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Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 6/7/11 4:31 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-) (ghost faction)


: I was trying to use your analogy and a lot got lost in translation

: At this point "baseball" (H1 MP online) isn't an option because it
: doesn't exist. The only choice is "football" (Reach). Now just
: because recess on Monday is "football" doesn't mean that we
: can't play "baseball" on Tuesday.

It does mean that if 1) You don't have enough players in total for both games to run simultaneously; 2) the players will not spontaneously decide to all play one game or another, and 3) there is no external force to compel players to play football on Monday and baseball on Tuesday.

This is the line of thinking that gave rise to playlists. The playlists allow Bungie to assemble the players and then dictate what game will be played, within certain constraints. Outside of customs, players are not able to determine exactly what game is played on exactly what map-- they aren't allowed to take over the entire playground.

Having yet another Halo title (in addition to H3, still supported, and Reach, recently released) with incompatible multiplayer is like adding another option. All other things being equal, people would tend to fragment into ever smaller groups until everyone is trying to play what they want, but nobody can actually play it because there aren't enough players.

I don't mean that no one can play anything. I mean that matchmmaking no longer works effectively because that depends on having large enough populations to work on.

If Anniversary's population is too small to impact Reach/H3, then by definition its probably not cost-effective to implement and support. If it IS large enough to impact Reach/H3, then it is likely to have a larger negative impact on the populations of those two games than it has a positive impact on its own online play due to economies of scale.

: If it was still possible to find a match in Halo 2 during Reach's prime, I
: don't think that a Halo 1 remake is going to suck up 100% of the Halo
: population.

I don't think "possible to find a match" is the standard they want to use for "efficient operation of matchmaking".

Also, that's false, because Halo 2 was shut down before Reach ever launched.

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Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)GrimBrother One 6/6/11 9:12 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)TDSpiral 6/6/11 9:13 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)katancik 6/7/11 12:54 a.m.
     I guess I'm a just very visual person...Leviathan 6/6/11 9:21 p.m.
           Better than the one in the HA trailer...ZackDark 6/6/11 9:24 p.m.
                 Doesn't make it any better.Quirel 6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
                       Re: Doesn't make it any better.General Battuta 6/6/11 11:08 p.m.
                             Re: Doesn't make it any better.Quirel 6/7/11 12:11 a.m.
                                   This^ made me chuckle. *NM*Vandle Valsher 6/7/11 7:02 a.m.
                                         GoodQuirel 6/7/11 10:14 a.m.
                 Yeah, MC looked fuglyGilver 6/6/11 9:33 p.m.
                       Re: Yeah, MC looked fuglyLurono 6/6/11 10:11 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ZackDark 6/6/11 9:22 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)DEEP NNN 6/6/11 9:48 p.m.
     Time to dust off the Mister Chief!Schedonnardus 6/6/11 9:26 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)snakegriffin 6/6/11 9:30 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)SPARTAN-034 6/6/11 9:39 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ZackDark 6/6/11 9:45 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Sep7imus [subnova] 6/6/11 10:52 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)SPU7N1K 6/6/11 9:32 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)frankie 6/6/11 9:42 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Leviathan 6/6/11 9:44 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Quirel 6/6/11 9:54 p.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-INSANEdrive 6/6/11 10:00 p.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With ... -video-Buttskunk 6/6/11 10:06 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)TDSpiral 6/6/11 10:08 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Pkmnrulz240 6/6/11 10:20 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)SPU7N1K 6/6/11 11:15 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)goCHIEFgo 6/7/11 8:50 a.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Pkmnrulz240 6/6/11 10:09 p.m.
     Halo PC map included?DarkS7G 6/6/11 10:38 p.m.
           Re: Halo PC map included?Hunt3r 6/6/11 10:45 p.m.
           My guess... Death Island! *NM*The BS Police 6/6/11 10:49 p.m.
           Re: Halo PC map included?elessar787 6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
           Re: Halo PC map included?DogCow 6/8/11 4:50 p.m.
     this brought me back, baby.Hunt3r 6/6/11 10:44 p.m.
           Re: this brought me back, baby.MaCeGaC 6/6/11 10:51 p.m.
                 Re: this brought me back, baby.DHalo 6/6/11 11:04 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/6/11 11:07 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Frankie 6/6/11 11:36 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)NOKYARD 6/6/11 11:59 p.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 12:41 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)shadow8p 6/7/11 2:44 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 12:12 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 12:52 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 1:00 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Lurono 6/7/11 3:34 p.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/9/11 1:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Lurono 6/9/11 2:00 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/9/11 6:52 p.m.
                                               Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/9/11 7:21 p.m.
                                                     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/10/11 6:03 a.m.
                                                           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/10/11 11:50 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/10/11 7:40 p.m.
                 We need to talk, Frank.Gravemind 6/7/11 2:52 a.m.
                       Re: We need to talk, Frank.Narcogen 6/7/11 3:12 a.m.
                             Re: We need to talk, Frank.Gravemind 6/7/11 3:40 a.m.
                                   Re: We need to talk, Frank.Narcogen 6/7/11 4:24 a.m.
                                   Pssst...Wayward Spleen™ 6/7/11 7:03 a.m.
                                   Re: We need to talk, Frank.Miguel Chavez 6/7/11 9:37 a.m.
                                         Re: We need to talk, Frank.Wayward Spleen™ 6/7/11 10:27 a.m.
                                         Re: We need to talk, Frank.Gravemind 6/7/11 11:51 a.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.Wayward Spleen™ 6/7/11 12:34 p.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.mnemesis 6/7/11 12:53 p.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.Dagoonite 6/7/11 9:09 p.m.
                                               Re: We need to talk, Frank.Narcogen 6/8/11 1:45 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Btcc22 6/7/11 11:24 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Dundre 6/8/11 2:12 p.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)DogCow 6/8/11 4:18 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 12:49 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 1:09 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 2:20 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 2:33 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 3:22 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 4:33 a.m.
                                               Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 7:06 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/9/11 11:27 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Wayward Spleen™ 6/9/11 11:58 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Dagoonite 6/7/11 1:56 a.m.
     Re: FIREFIGHT mentionChrisTheeCrappy 6/6/11 11:28 p.m.
     Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/6/11 11:50 p.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 12:57 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Cody Miller 6/7/11 1:02 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 2:23 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/9/11 11:13 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 1:03 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 2:31 a.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 3:25 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)The Loot 6/7/11 3:37 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 4:32 a.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)Narcogen 6/7/11 4:31 a.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)ghost faction 6/7/11 5:17 a.m.
           Re: Frankie's Back. With an update ;-)General Vagueness 6/8/11 11:44 a.m.
     LMAO.Hitmonchan107 6/7/11 12:20 a.m.



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