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Re: Just awful.
Posted By: Louis Wu <halo@bungie.org>Date: 1/5/12 9:03 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Just awful. (Phoenix_9286)


: I'm well aware it's not all-powerful, but when you have a handful of
: gametypes devoted to using it and only it (Slayer Pro and Slayer DMRs for
: example. Why don't we have Slayer Pistols? Or Slayer Spikers? Slayer
: Grenade Launchers?), and it shows up as a starting weapon in nearly every
: game... It becomes a little difficult to not feel like we're walking back
: into Halo 3 where there was never a reason to use anything else.

I played a game of TU Slayer on Battle Canyon recently where the other team wielded nothing but Assault Rifles. We got destroyed. Surprised the hell out of me.

(The fact that we got destroyed suggests that DMRs are not all-powerful. The fact that I was surprised suggests that I, like you, believe somewhere deep inside that they are. :) )

I understand your point. (And Hyokin's.) I can even empathize with it. I just feel like part of the problem is that the change in rules is requiring that you change your gameplay style... and you don't want to. (And before anyone gets huffy, I do NOT mean that the game is requiring you to use a DMR or lose... I mean that the adjustments to the sandbox require an adjustment in how each weapon is used, so that the techniques that USED to be successful for you might need tweaking.)


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     Damn it, 343i! Enough with the TU crap!Gravemind 1/5/12 1:23 a.m.
           Re: Damn it, 343i! Enough with the TU crap!ZaneZavin 1/5/12 1:53 a.m.
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     Local, too.Louis Wu 1/5/12 1:46 a.m.
     Playlist update = :'(RC Master 1/5/12 1:47 a.m.
           final nail in the coffinkidtsunami 1/5/12 2:00 a.m.
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     So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?UnrealCh13f 1/5/12 2:23 a.m.
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                                                           Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?RC Master 1/8/12 8:54 p.m.
                                                                 Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Overdoziz 1/8/12 9:03 p.m.
                                                                       Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 9:05 p.m.
                                                                             Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Louis Wu 1/8/12 9:16 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 9:39 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 9:42 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Louis Wu 1/8/12 9:47 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 10:21 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?General Vagueness 1/9/12 3:36 a.m.
                                                                                         Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 9:55 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 10:30 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?General Vagueness 1/9/12 3:30 a.m.
                                                                             Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 9:49 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?General Vagueness 1/9/12 3:39 a.m.
                                                                       AND..This just turned into a Waypoint Forum ThreadUnrealCh13f 1/8/12 9:29 p.m.
                                                                 Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 9:34 p.m.
                                                           Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 9:03 p.m.
                                                                 Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Overdoziz 1/8/12 9:24 p.m.
                                                           Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 9:26 p.m.
                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?DEEP NNN 1/8/12 3:56 p.m.
                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 10:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?ZaneZavin 1/8/12 11:45 p.m.
                                   Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 7:54 a.m.
                                         ^ Oops, should be reply to RC Master *NM* *NM*Hoovaloov 1/8/12 7:55 a.m.
                                         I like you. *NM*Overdoziz 1/8/12 11:38 a.m.
                                         Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 12:27 p.m.
                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Hoovaloov 1/8/12 10:18 p.m.
                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?FyreWulff 1/8/12 10:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?General Vagueness 1/9/12 3:46 a.m.
                                               Re: So. Default Reach Remains Default Frankie?Gravemind 1/8/12 11:35 p.m.
     343 Industries really wants me to quit Reach, huh?Avateur 1/5/12 3:11 a.m.
           Re: 343 Industries really wants me to quit Reach, pete_the_duck 1/5/12 3:13 a.m.
           Leave Team Snipers out of it!Jennos 1/5/12 3:59 a.m.
                 Reply meant for main topic by Zane... OOPS *NM*Jennos 1/5/12 4:07 a.m.
           Re: 343 Industries really wants me to quit Reach, SonofMacPhisto 1/5/12 9:39 p.m.
     WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Revenant1988 1/5/12 4:41 a.m.
           SPOILER ALERTAvateur 1/5/12 4:51 a.m.
                 Re: SPOILER ALERTRevenant1988 1/5/12 2:43 p.m.
     Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 4:51 a.m.
           Re: Just awful.Hedgemony 1/5/12 5:07 a.m.
                 Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 5:42 a.m.
                       Re: Just awful.katancik 1/5/12 5:55 a.m.
                 Re: Just awful.padraig08 1/5/12 5:48 p.m.
           Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 4:44 p.m.
                 Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 4:51 p.m.
                       Re: Just awful.Louis Wu 1/5/12 4:52 p.m.
                             Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 5:05 p.m.
                                   Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 5:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 6:02 p.m.
                                         Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 6:31 p.m.
                                               Re: Just awful.FyreWulff 1/5/12 6:43 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 6:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.FyreWulff 1/6/12 6:40 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.Gravemind 1/6/12 9:15 a.m.
                                               Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 8:06 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.Louis Wu 1/5/12 8:12 p.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/5/12 8:52 p.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 8:53 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.Louis Wu 1/5/12 9:03 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Just awful.Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 9:16 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Just awful.katancik 1/6/12 1:03 a.m.
                                                                             That was a perfect summarization of my feelings. *NM*Hyokin 1/6/12 1:44 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/6/12 3:21 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Just awful.Hyokin 1/6/12 3:43 a.m.
                                                                             Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/6/12 3:47 a.m.
                                                                                   Damn it... *NM*Hyokin 1/6/12 5:11 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Just awful.uberfoop 1/6/12 3:28 a.m.
                                                           Re: Just awful.Avateur 1/6/12 2:12 a.m.
                                                     Possibly key point to make?uberfoop 1/5/12 8:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: Possibly key point to make?Phoenix_9286 1/5/12 8:56 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.Overdoziz 1/5/12 8:52 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/6/12 2:13 a.m.
                                   Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/6/12 1:22 a.m.
                             Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/6/12 12:50 a.m.
                       Re: Just awful.General Vagueness 1/6/12 12:38 a.m.
     My #1 Question7he grunt w/a plasma pistol 1/5/12 5:09 a.m.
           Re: My #1 Questionkatancik 1/5/12 6:03 a.m.
     I don't get all of this hateChris101b 1/5/12 11:05 a.m.
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                 Re: I don't get all of this hateLouis Wu 1/5/12 1:42 p.m.
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                             Re: I don't get all of this hateLouis Wu 1/5/12 3:49 p.m.
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                                         Re: I don't get all of this hateLouis Wu 1/5/12 4:44 p.m.
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                       Re: I don't get all of this hatePhoenix_9286 1/5/12 6:15 p.m.
                             Re: I don't get all of this hateGeneral Vagueness 1/6/12 1:55 a.m.
                 Re: I don't get all of this hateGeneral Vagueness 1/6/12 12:01 a.m.
           Re: I don't get all of this hatepadraig08 1/5/12 2:40 p.m.
     Should arrange the playlists like thisFyreWulff 1/6/12 12:23 p.m.



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