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Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>	Date: 10/15/11 10:39 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list! (Rockslider) : Coping with the boredom you mean? It wouldn't be very much boredom though, : so it's hard to consider that any significant challenge. yeah : I wasn't sure what point you were getting at there, but sure you've got a : good supply of sniper ammo and rockets, which is a big help (unless you : forego them for added challenge of course). In Halo you've likewise got a : good supply of sniper ammo, once a rifle becomes available. I'm saying with all that sniper ammo and all those rockets and several medkits and two AC modules, if you know where things are or take a minute to look, it's not that much harder on foot. It does have more varied scenery that Halo though, if only by a little. : I too suspected that this is why they settled on only four. However, that : high Wraith isn't always problematic. You typically have the opportunity : of destroying it with a few rockets while it's hanging around at the far : right - though it may require a bit of patience for it to appear there. On : a given playthrough it might play hard to get, but mostly you'd have a : decent chance. I think you just hit on the problem-- it relies on chance too much. : Well, I just mean failed in a reality-based sense. Let's suppose you died : along the way - maybe multiple times - but carried on to the end. Ok you : succeeded in the videogame sense, but your character died - which is : generally considered a military failure. You broke the imitation reality : by continuing regardless, so it's success on a relatively artificial : level. Reverting is another reality breaker. I was going to put something about this but I thought "nah, he's not that entrenched". Yes, dying in real life is unpleasant and something to be avoided. : There's significantly more meaning when you maintain the reality all the way through. : I see that as the real form of 'success' for a given level, whereas muddling through : with deaths or reversions is more like a training activity before stepping up to that task : (or is just for a bit of casual fun - which is fine of course). The gaming community at : large doesn't seem to view things that way though, and the practice of dying and : continuing seems like an ingrained part of the culture. I find that a perverse norm, : and it hardly does much to encourage the most skillful gameplay. ... What exactly would you have them do instead? : Are you hinting that developers generally want most achievements to be : reasonably achievable by the majority of casual players? I'm asking as I'm : not familiar with the standards, and don't play many other games (or pay : attention to achievements). I'm hinting they want them to achievable by people who are sane and have lives-- yes, deathless Legendary is quite doable, but it's out of reach of most people's skill level at present or in the near future, and possibly ever.

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Message Index

Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	ElzarTheBam	10/14/11 5:55 p.m.
Holy crap!	The BS Police	10/14/11 6:04 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Ragashingo	10/14/11 6:54 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	uberfoop	10/14/11 7:31 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Quirel	10/14/11 8:04 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Cocopjojo	10/14/11 8:37 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Quirel	10/14/11 8:44 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Gravemind	10/15/11 5:27 a.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Quirel	10/15/11 11:41 a.m.
Re: Holy crap!	SonofMacPhisto	10/15/11 1:02 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Rockslider	10/15/11 4:58 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	Rockslider	10/15/11 5:19 p.m.
Re: Holy crap!	uberfoop	10/15/11 5:29 p.m.
Finally! A Halo game with challenging achievements	bryan newman	10/14/11 6:12 p.m.
does too! *NM*	kornman00	10/14/11 7:21 p.m.
Re: does too!	Quirel	10/14/11 8:06 p.m.
I have 50 of them on the 1st, 56 on the 2nd.	bryan newman	10/14/11 9:47 p.m.
Re: I have 50 of them on the 1st, 56 on the 2nd.	ArteenEsben	10/15/11 6:46 a.m.
enough apparently as I have the achievement *NM*	bryan newman	10/15/11 12:16 p.m.
Most of these can be done in a week too... *NM*	kornman00	10/14/11 9:49 p.m.
Darn you Running the Show! *NM*	Sqorck	10/15/11 9:16 a.m.
Re: Darn you Running the Show!	animam	10/16/11 6:57 p.m.
These are going to be lots of fun. :) *NM*	Postmortem	10/14/11 6:26 p.m.
Best Halo Achievement list?	Hypertrooper	10/14/11 6:42 p.m.
Psh, nothing I haven't done before	ArteenEsben	10/14/11 6:46 p.m.
Walk it off . . .	Jillybean	10/14/11 6:48 p.m.
co-op.	RC Master	10/14/11 6:51 p.m.
Wait... on Keyes...	RC Master	10/14/11 6:49 p.m.
Re: Wait... on Keyes...	Ragashingo	10/14/11 6:55 p.m.
Re: Wait... on Keyes...	Firemist	10/14/11 7:11 p.m.
Re: Wait... on Keyes...	ArteenEsben	10/14/11 7:26 p.m.
I'll Be Taking That	Kermit	10/14/11 7:28 p.m.
Re: Wait... on Keyes...	Firemist	10/14/11 9:54 p.m.
