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Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. or
Posted By: DEEP NNN <deep_nnn@hotmail.com>Date: 2/27/11 9:07 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. or (zonemanwilf)


: All well and good, I tend to agree with the principles of 90% of what you
: write.

: However, the Arena ranking system has been rejected by the community. Just
: look at the population. The acid test for anything in a marketplace is the
: demand for it. Hardly anyone wants to play the Arena ranking system
: compared to those who preferred 1-50.

: It has failed. I hope the incoming changes will reverse this situation, but I
: have my doubts.

: The Halo 3 Team Slayer ranked list has a higher population than Reach Team
: Arena - right now. That is not a healthy position for Reach.

: This reason for this lack of population in my eyes is to do with the seasons.
: I fully agree that the season system by far reduces the impact of
: boosters, account sellers etc. But, the legit players who like playing
: with a competitive edge now have their progress reset every month (or 3
: months shortly), and it creates a big disincentive for them to play it.

: Personally I would do away with seasons altogether and intruduce an
: 'idleness' penalty. Where say you need to play 10 matches every 2 weeks to
: maintain whatever division you are ranked in.

: Something needs doing, because Reach's only ranked playlist should be canned
: if you look at the population and what Bungie have done with playlists
: with similar populations in the past.

: In summary, whilst in theory the Arena ranking system makes sense above the
: old 1-50, it has been rejected by the player population.

What is your measure of a failure? What numbers does it take to succeed?

If you look at the number of players "currently playing" in each list it would give reference.

If your measure of a failure for ARENA are its numbers then wouldn't similar numbers indicate a failure for other playlists? I think you must be incorrect because otherwise Firefight Unlimited, MLG, Team Objective, Score Attack, Co-op Campaign and Noble Map Pack are also failures. I do not see those playlists as failures but rather as alternatives to go to.

A playlist like ARENA only needs enough players to make it function. Nothing more.

Has the overall REACH population suffered for people leaving the game because ARENA wasn't good enough for them to stay? I don't know. Where are the numbers for that? Without them there is no way of knowing.

These numbers were collected around 10 Eastern I might be off on the time a bit.
NOBLE MAP PACK 2,053 Players
GRIFBALL 3,723 Players
FIREFIGHT LIMITED 606 Players
FIREFIGHT ARCADE 5,329 Players
RUMBLE PIT 7,252 Players
LIVING DEAD 7,164 Players
TEAM SLAYER 17,183 Players
MLG 1,668 Players
TEAM SWAT 13,971 Players
TEAM SNIPERS 5,440 Players
TEAM OBJECTIVE 1,454 Players
MULTI TEAM 3,706 Players
BIG TEAM BATTLE 10,758 Players
INVASION 5,566 Players
SCORE ATTACK 1,481 Players
CO-OP CAMPAIGN 823 Players
TEAM ARENA 996 Players
DOUBLES ARENA 1,687 Players
FFA ARENA 179 Players


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Replies:

Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/26/11 3:25 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orPkmnrulz240 2/26/11 3:42 p.m.
     Excellent, excellent post *NM*mr_mcmurder 2/26/11 4:00 p.m.
     I agree with your opinion, good sir.snakegriffin 2/26/11 4:10 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orHyokin 2/26/11 4:14 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orZackDark 2/26/11 4:15 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orKalamariKidd 2/26/11 4:46 p.m.
     I don't play Arena...munky-058 2/26/11 4:54 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:00 p.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orGrimBrother One 2/26/11 5:05 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orLouis Wu 2/26/11 5:07 p.m.
                       Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:13 p.m.
                             Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDani 2/26/11 6:34 p.m.
                                   Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/26/11 6:53 p.m.
                                   Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 7:02 p.m.
                                         Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDani 2/26/11 9:05 p.m.
                       Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orbluerunner 2/26/11 7:36 p.m.
                             Ranksdogcom 2/26/11 7:53 p.m.
                                   Re: RanksDEEP NNN 2/26/11 8:05 p.m.
                                         Re: RanksFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:08 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/26/11 5:09 p.m.
                 Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orvlad3163 2/26/11 10:10 p.m.
     But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/26/11 6:41 p.m.
           Re: But CR = Idlers ParadiseFyreWulff 2/26/11 7:05 p.m.
                 Re: But CR = Idlers ParadiseFyreWulff 2/26/11 7:15 p.m.
                 Re: But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/27/11 4:34 a.m.
                       Re: But CR = Idlers Paradisesharpsniper99 2/27/11 5:04 a.m.
     PS. Fyrefulff, Gr1m?munky-058 2/26/11 6:46 p.m.
           Re: PS. Fyrefulff, Gr1m?FyreWulff 2/26/11 7:45 p.m.
                 Fyrefluff? That's OUSTANDING!munky-058 2/26/11 8:02 p.m.
     Nicedogcom 2/26/11 7:57 p.m.
     I actually read the whole thing. *NM*SonGoharotto 2/26/11 8:11 p.m.
           Bleep Bloop *NM*FyreWulff 2/26/11 8:12 p.m.
     Sup Devin OlsenFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:12 p.m.
           Re: Sup Devin OlsenDevin Olsen 2/26/11 8:37 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenFyreWulff 2/26/11 8:47 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenSonGoharotto 2/26/11 9:04 p.m.
                       Re: Sup Devin OlsenArteenEsben 2/26/11 9:33 p.m.
                             Re: Sup Devin OlsenDevin Olsen 2/26/11 9:52 p.m.
                                   Re: Sup Devin Olsenmunky-058 2/26/11 10:09 p.m.
                                         Re: Sup Devin OlsenSonGoharotto 2/27/11 8:31 a.m.
                                   Re: Sup Devin OlsenGeneral Vagueness 2/26/11 10:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Sup Devin OlsenHawaiian Pig 2/27/11 4:33 p.m.
                                               Re: Sup Devin OlsenHawaiian Pig 2/27/11 4:37 p.m.
                                                     Re: Sup Devin OlsenGeneral Vagueness 2/27/11 5:52 p.m.
                 Re: Sup Devin OlsenBlueNinja 2/27/11 5:56 a.m.
     Nice post.Gravemind 2/27/11 2:44 a.m.
           Re: Nice post.DEEP NNN 2/27/11 8:20 a.m.
                 Re: Nice post.BlueNinja 2/27/11 9:49 a.m.
                       Re: Nice post.FyreWulff 2/27/11 10:07 a.m.
                             Re: Nice post.BlueNinja 2/27/11 12:00 p.m.
                             Re: Nice post.Gravemind 2/27/11 12:32 p.m.
           Re: Nice post.FyreWulff 2/27/11 9:38 a.m.
                 if you flag hold on my teamkidtsunami 2/27/11 3:37 p.m.
                       Re: if you flag hold on my teamFyreWulff 2/27/11 4:15 p.m.
                             ^ I have the same mindset as you two.NsU Soldier 2/27/11 7:33 p.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orZogen 2/27/11 4:29 a.m.
     Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orzonemanwilf 2/27/11 4:42 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orDEEP NNN 2/27/11 9:07 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orFyreWulff 2/27/11 10:05 a.m.
           Re: Why We Should Never Go Back to 1-50.. orKalamariKidd 2/27/11 10:17 a.m.
     Some notes....RC Master 2/27/11 11:09 a.m.
           Re: Some notes....FyreWulff 2/27/11 11:47 a.m.
                 Re: Some notes....RC Master 2/28/11 9:28 a.m.
                       Re: Some notes....FyreWulff 2/28/11 10:01 a.m.
     Wholeheartedly agree *NM*kidtsunami 2/28/11 12:05 a.m.



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