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Re: Rebetrayability
Posted By: uberfoop <atkinso2@seattleu.edu>Date: 2/21/11 12:31 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Rebetrayability (Narcogen)


: True, which is why I actually didn't bring up weapon variety at all. I'd say
: that variety in available vehicles has a lot more impact. While AI driving
: is often unreliable and unpredictable, what we want in the desert island
: scenario is replayability, and uncertainty certainly raises that.

I'm not entirely sure I agree. I want dynamic and complex, not random.

: The boarding function also adds a lot to the variety, because the player
: approach to destroying a vehicle is very different from trying to take it
: intact.

It adds a little, but for me not much more than a very small finite amount. Given any particular vehicle controlled by an AI in Halo 3, and there are, I've found, a couple of specific and very formulaic ways to steal it. Hijacking doesn't really get all that interesting, IMO, until you get into multiplayer, where you get to psycologically mess with actual human beings.

: Starting with Halo 3 you also have the easy access to skulls which further
: modify the game experience, which gives you access to difficulty levels
: higher than legendary, which is something you can't recreate in Halo 1
: without the use of honor rules-- say, by voluntarily avoiding power
: weapons.

Sure, but honor rules and skulls are both artificial and arbitrary.

: The only thing you ever have to do against Flood in H1 is camp around a
: corner with a shotgun. The only exception to this rule is rocket flood.
: Sure, you can use the plasma weapons against them and they work well, but
: only if you've got no shotgun, pistol, or RL.

In some cases this is somewhat true, but I've found that the flood often close so quickly that this isn't viable and you get crushed. In my experience, flood combat in Halo CE at its best is actually a very interesting sort of dance. At least, that's how I play The Library, and I've tended to die very little on recent playthroughs.

//=======

I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree; what I do know is that, while The Ark and The Covenant got a whole lot of playthroughs from me, they've lost some of their luster, while the Halo CE greats still feel (well, almost) fresh as ever.