Re: No infinites on Keyes?	davidfuchs	10/14/11 10:36 p.m.
Re: No infinites on Keyes?	ArteenEsben	10/15/11 6:42 a.m.
Re: No infinites on Keyes?	Rockslider	10/15/11 3:09 p.m.
Some of those seem...	Mid7night	10/14/11 7:15 p.m.
Yeah, should have made the lvl complete ones less *NM*	kornman00	10/14/11 7:20 p.m.
Most of the non-hardcore wont get them. *NM*	Sqorck	10/15/11 9:22 a.m.
*Boots Halo CE* *NM*	INSANEdrive	10/14/11 7:45 p.m.
Boring.	uberfoop	10/14/11 7:55 p.m.
Re: Boring.	Revenant1988	10/14/11 9:09 p.m.
Re: Boring.	uberfoop	10/14/11 9:26 p.m.
I know a way to make it more interesting...	RC Master	10/14/11 9:52 p.m.
Wait, cancel the skulls	RC Master	10/14/11 9:53 p.m.
And lets not forget	Serpx	10/14/11 11:10 p.m.
Re: And lets not forget	Quirel	10/15/11 12:16 a.m.
AotCR should've had it's own "How Pedestrian"	Gravemind	10/14/11 8:29 p.m.
Awesome! Also wanting to know...	GrimBrother One	10/14/11 9:27 p.m.
Now THOSE are achievements!	Lurono	10/15/11 1:39 a.m.
"New" skull confirmed, and I looked up "Tsantsa."	Gravemind	10/15/11 5:38 a.m.
Re: "New" skull confirmed, and I looked up "Tsants	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/15/11 9:25 a.m.
Re: "New" skull confirmed, and I looked up "Tsants	FyreWulff	10/15/11 9:26 a.m.
Oooooohhhhhhhh.	Gravemind	10/15/11 11:07 a.m.
CSB time	bluerunner	10/15/11 12:27 p.m.
Are we forgetting?	Bry	10/15/11 8:24 a.m.
Re: Are we forgetting?	Beckx	10/15/11 8:28 a.m.
Re: Are we forgetting?	Bry	10/15/11 8:52 a.m.
I'll just hide behind NsU	Beckx	10/15/11 8:55 a.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Azo 'Galvat	10/15/11 9:28 a.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Moorpheusl9	10/15/11 10:42 a.m.
Actually - on second thoughts - *cancels preorder*	Moorpheusl9	10/15/11 12:59 p.m.
They missed one:	Metalingus627	10/15/11 12:44 p.m.
Re: They missed one:	BlueNinja	10/15/11 5:11 p.m.
Re: They missed one:	uberfoop	10/15/11 5:26 p.m.
Re: They missed one:	BlueNinja	10/15/11 6:13 p.m.
Re: They missed one:	uberfoop	10/15/11 6:19 p.m.
Re: They missed one:	7he grunt w/a plasma pistol	10/15/11 6:22 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/15/11 1:46 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	uberfoop	10/15/11 4:30 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/15/11 5:26 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	General Vagueness	10/15/11 4:24 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	uberfoop	10/15/11 4:58 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/15/11 7:49 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/15/11 7:12 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	General Vagueness	10/15/11 10:39 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/16/11 5:23 a.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	General Vagueness	10/16/11 7:58 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	uberfoop	10/16/11 9:20 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	General Vagueness	10/16/11 10:33 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	ZackDark	10/16/11 10:40 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	General Vagueness	10/17/11 12:19 a.m.
Same...	ZackDark	10/17/11 12:31 a.m.
Re: Same...	Gravemind	10/17/11 4:11 a.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/17/11 2:26 a.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/17/11 2:10 a.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	uberfoop	10/17/11 1:46 p.m.
Re: Halo CE Anniversary achievement list!	Rockslider	10/18/11 10:45 a.m.
It's MISSING a Achievement! Challenge Enclosed	SEspider	10/15/11 8:18 p.m.
A question about one of the achievements	Moorpheusl9	10/17/11 7:38 a.m.
Re: A question about one of the achievements	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/17/11 7:45 a.m.
Either way...	RC Master	10/17/11 9:06 a.m.
Another question....	bluerunner	10/17/11 9:15 a.m.
The cynic in me says....	RC Master	10/17/11 4:55 p.m.
2nd Half.	Morpheus	10/17/11 9:34 a.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	Moorpheusl9	10/17/11 9:36 a.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/17/11 9:44 a.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	Morpheus	10/17/11 11:04 a.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/17/11 11:35 a.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	Moorpheusl9	10/17/11 11:39 a.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	10/17/11 1:09 p.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	uberfoop	10/17/11 3:43 p.m.
Re: 2nd Half.	Morpheus	10/19/11 8:37 a.m.