 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 3:31 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 8:07 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 8:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:30 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:23 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:48 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 8:14 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 3:39 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:27 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 1:06 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 11:45 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 1:51 a.m.
Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 10:00 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:27 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 2:57 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 4:21 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 5:16 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 12:59 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/12 2:13 p.m.
Origin of the Rainbow	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 11:35 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 12:17 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:29 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:52 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:27 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 11:23 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/19/12 12:16 a.m.
Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 2:41 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 4:33 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Hoovaloov	2/18/12 4:56 a.m.
Re: Rainbow Theory Origins	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/18/12 1:29 p.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	General Vagueness	2/17/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	Hoovaloov	2/17/12 9:58 a.m.
Re: Holograms and 2401 PT	JDQuackers	2/17/12 1:41 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:56 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 2:58 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:05 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Archilen	2/14/12 4:12 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:59 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 5:24 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:33 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 4:55 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 11:53 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Mid7night	2/16/12 7:57 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 1:39 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 2:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 3:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 3:44 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/14/12 4:24 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:04 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:15 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:19 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 1:20 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 2:28 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/15/12 2:34 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 4:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	uberfoop	2/16/12 4:49 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/16/12 5:48 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 3:56 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 4:08 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	JDQuackers	2/14/12 4:13 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/14/12 5:00 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Ciarán	2/14/12 5:07 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 12:11 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/15/12 2:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 3:38 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	General Vagueness	2/15/12 6:33 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/15/12 11:53 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 4:09 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 4:41 a.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 1:43 p.m.
Re: How do you survive Halo firing?	Hoovaloov	2/16/12 7:49 p.m.
Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil *NM*	Spec ops Grunt	2/8/12 6:22 a.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	scarab	2/8/12 8:05 a.m.
Hop in fridge and hope for the best *NM*	Flynn J Taggart	2/8/12 8:16 a.m.
Re: Hop in fridge and hope for the best	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:24 p.m.
Re: Lots of vaseline and aluminum foil	General Vagueness	2/9/12 4:53 a.m.
THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	rolandk73	2/16/12 5:38 p.m.
Re: THIS is how you survive a Halo firing	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/16/12 6:55 p.m.
Doesn't seem possible Truth knows the truth...	davidfuchs	2/5/12 8:04 p.m.
Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/6/12 5:42 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 9:18 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	scarab	2/6/12 9:46 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Hoovaloov	2/6/12 10:31 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 11:58 a.m.
When's "The Long Dark" coming out? :P *NM*	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 1:25 p.m.
Never seen Babylon 5	Bry	2/6/12 1:59 p.m.
That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 2:09 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Bry	2/6/12 6:00 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	JDQuackers	2/6/12 6:12 p.m.
Re: That phrase... It's not what you think it is	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:52 a.m.
Lol.	Arithmomaniac	2/6/12 7:44 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	davidfuchs	2/6/12 1:42 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/6/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Leviathan	2/7/12 2:49 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Metalingus627	2/7/12 3:28 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 5:23 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	The BS Police	2/8/12 7:51 a.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/8/12 2:27 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/8/12 3:26 p.m.
Re: Read Contact Harvest	Bry	2/7/12 3:56 p.m.