GT=sdnomdE



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So you're on a desert island:Jillybean 2/20/11 2:37 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Leviathan 2/20/11 2:45 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Moorpheusl9 2/20/11 2:46 p.m.
           Re: So you're on a desert island:Leviathan 2/20/11 2:48 p.m.
                 Re: So you're on a desert island:Moorpheusl9 2/20/11 2:52 p.m.
           Re: So you're on a desert island:Jillybean 2/20/11 3:19 p.m.
                 Re: So you're on a desert island:Schedonnardus 2/20/11 10:02 p.m.
                       Re: So you're on a desert island:ZackDark 2/20/11 10:05 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:ZackDark 2/20/11 3:12 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 2/20/11 3:14 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:NsU Soldier 2/20/11 3:19 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:padraig08 2/20/11 3:21 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Captain Spark 2/20/11 3:22 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/20/11 3:26 p.m.
     Two Betrayalsuberfoop 2/20/11 3:27 p.m.
           Well if you've got dibs on that, I'll take The MawHawaiian Pig 2/20/11 4:17 p.m.
                 Re: Well if you've got dibs on that, I'll take TheHawaiian Pig 2/20/11 9:20 p.m.
                       Re: Well if you've got dibs on that, I'll take TheZackDark 2/20/11 9:25 p.m.
                             Re: Well if you've got dibs on that, I'll take TheHawaiian Pig 2/20/11 9:34 p.m.
           RebetrayabilityNarcogen 2/20/11 10:59 p.m.
                 Re: Rebetrayabilityuberfoop 2/20/11 11:48 p.m.
                       Re: RebetrayabilityNarcogen 2/21/11 12:10 a.m.
                             Re: Rebetrayabilityuberfoop 2/21/11 12:31 a.m.
                                   Re: RebetrayabilityNarcogen 2/21/11 5:53 a.m.
                                         Re: Rebetrayabilityuberfoop 2/21/11 1:04 p.m.
                             Re: RebetrayabilityHawaiian Pig 2/21/11 3:16 a.m.
                                   Re: RebetrayabilityNarcogen 2/21/11 5:55 a.m.
                                   Put the rear of the Ghost through the doorscarab 2/21/11 10:55 a.m.
                                         Re: Put the rear of the Ghost through the doorHawaiian Pig 2/22/11 9:33 a.m.
                                               Re: Put the rear of the Ghost through the doorGeneral Vagueness 2/22/11 5:17 p.m.
                                                     Re: Put the rear of the Ghost through the doorHawaiian Pig 2/22/11 6:43 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:kornman00 2/20/11 3:34 p.m.
     AOTCR, Always & Forever. :) *NM*Bones153 2/20/11 3:44 p.m.
     Subconscious "Two Betrayals" response. *NM*cardo 8 atl 2/20/11 3:47 p.m.
     The Covenantkidtsunami 2/20/11 4:03 p.m.
     GuessBry 2/20/11 4:08 p.m.
           Re: GuessCaptain Spark 2/20/11 4:42 p.m.
                 Re: GuessSonofMacPhisto 2/20/11 6:32 p.m.
                 Classy.BlueNinja 2/20/11 6:40 p.m.
                 Hey now...GrimBrother One 2/20/11 7:10 p.m.
                       Stuntmutt would be proud. *NM*BlueNinja 2/21/11 2:26 a.m.
                       Once Bry's done with 'em, the Covies disagree. *NM*SonofMacPhisto 2/21/11 10:41 a.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:grantix 2/20/11 4:43 p.m.
     AotCR. Best. Stage. Ever. *NM*Gravemind 2/20/11 4:51 p.m.
     AOTCR, easily!Rockslider 2/20/11 4:52 p.m.
     Two Betrayals *NM*Avateur 2/20/11 5:06 p.m.
     Silent Cartographer or AotCR *NM*SonGoharotto 2/20/11 5:42 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Beckx 2/20/11 6:06 p.m.
           Re: So you're on a desert island:Metalingus627 2/20/11 6:16 p.m.
     I wouldn't bring any.iMonkey777 2/20/11 6:17 p.m.
           Re: I wouldn't bring any.Jillybean 2/21/11 12:36 p.m.
                 Re: I wouldn't bring any.Lobster 2/21/11 8:22 p.m.
     Would I lose friends if I said...thebruce0 2/20/11 6:44 p.m.
           BAN HIM NAO! lol j/k :P *NM*Moorpheusl9 2/20/11 6:55 p.m.
           Re: Would I lose friends if I said...SonofMacPhisto 2/20/11 7:01 p.m.
                 Re: Would I lose friends if I said...thebruce0 2/20/11 7:20 p.m.
                 Re: Would I lose friends if I said...Lobster 2/20/11 7:21 p.m.
                       Re: Would I lose friends if I said...thebruce0 2/20/11 7:32 p.m.
                             Re: Would I lose friends if I said...Jillybean 2/21/11 12:39 p.m.
                                   Re: Would I lose friends if I said...SonofMacPhisto 2/21/11 1:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Would I lose friends if I said...Jillybean 2/21/11 1:32 p.m.
                                               LOUD NOISES *NM*thebruce0 2/21/11 1:55 p.m.
                                               Re: Would I lose friends if I said...Narcogen 2/21/11 10:29 p.m.
                       Not gonna lie...Moorpheusl9 2/20/11 7:48 p.m.
                             This :) *NM*thebruce0 2/20/11 7:52 p.m.
                             ...I'm gonna make it hurt. *NM*Beckx 2/20/11 7:59 p.m.
                             Days? I shut it off for weeks. True story. *NM*ZackDark 2/20/11 8:49 p.m.
                             Re: Not gonna lie...Lurono 2/21/11 12:45 a.m.
           Re: Would I lose friends if I said...uberfoop 2/20/11 8:20 p.m.
                 Re: Would I lose friends if I said...thebruce0 2/20/11 10:09 p.m.
                       Re: Would I lose friends if I said...Rockslider 2/21/11 5:02 p.m.
                             Re: Would I lose friends if I said...thebruce0 2/21/11 11:29 p.m.
                                   Re: Would I lose friends if I said...SonofMacPhisto 2/22/11 9:33 a.m.
                 Re: Would I lose friends if I said...Lobster 2/21/11 8:28 p.m.
           Underrated stage is underrated.Gravemind 2/20/11 11:16 p.m.
           I'm going to have to go with . . .cheapLEY 2/20/11 11:16 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Lobster 2/20/11 7:18 p.m.
           Re: So you're on a desert island:Jillybean 2/21/11 12:44 p.m.
     Silent Cartographer...Hyokin 2/20/11 7:33 p.m.
     Halo 3 - The CovenantHikaru-119 2/20/11 7:54 p.m.
           Actually, there is sniping tooZackDark 2/20/11 8:53 p.m.
                 Re: Actually, there is sniping tooBeckx 2/21/11 8:54 a.m.
           Re: Halo 3 - The CovenantJillybean 2/21/11 12:47 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Cody Miller 2/20/11 8:49 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Alexis 2/20/11 9:38 p.m.
     Silent Cartographer except ...Kermit 2/20/11 10:08 p.m.
     The Ark.Narcogen 2/20/11 10:49 p.m.
           Re: The Ark.Jillybean 2/21/11 12:51 p.m.
     AotCRNartFOpc 2/20/11 10:55 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Lurono 2/20/11 11:07 p.m.
           Great thread!Lurono 2/21/11 2:33 a.m.
                 Re: Great thread!Jillybean 2/21/11 12:52 p.m.
                       noooooooooooo! *NM* *NM*thebruce0 2/21/11 1:52 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Someone 2/20/11 11:51 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:gspawn 2/21/11 8:14 a.m.
           Re: So you're on a desert island:SonofMacPhisto 2/21/11 10:53 a.m.
                 ^ Response to OP, not you, sorry. :) *NM*SonofMacPhisto 2/21/11 12:19 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:General Vagueness 2/21/11 11:51 a.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Zogen 2/21/11 3:47 p.m.
     Some past threads (AOTCR, TB, Library)Rockslider 2/21/11 4:50 p.m.
           Re: Some past threads (AOTCR, TB, Library)Lobster 2/21/11 9:01 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Quirel 2/21/11 9:50 p.m.
     Re: So you're on Jilligan's Island:Hedgemony 2/22/11 1:03 a.m.
           Lol. *applause* *NM*Leviathan 2/22/11 1:12 a.m.
           A 5oz. swallow could not carry a 1lb. beckx *NM*padraig08 2/22/11 2:31 a.m.
           Re: So you're on Jilligan's Island:Jillybean 2/22/11 11:58 a.m.
                 Re: So you're on Jilligan's Island:Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 2/22/11 5:30 p.m.
                       Re: So you're on Jilligan's Island:Jillybean 2/23/11 12:11 p.m.
           LOL! It's funny because it's true!Beckx 2/22/11 12:36 p.m.
     Re: So you're on a desert island:Miguel Chavez 2/22/11 8:07 a.m.
           Re: So you're on a desert island:SonofMacPhisto 2/22/11 9:38 a.m.
                 Re: So you're on a desert island:Beckx 2/22/11 6:25 p.m.



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