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Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)
Posted By: Btcc22 <btcc22@touringnet.co.uk>	Date: 6/7/11 11:24 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-) (Frankie) : I think the idea that it's a binary decision is faulty. We didnt say, : "THIS CANNOT BE DONE" or "THIS ONE IS BETTER" we : simply evaluated our options, the time we had, the technological problems, : the relative compromises involved, and a million other factors, and came : to a logical decision. : If we were certain that everyone would be happy with it, one way or the : other, it wouldn't have been a difficult decision. This is a very complex : product, with a lot of moving parts, and we had to execute correctly on a : complex plan. : Would a LARGE subset of Halo fans like a CE MP remaster? Of course. That's : not the issue. The issue is the hundreds of other pieces of a very big : puzzle. : Funnily enough, GhaleonEB of all people, fell on a strange side of the : "purity" map by pointing out that he did in fact wat some : updates to the Campaign mode - vehicle boarding and a couple of other : "modern" features. : Halo Anniversary as a package is a celebration of 10 years of Halo, and that : includes a lot of different types of fans and tastes. : And netcode for co-op is actually radically different than MP. They are not : the same beast. : This isn't supposed to sound argumentative, there's no argument really. It's : just a description of the process and problem spaces something as complex : as this creates. I think the issue that many of us have with your argument against MP not being the same over Live or the pistol being too powerful for Live is that we've had it over XBC and we've had it through Halo PC for the best part of 8 years now. Neither are an exact replica of how it plays over system link but that's not important to the majority of us. If you've played Halo PC and I'm sure you have (at least briefly), it'd be pretty difficult to produce worse netcode than we've grown accustomed to. It plays differently than system link, sure, though essentially it's the same experience that we enjoyed on the Xbox over system link, if not better. My point is that it didn't need to be a perfect remake of the system link multiplayer and I'm sure in 2011 you could have provided a much better experience than XBC or Halo PC with its 56k target netcode can offer. Although we're not privy to the details, 'technological issues' just makes me believe that nobody wanted to create a matchmaking and statistics system for the game. If it was somehow related to the graphics engine, I'm sure most of us would have accepted the original engine but with netcode thrown in.

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Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	GrimBrother One	6/6/11 9:12 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	TDSpiral	6/6/11 9:13 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	katancik	6/7/11 12:54 a.m.
I guess I'm a just very visual person...	Leviathan	6/6/11 9:21 p.m.
Better than the one in the HA trailer...	ZackDark	6/6/11 9:24 p.m.
Doesn't make it any better.	Quirel	6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
Re: Doesn't make it any better.	General Battuta	6/6/11 11:08 p.m.
Re: Doesn't make it any better.	Quirel	6/7/11 12:11 a.m.
This^ made me chuckle. *NM*	Vandle Valsher	6/7/11 7:02 a.m.
Good	Quirel	6/7/11 10:14 a.m.
Yeah, MC looked fugly	Gilver	6/6/11 9:33 p.m.
Re: Yeah, MC looked fugly	Lurono	6/6/11 10:11 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ZackDark	6/6/11 9:22 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	DEEP NNN	6/6/11 9:48 p.m.
Time to dust off the Mister Chief!	Schedonnardus	6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	snakegriffin	6/6/11 9:30 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	SPARTAN-034	6/6/11 9:39 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ZackDark	6/6/11 9:45 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Sep7imus [subnova]	6/6/11 10:52 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	SPU7N1K	6/6/11 9:32 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	frankie	6/6/11 9:42 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Leviathan	6/6/11 9:44 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Quirel	6/6/11 9:54 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-	INSANEdrive	6/6/11 10:00 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-	Buttskunk	6/6/11 10:06 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	TDSpiral	6/6/11 10:08 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Pkmnrulz240	6/6/11 10:20 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	SPU7N1K	6/6/11 11:15 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	goCHIEFgo	6/7/11 8:50 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Pkmnrulz240	6/6/11 10:09 p.m.
Halo PC map included?	DarkS7G	6/6/11 10:38 p.m.
Re: Halo PC map included?	Hunt3r	6/6/11 10:45 p.m.
My guess... Death Island! *NM*	The BS Police	6/6/11 10:49 p.m.
Re: Halo PC map included?	elessar787	6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
Re: Halo PC map included?	DogCow	6/8/11 4:50 p.m.
this brought me back, baby.	Hunt3r	6/6/11 10:44 p.m.
Re: this brought me back, baby.	MaCeGaC	6/6/11 10:51 p.m.
Re: this brought me back, baby.	DHalo	6/6/11 11:04 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Frankie	6/6/11 11:36 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	NOKYARD	6/6/11 11:59 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 12:41 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	shadow8p	6/7/11 2:44 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 12:12 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 12:52 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 1:00 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Lurono	6/7/11 3:34 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/9/11 1:05 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Lurono	6/9/11 2:00 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/9/11 6:52 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/9/11 7:21 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/10/11 6:03 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/10/11 11:50 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/10/11 7:40 p.m.
We need to talk, Frank.	Gravemind	6/7/11 2:52 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Narcogen	6/7/11 3:12 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Gravemind	6/7/11 3:40 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Narcogen	6/7/11 4:24 a.m.
Pssst...	Wayward Spleen™	6/7/11 7:03 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Miguel Chavez	6/7/11 9:37 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Wayward Spleen™	6/7/11 10:27 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Gravemind	6/7/11 11:51 a.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Wayward Spleen™	6/7/11 12:34 p.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	mnemesis	6/7/11 12:53 p.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Dagoonite	6/7/11 9:09 p.m.
Re: We need to talk, Frank.	Narcogen	6/8/11 1:45 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Btcc22	6/7/11 11:24 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Dundre	6/8/11 2:12 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	DogCow	6/8/11 4:18 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 12:49 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 1:09 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 2:20 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 2:33 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 3:22 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 4:33 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 7:06 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/9/11 11:27 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Wayward Spleen™	6/9/11 11:58 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Dagoonite	6/7/11 1:56 a.m.
Re: FIREFIGHT mention	ChrisTheeCrappy	6/6/11 11:28 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/6/11 11:50 p.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 12:57 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Cody Miller	6/7/11 1:02 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 2:23 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/9/11 11:13 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 1:03 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 2:31 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 3:25 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	The Loot	6/7/11 3:37 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 4:32 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	Narcogen	6/7/11 4:31 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	ghost faction	6/7/11 5:17 a.m.
Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)	General Vagueness	6/8/11 11:44 a.m.
LMAO.	Hitmonchan107	6/7/11 12:20 a.m.