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Re: I'm interested to know.
Posted By: General Vagueness <General.Vagueness@gmail.com>Date: 6/10/11 6:51 p.m.

In Response To: Re: I'm interested to know. (Narcogen)


: See... I have a problem with that phrase.

: Cortana's use of his name, especially within the context of the phrase
: "It's been an honor serving with you, John" are a sort of
: Rubicon for their relationship. The buildup to that is three games and ten
: years long, from the perspective of the audience.

: "Wake me when you need me" is less an expression of "set the
: alarm for the next sequel" as it is a reaffirmation of the nature of
: the Chief's character and the nature of their relationship. It's a twist
: on the classical knight-errant and damsel in distress theme, where the
: damsel has her own area of expertise, in which she is just as
: supercompetent as the Master Chief is in his; but neither can survive
: without the other.

: That moment is like the moment in a tragic romance where the two leads admit
: to each other than they love each other, but they only do it because
: they're about to die. If the story goes on a minute longer than that, and
: the lead characters don't die, there's an awkward silence and you've
: either crossed over into territory in which the relationship is no longer
: stable, or you've become a comedy.

: In my opinion, the only workable way for the series to continue is to work
: out some kind of emotional cartoon continuity-- they have to pretend it
: didn't happen. If they don't, then I think they have to seriously address
: the nature of that relationship and how that moment changed it-- something
: I frankly do not believe they actually intend to do. I could be wrong, but
: that's not the vibe I get.

: To me, this "wake up" scene needs to be handled with a bit of
: humor, like the opening scene on the Pillar of Autumn, or the scene after
: the Pelican crash near the start of Halo 2. Inserting the MC's first name
: I think is an attempt to borrow some of the emotional weight of Halo 3's
: conclusion in a way I don't believe they intend to actually pay back.

I disagree with you there, I think it's because Cortana's, shall we say, distressed about the ship (or rather part of a ship) they're on blowing up and/or being sucked into a mysterious... thing. I could see, for example, Johnson calling him by his first name in that situation, and it pays to remember Cortana was created from a human brain so she has all the emotions we do.

You cannot fall off the floor.



