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| Re: I disagree completely | |
| Posted By: Hoovaloov | Date: 1/30/12 9:44 a.m. |
In Response To: I disagree completely (Revenant1988) : I think you are flat out wrong here. MM and trueskill are doing their job. : BTB is, and always has been a challenge for the TS system because it takes : many, many games for the system to classify you because of the size of the : teams. Opposed to regular team slayer where it only needs to match you : with 7 other people in your skill range, it now needs to do that with 15 : people. And that, is assuming you go in solo and only get matched with : randoms. What happens when you join in a full party of 8 with skill : ranging from very low to very high? Trueskill is going first try to search : for another full party of 8, and try to get the skill as close as : possible. If it can't it generally seems to match randoms that are in the : middle or average skill level of the 'partied' team as it were. I'm no expert in how MM works under the hood, but I seem to remember H3 specifically focusing more on matching big parties with big parties. There were so many epic H3 games where we had with two full teams of 8 battling it out. It happened a lot. Now I hardly see that even when rolling with teams of 8. We seem much more likely to get matched with Guests and groups of 2 or 3 than in H3. Not really a fair fight. It also seemed like H3 automatically "rounded your party up" to the True Skill of the highest rated player on your team. If you went into Team Slayer as a 25 with two buddies at 23 and 26, but then invited your 45 friend in, you would get matched up with 40s. This was to avoid rank boosting, no doubt, but it also functioned as a built-in match equalizer. In this setup, people in the 20s over time no longer invite 40s in to the party for fear of getting steamrolled. They're much more inclined to invite another 20-ish person to the party. As more players discovered this, it made the average gap in a given party much smaller than today. Reach doesn't seem to go for the highest True Skill. I'm usually near the top of the scoreboard for my team, and it still feels that the average skill of the team we're facing is quite a bit below me or our other top players. Again, not exactly a fair fight. I don't know if the MM code really changed from H3 to Reach, but it certainly plays a lot differently. : There are a lot of people that don't like the TU because they are
I enjoy steamrolling for a few games, but then it's just boring to win 100-42 with only 4 people left on the other team. Also, Reach has been out for over a year, and I don't remember them talking about any True Skill resets (might have happened, don't remember). But I mean, how long does it take to figure me out? I only play like 3 playlists (BTB Anniv., BTB, Team Slayer) and the TU has been out for a while now. I would have thought the True Skill would be settled down and I'd eventually see more competitive matches. Don't get me wrong, Halo's fun. The TU is fun. But sometimes a nail-biting, get the last kill at the buzzer kind of game is fun too. And I just don't see as many of those as I would like to.
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