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Re: No kidding
Posted By: RC Master <rc_master_111@hotmail.com>Date: 7/19/11 6:16 a.m.

In Response To: Re: No kidding (Harmanimus)


: Bargain pricing is based on value, not on a number.

: And given that 7 maps at the current DLC value (3/15USD = 5USD per.) is
: 35USD.

What? Where have you got this number from? *

If I go to your Amazon, I can find 1600msp for $19.75

Thats $9.875 for an 800msp map pack or $3.29167 per map.

So a 7 map DLC pack would be $23.04, not $35!!

Also we have to bear in mind that these are all ports of old maps, which, if you've bought previous Halo games before, you have no only played on, but payed for already. There is limited or no design work involved so it's just artwork.

Also to consider is that some of these maps are already possible through Forge, and indeed some of them have already been made in Forge, including Beaver Creek and Damnation. I can't remember about Beaver Creek but i know that Damnation is already in the classic playlist!

: Halo: Combat Evolved is 1200 points on XBL, which translates to 15USD.

Now your maths seems to be getter better. (9.875*1.5 = $14.8125)

However, like Avateur said, we're not getting everything that is in that package: the multiplayer portion is completely gone.

So if we take Loot's suggestion that MP is worth half the value that that'd be $7.40625 for the campaign.

So 7.40 +23.04 = $30.44

Is the new graphics and sound effects (which, judging from the pre-order trailer sound absolutely awful) plus achievements and terminals really worth an extra $10?

I don't expect I'll watch the terminals more than once, achievements are usually fairly short-lived afairs and as I said before, I don't really think Halo 1 needed just a new graphics update.

So, in short, we're overpaying and it's a no-buy.

*If it's a weird American tax thing I would be happy to repeat the experiment with British prices. In fact I will:

2100msp for 14.99.

An 3 map pack pack at 800msp is 5.71 - 7 maps would be 13.32
The whole of HCE would be: 8.57 - Half of it is: 4.28.

So thats 17.60.

We in the UK are expected to pay nearly DOUBLE that.

In the UK, all prices are quoted with tax already applied, so thats a non-issue.

: And then you have completely new art assets, audio assets, added features and
: content, etc.

Does all that stuff really double the value? I don't believe so, not by a long shot.

So, to reiterate, if this was priced at 20, it might rightfully be considered a bargain and I might pick it up. At it's current price point its not even close.

Of course, this is a rather simplistic way of looking at it, I realise that, but you brought in the argument, not me, and it honestly doesn't stand up under scrutiny.