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I'm interested to know.Chewbeccawacca 6/9/11 9:56 p.m.
     Honestly?Jillybean 6/9/11 10:19 p.m.
           Honesty is appreciated.Chewbeccawacca 6/9/11 10:33 p.m.
           Honestly.Narcogen 6/10/11 7:37 a.m.
                 Pretty much this. *NM*BlueNinja 6/10/11 8:02 a.m.
     Re: I'm interested to see.Hedgemony 6/9/11 11:18 p.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.gunluva 6/9/11 11:30 p.m.
     To be blunt.uberfoop 6/9/11 11:35 p.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.Dagoonite 6/10/11 12:04 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Quirel 6/10/11 1:15 a.m.
                 Re: I'm interested to know.Dagoonite 6/10/11 2:02 a.m.
                       Re: I'm interested to know.Leisandir 6/10/11 2:44 a.m.
           And I just now realized that I still fail at HTML *NM*Dagoonite 6/10/11 2:05 a.m.
                 I'm impressed. You got the replies bolded too. *NM*Quirel 6/10/11 4:24 a.m.
                       Re: I'm impressed. You got the replies bolded too.Dagoonite 6/10/11 5:31 a.m.
                       Argh! My Guestbook! *NM*The Loot 6/10/11 5:34 a.m.
                             Once more for forum sanity. *NM*The Loot 6/10/11 7:20 p.m.
                                   Re: Once more for forum sanity.Dagoonite 6/10/11 9:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Once more for forum sanity.Arithmomaniac 6/10/11 9:45 p.m.
                                               I lied. Try this fix.Arithmomaniac 6/10/11 11:50 p.m.
                                               Re: Once more for forum sanity.Dagoonite 6/11/11 12:30 a.m.
                                                     Re: Once more for forum sanity.7he grunt w/a plasma pistol 6/11/11 12:39 a.m.
                                                           Re: Once more for forum sanity.Dagoonite 6/11/11 2:04 a.m.
                                         That's better. *NM*The Loot 6/10/11 10:33 p.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Narcogen 6/10/11 7:46 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Lurono 6/11/11 3:06 a.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.Leviathan 6/10/11 12:12 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Avateur 6/10/11 12:29 a.m.
           Agreed, whole heartedly! *NM*Dagoonite 6/10/11 1:00 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Quirel 6/10/11 1:36 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.NsU Soldier 6/10/11 4:09 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Narcogen 6/10/11 7:55 a.m.
                 Re: I'm interested to know.Jillybean 6/10/11 11:42 a.m.
                 Another way to look at the line...NsU Soldier 6/10/11 12:55 p.m.
                       Re: Another way to look at the line...Narcogen 6/13/11 5:20 a.m.
                 Re: I'm interested to know.Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 6/10/11 1:40 p.m.
                       Re: I'm interested to know.Leviathan 6/10/11 4:21 p.m.
                       ^ THIS. *NM*Narcogen 6/13/11 5:22 a.m.
                 BZZZZT!Miguel Chavez 6/10/11 3:57 p.m.
                       Re: BZZZZT!Narcogen 6/13/11 5:26 a.m.
                             Re: BZZZZT!Quirel 6/13/11 5:29 a.m.
                                   Re: BZZZZT!Narcogen 6/13/11 5:39 a.m.
                                         Re: BZZZZT!Quirel 6/13/11 6:26 a.m.
                                               *That should be "Throw"Quirel 6/13/11 6:31 a.m.
                                               Re: BZZZZT!Narcogen 6/13/11 10:16 a.m.
                                                     Re: BZZZZT!Quirel 6/13/11 3:58 p.m.
                                                           Re: BZZZZT!Narcogen 6/14/11 7:19 a.m.
                                                     Re: BZZZZT!Cody Miller 6/13/11 6:21 p.m.
                                                           Re: BZZZZT!Cody Miller 6/13/11 6:23 p.m.
                                                                 BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!HunterX11 6/13/11 10:49 p.m.
                                                                       Re: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!General Vagueness 6/14/11 12:28 a.m.
                                                                             Re: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!Narcogen 6/14/11 7:24 a.m.
                                                           Re: BZZZZT!Narcogen 6/14/11 7:24 a.m.
                             Re: BZZZZT!Miguel Chavez 6/13/11 9:07 p.m.
                                   Re: BZZZZT!Beckx 6/13/11 9:15 p.m.
                                         Re: BZZZZT!Quirel 6/13/11 9:51 p.m.
                                               Re: BZZZZT!ZackDark 6/13/11 10:42 p.m.
                                                     Re: BZZZZT!Quirel 6/14/11 1:58 a.m.
                                                           Ah, that sure made me laughZackDark 6/14/11 2:09 a.m.
                                                           Re: BZZZZT!Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 6/14/11 2:51 a.m.
                                   Re: BZZZZT!Narcogen 6/14/11 7:39 a.m.
                                         Re: BZZZZT!Quirel 6/14/11 3:26 p.m.
                                               Re: BZZZZT!Narcogen 6/15/11 7:24 a.m.
                 Re: I'm interested to know.General Vagueness 6/10/11 6:51 p.m.
                       Re: I'm interested to know.Narcogen 6/13/11 5:31 a.m.
                             Re: I'm interested to know.nomis78 6/13/11 7:45 a.m.
                                   Re: I'm interested to know.uberfoop 6/13/11 8:15 a.m.
                                         Re: I'm interested to know.nomis78 6/13/11 8:26 a.m.
                                               Re: I'm interested to know.uberfoop 6/13/11 8:32 a.m.
                                               Re: I'm interested to know.Narcogen 6/13/11 10:19 a.m.
           I'll agree with you there, one hell of an image! *NM*Lurono 6/11/11 3:10 a.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.ArteenEsben 6/10/11 1:08 a.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.Chewbeccawacca 6/10/11 1:16 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Narcogen 6/10/11 8:02 a.m.
                 A Reply. *long*Chewbeccawacca 6/10/11 8:54 p.m.
                       Re: A Reply. *long*Narcogen 6/13/11 5:34 a.m.
     Hell. Yes.Time Glitch 6/10/11 1:18 a.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.The BS Police 6/10/11 1:28 a.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.Quirel 6/10/11 1:36 a.m.
           Re: I'm interested to know.Pebbles 6/10/11 11:13 a.m.
     Re: I'm interested to know.ThorsHammer 6/11/11 4:12 p.m.



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