glyphstrip FAQ button
Halo.bungie.org
glyphstrip
Frequently Asked Forum Questions
 Search the HBO News Archives

Any All Exact 
Search the Halo Updates DBs

Halo Halo2 
Search Older Posts on This Forum:
Posts on Current Forum | Archived Posts


Re: Nice post.
Posted By: FyreWulff <mkidder@gmail.com>Date: 2/27/11 9:38 a.m.

In Response To: Nice post. (Gravemind)


: There's just one thing, though.

: While the current system is an improvement over the old 1-50 system, it has
: some large flaws. Now instead of a black market run by cheaters, we have a
: system that rewards various forms of griefing and boosting.

: Players get
: very little in the way of credits for winning games, which is a big part
: of the problem. The bulk of their credits come from game completion
: bonuses (primarily a function of time spent in a game), commendations, and
: challenges

This is an issue they can still fix and is not directly tied into the ranking system itself.

. This is where you get problems like AKFers in Firefight,
: people resetting challenges, or people deliberately running the clock out
: in objectives so they can continually spawn camp with the Banshee.

This happened all the time in Halo 3, so people could boost their K/D ratio on their Bungie.net records page or Halocharts... you've probably seen me bitch about "flag holding" in Halo 3 many times, and it's the reason I stopped playing SWAT (besides the hostbooting, the flag holding happened every single game), and it's part of the reason why new players stay away from objective in 3 and Reach is due to objective holding. They did this before cR and will do it afterwards, until K/D is taken out of objective.

: Credit
: aquisition, like ranking up, is many player's primary focus, and many will
: try to exploit the system any way they can. Ranks and player investment
: systems will always influence they way many people play and even give
: incentive for some to engage in various behaviors that aren't exactly
: kosher.

However, these are more detectable as players establish a pattern of behavior. Halo 2 had no AFK detection and AFK was in there a lot. Halo 3 had nothing, and then in TU2 they added the ability to detect rubber banded controllers. Reach is even better at detecting idling, but not perfect, but they could still (in theory) work on AFK detection improvements.

People that just fully party boost credits though, ruin the fun for themselves. I like to see how my commendations and rank progress organically, so I can have an idea of what kind of player I am. I'll get that Haunted helmet eventually - in fact, I'll unlock all armor eventually, so when I shop in the armory it's more what I want to wear now.

These guys are killing themselves over getting to Inheritor when Bungie will be increasing the payouts over time and we'll actually eventually put less time in-game overall in achieving Haunted than the boosters will have.

fyrewulff dot com


Message Index



Replies:

Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/26/11 3:25 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orPkmnrulz240 2/26/11 3:42 p.m.
     Excellent, excellent post *NM*mr_mcmurder 2/26/11 4:00 p.m.
     I agree with your opinion, good sir.snakegriffin 2/26/11 4:10 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orHyokin 2/26/11 4:14 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orZackDark 2/26/11 4:15 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orKalamariKidd 2/26/11 4:46 p.m.
     I don't play Arena...munky-058 2/26/11 4:54 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:00 p.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orGrimBrother One 2/26/11 5:05 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orLouis Wu 2/26/11 5:07 p.m.
                       Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:13 p.m.
                             Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDani 2/26/11 6:34 p.m.
                                   Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/26/11 6:53 p.m.
                                   Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 7:02 p.m.
                                         Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDani 2/26/11 9:05 p.m.
                       Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orbluerunner 2/26/11 7:36 p.m.
                             Ranksdogcom 2/26/11 7:53 p.m.
                                   Re: RanksDEEP NNN 2/26/11 8:05 p.m.
                                         Re: RanksFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:08 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:09 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orvlad3163 2/26/11 10:10 p.m.
     But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/26/11 6:41 p.m.
           Re: But CR = Idlers ParadiseFyreWulff 2/26/11 7:05 p.m.
                 Re: But CR = Idlers ParadiseFyreWulff 2/26/11 7:15 p.m.
                 Re: But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/27/11 4:34 a.m.
                       Re: But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/27/11 5:04 a.m.
     PS. Fyrefulff, Gr1m?munky-058 2/26/11 6:46 p.m.
           Re: PS. Fyrefulff, Gr1m?FyreWulff 2/26/11 7:45 p.m.
                 Fyrefluff? That's OUSTANDING!munky-058 2/26/11 8:02 p.m.
     Nicedogcom 2/26/11 7:57 p.m.
     I actually read the whole thing. *NM*SonGoharotto 2/26/11 8:11 p.m.
           Bleep Bloop *NM*FyreWulff 2/26/11 8:12 p.m.
     Sup Devin OlsenFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:12 p.m.
           Re: Sup Devin OlsenDevin Olsen 2/26/11 8:37 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:47 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenSonGoharotto 2/26/11 9:04 p.m.
                       Re: Sup Devin OlsenArteenEsben 2/26/11 9:33 p.m.
                             Re: Sup Devin OlsenDevin Olsen 2/26/11 9:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Sup Devin Olsenmunky-058 2/26/11 10:09 p.m.
                                         Re: Sup Devin OlsenSonGoharotto 2/27/11 8:31 a.m.
                                   Re: Sup Devin OlsenGeneral Vagueness 2/26/11 10:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Sup Devin OlsenHawaiian Pig 2/27/11 4:33 p.m.
                                               Re: Sup Devin OlsenHawaiian Pig 2/27/11 4:37 p.m.
                                                     Re: Sup Devin OlsenGeneral Vagueness 2/27/11 5:52 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenBlueNinja 2/27/11 5:56 a.m.
     Nice post.Gravemind 2/27/11 2:44 a.m.
           Re: Nice post.DEEP NNN 2/27/11 8:20 a.m.
                 Re: Nice post.BlueNinja 2/27/11 9:49 a.m.
                       Re: Nice post.FyreWulff 2/27/11 10:07 a.m.
                             Re: Nice post.BlueNinja 2/27/11 12:00 p.m.
                             Re: Nice post.Gravemind 2/27/11 12:32 p.m.
           Re: Nice post.FyreWulff 2/27/11 9:38 a.m.
                 if you flag hold on my teamkidtsunami 2/27/11 3:37 p.m.
                       Re: if you flag hold on my teamFyreWulff 2/27/11 4:15 p.m.
                             ^ I have the same mindset as you two.NsU Soldier 2/27/11 7:33 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orZogen 2/27/11 4:29 a.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orzonemanwilf 2/27/11 4:42 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/27/11 9:07 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/27/11 10:05 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orKalamariKidd 2/27/11 10:17 a.m.
     Some notes....RC Master 2/27/11 11:09 a.m.
           Re: Some notes....FyreWulff 2/27/11 11:47 a.m.
                 Re: Some notes....RC Master 2/28/11 9:28 a.m.
                       Re: Some notes....FyreWulff 2/28/11 10:01 a.m.
     Wholeheartedly agree *NM*kidtsunami 2/28/11 12:05 a.m.



contact us

The HBO Forum Archive is maintained with WebBBS 4.33.