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H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!TCKaos 7/18/11 8:11 a.m.
     OMG, thank you, that's brings back memories! *NM*Elzarthebam 7/18/11 8:21 a.m.
     Um wow. *NM*The Alpha ELite 7/18/11 8:23 a.m.
     Also you get MC avatar armor for preordering!Elzarthebam 7/18/11 8:28 a.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!The Alpha ELite 7/18/11 8:29 a.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Myyke 7/18/11 8:36 a.m.
           Re:New dialog?hotshot revan 7/18/11 9:53 a.m.
                 not exactlyRevenant1988 7/18/11 10:11 a.m.
                       Oh man, but what if they DO redo dialogue?topleybird 7/18/11 3:58 p.m.
     Just FYI..The Alpha ELite 7/18/11 8:53 a.m.
           Re: So this confirms...hotshot revan 7/18/11 8:55 a.m.
                 How 'exclusive' are we talking here?JDQuackers 7/18/11 8:59 a.m.
                       ^ThisElzarTheBam 7/18/11 9:03 a.m.
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                                                     Re: How 'exclusive' are we talking here?Myyke 7/18/11 9:39 a.m.
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                                               Re: How 'exclusive' are we talking here?DMFanella 7/19/11 7:07 a.m.
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                                                                                   Re: I want cowbell!The Alpha ELite 7/19/11 6:47 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I want cowbell!Bry 7/19/11 8:08 a.m.
                                         Re: I want cowbell!Gravemind 7/18/11 5:04 p.m.
                                         Re: I want cowbell!Bry 7/18/11 5:38 p.m.
                       WOWprofhalo 7/18/11 1:23 p.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!FyreWulff 7/18/11 9:09 a.m.
           Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Bry 7/18/11 9:38 a.m.
                 Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Avateur 7/18/11 9:44 a.m.
                       Re: I'm biting my tongue as well.... *NM*Hedgemony 7/18/11 9:54 a.m.
                       Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Bry 7/18/11 9:59 a.m.
                             Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Leviathan 7/18/11 10:26 a.m.
                                   Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Bry 7/18/11 10:35 a.m.
                       Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Moorpheusl9 7/18/11 10:00 a.m.
                             Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Avateur 7/18/11 10:17 a.m.
                                   The only thing we DO know atm...Moorpheusl9 7/18/11 10:25 a.m.
                                         Re: The only thing we DO know atm...Avateur 7/18/11 11:53 a.m.
                       Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!FyreWulff 7/18/11 11:33 a.m.
                             No kiddingAvateur 7/18/11 11:48 a.m.
                                   Re: No kiddingHarmanimus 7/18/11 12:29 p.m.
                                         Re: No kiddingRC Master 7/18/11 7:39 p.m.
                                               Re: No kiddingHarmanimus 7/19/11 1:32 a.m.
                                                     Re: No kiddingAvateur 7/19/11 2:27 a.m.
                                                           Re: No kiddingThe Loot 7/19/11 3:43 a.m.
                                                     Re: No kiddingRC Master 7/19/11 6:16 a.m.
                                                           Re: No kiddingHarmanimus 7/19/11 6:58 a.m.
                                                                 Re: No kiddingAvateur 7/19/11 9:59 a.m.
                                                           Re: No kiddingGravemind 7/19/11 1:45 p.m.
           ^thisRC Master 7/18/11 7:41 p.m.
     I Foresee A Lot Of Mike Miller-esque Outtakes... *NM*Morpheus 7/18/11 9:28 a.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Moorpheusl9 7/18/11 9:31 a.m.
     halo.xbox.com Official ReleaseJDQuackers 7/18/11 9:32 a.m.
     I have a questionAvateur 7/18/11 9:40 a.m.
           Re: I like that attitude. *NM*The Alpha ELite 7/18/11 9:45 a.m.
                 I try my best sometimes *NM*Avateur 7/18/11 9:47 a.m.
                       Re: I try my best sometimesMacGyver10 7/18/11 10:37 a.m.
           Re: I'm with Avateur *NM*Beckx 7/18/11 11:00 a.m.
           Re: I have a questionserpx 7/18/11 11:28 a.m.
                 Re: I have a questionexcowboy83 7/19/11 5:14 a.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!uberfoop 7/18/11 9:40 a.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Kalamari 7/18/11 9:59 a.m.
           Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!bluerunner 7/18/11 10:15 a.m.
           Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Lurono 7/18/11 6:02 p.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!DEEP NNN 7/18/11 10:21 a.m.
           Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 7/18/11 10:39 a.m.
                 Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!DEEP NNN 7/18/11 3:06 p.m.
                       Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 7/18/11 3:35 p.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!o0MrCheesy0o 7/18/11 10:29 a.m.
     How does this work with Co-Op??Mariachi 7/18/11 10:56 a.m.
           ^Good question. *NM*ElzarTheBam 7/18/11 10:59 a.m.
                 Re: ^Good question.Moorpheusl9 7/18/11 11:04 a.m.
                       ^Like the recon helmetElzarTheBam 7/18/11 11:09 a.m.
                             Re: ^Like the recon helmetMoorpheusl9 7/18/11 11:28 a.m.
                                   Re: ^Like the recon helmetMazz 7/18/11 11:52 a.m.
                                         Re: ^Like the recon helmetMoorpheusl9 7/18/11 12:02 p.m.
                                               Re: ^Like the recon helmetMazz 7/18/11 12:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: ^Like the recon helmetBry 7/18/11 12:31 p.m.
                                                           Re: ^Like the recon helmetMazz 7/18/11 12:49 p.m.
                                               Re: ^Like the recon helmetStephen L. (SoundEffect) 7/18/11 12:47 p.m.
                                                     {; _ ;} *NM*Mazz 7/18/11 12:56 p.m.
                                         Re: ^Like the recon helmetBry 7/18/11 12:28 p.m.
                                               Re: ^Like the recon helmetSonofMacPhisto 7/18/11 1:12 p.m.
                                                     Nope~Bry 7/18/11 2:17 p.m.
                                                           Re: Nope~SonofMacPhisto 7/18/11 2:41 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Nope~Bry 7/18/11 2:58 p.m.
                                                                 Well that's what I call timing...Bry 7/19/11 8:21 a.m.
                                                                       Re: LAMERevenant1988 7/21/11 8:31 a.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!SonofMacPhisto 7/18/11 11:39 a.m.
     How I think this'll work.Gravemind 7/18/11 12:14 p.m.
           Re: How I think this'll work.Lurono 7/18/11 6:37 p.m.
     So when the video first started...SonofMacPhisto 7/18/11 1:09 p.m.
           Re: So when the video first started...Moorpheusl9 7/18/11 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: So when the video first started...SonofMacPhisto 7/18/11 1:28 p.m.
                       Re: So when the video first started...uberfoop 7/18/11 6:01 p.m.
                             Re: So when the video first started...SonofMacPhisto 7/18/11 8:30 p.m.
     I don't like the new sounds. *NM*General Vagueness 7/18/11 5:46 p.m.
     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!General Vagueness 7/19/11 2:19 p.m.
           Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!JDQuackers 7/20/11 4:28 p.m.
                 Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Joshua Allen 7/20/11 4:54 p.m.
                 Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!uberfoop 7/20/11 4:54 p.m.
                       Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!JDQuackers 7/20/11 9:05 p.m.
                             Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!uberfoop 7/21/11 12:29 a.m.
                 Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!General Vagueness 7/20/11 7:30 p.m.
                       Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!JDQuackers 7/20/11 9:28 p.m.
                             Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!General Vagueness 7/20/11 11:24 p.m.
                                   Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Lurono 7/21/11 12:15 a.m.
                                         Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!uberfoop 7/21/11 12:41 a.m.
                                               Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!Lurono 7/21/11 1:18 a.m.
                                                     Re: H:CEA Preorder bonus revealed!uberfoop 7/21/11 11:41 a.m.



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