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Re: Just awful.
Posted By: Phoenix_9286 <Ian.Sechler@gmail.com>Date: 1/5/12 3:16 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Just awful. (Louis Wu)


: I understand your point. (And Hyokin's.) I can even empathize with it. I just
: feel like part of the problem is that the change in rules is requiring
: that you change your gameplay style... and you don't want to. (And before
: anyone gets huffy, I do NOT mean that the game is requiring you to use a
: DMR or lose... I mean that the adjustments to the sandbox require an
: adjustment in how each weapon is used, so that the techniques that USED to
: be successful for you might need tweaking.)

I can't vouch for Hyokin, but I know for me, this is absolutely true.

I've been playing Reach for a year+, I know how to play, I know what to expect, I know what techniques I'm comfortable with using. The TU is throwing that for a loop, and that's not something I appreciate or even want to adapt to. If the TU was presented as Halo 4 (Reach as it is with the TU overlayed on top) I would accept it unquestioningly. It's a new game, I should expect to revise my internal book. But never before have I had to revise the internal book for a game that's been out in the wild for over a year. I flat out believe I shouldn't have to, and that it's wrong to expect me to.

That said. Had the TU been applied globally, in one fell swoop from the day in went live, I don't think I'd be as staunch in my views. I'd still be very irritated I was being forced to revise my book, but at least the newly learned lessons could be applied everywhere, and immediately. This is not the case at the moment. I find it hard to adapt and switch between games. Dropping into anything TU feels alien and broken, like stepping into an alternate reality.

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     Damn it, 343i! Enough with the TU crap!Gravemind 1/4/12 7:23 p.m.
           Re: Damn it, 343i! Enough with the TU crap!ZaneZavin 1/4/12 7:53 p.m.
                 Re: Damn it, 343i! Enough with the TU crap!FyreWulff 1/4/12 9:30 p.m.
           Re: Damn it, 343i! Enough with the TU crap!Phoenix_9286 1/4/12 8:01 p.m.
     Local, too.Louis Wu 1/4/12 7:46 p.m.
     Playlist update = :'(RC Master 1/4/12 7:47 p.m.
           final nail in the coffinkidtsunami 1/4/12 8:00 p.m.
                 ruined for me and my friends that is, subjectively *NM*kidtsunami 1/4/12 8:31 p.m.
           Re: Playlist update = :'(DEEP NNN 1/4/12 8:11 p.m.
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                                                                       Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 3:05 p.m.
                                                                             Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Louis Wu 1/8/12 3:16 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 3:39 p.m.
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                                                                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 4:21 p.m.
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                                                                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 4:30 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?General Vagueness 1/8/12 9:30 p.m.
                                                                             Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 3:49 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?General Vagueness 1/8/12 9:39 p.m.
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                                                                 Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 3:34 p.m.
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                                                           Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 3:26 p.m.
                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?DEEP NNN 1/8/12 9:56 a.m.
                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 4:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?ZaneZavin 1/8/12 5:45 p.m.
                                   Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 1:54 a.m.
                                         ^ Oops, should be reply to RC Master *NM* *NM*Hoovaloov 1/8/12 1:55 a.m.
                                         I like you. *NM*Overdoziz 1/8/12 5:38 a.m.
                                         Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 6:27 a.m.
                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 4:18 p.m.
                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 4:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?General Vagueness 1/8/12 9:46 p.m.
                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Gravemind 1/8/12 5:35 p.m.
     343 Industries really wants me to quit Reach, huh?Avateur 1/4/12 9:11 p.m.
           Re: 343 Industries really wants me to quit Reach, pete_the_duck 1/4/12 9:13 p.m.
           Leave Team Snipers out of it!Jennos 1/4/12 9:59 p.m.
                 Reply meant for main topic by Zane... OOPS *NM*Jennos 1/4/12 10:07 p.m.
           Re: 343 Industries really wants me to quit Reach, SonofMacPhisto 1/5/12 3:39 p.m.
     WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Revenant1988 1/4/12 10:41 p.m.
           SPOILER ALERTAvateur 1/4/12 10:51 p.m.
                 Re: SPOILER ALERTRevenant1988 1/5/12 8:43 a.m.
     Just awful.Hyokin 1/4/12 10:51 p.m.
           Re: Just awful.Hedgemony 1/4/12 11:07 p.m.
                 Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/4/12 11:42 p.m.
                       Re: Just awful.katancik 1/4/12 11:55 p.m.
                 Re: Just awful.padraig08 1/5/12 11:48 a.m.
           Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 10:44 a.m.
                 Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 10:51 a.m.
                       Re: Just awful.Louis Wu 1/5/12 10:52 a.m.
                             Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 11:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 11:52 a.m.
                                   Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 12:02 p.m.
                                         Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 12:31 p.m.
                                               Re: Just awful.FyreWulff 1/5/12 12:43 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 12:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.FyreWulff 1/6/12 12:40 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.Gravemind 1/6/12 3:15 a.m.
                                               Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 2:06 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.Louis Wu 1/5/12 2:12 p.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 2:52 p.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 2:53 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.Louis Wu 1/5/12 3:03 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 3:16 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Just awful.katancik 1/5/12 7:03 p.m.
                                                                             That was a perfect summarization of my feelings. *NM*Hyokin 1/5/12 7:44 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/5/12 9:21 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 9:43 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 9:47 p.m.
                                                                                   Damn it... *NM*Hyokin 1/6/12 11:11 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.uberfoop 1/5/12 9:28 p.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.Avateur 1/5/12 8:12 p.m.
                                                     Possibly key point to make?uberfoop 1/5/12 2:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: Possibly key point to make?Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 2:56 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 2:52 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/5/12 8:13 p.m.
                                   Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/5/12 7:22 p.m.
                             Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/5/12 6:50 p.m.
                       Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/5/12 6:38 p.m.
     My #1 Question7he grunt w/a plasma pistol 1/4/12 11:09 p.m.
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     I don't get all of this hateChris101b 1/5/12 5:05 a.m.
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                       Re: I don't get all of this hatePhoenix_9286 1/5/12 12:15 p.m.
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     Should arrange the playlists like thisFyreWulff 1/6/12 6:23 a.m.



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