Re: Worst line of the series, period. |
Posted By: Leisandir <joecooperstein@hotmail.com> | Date: 2/19/11 1:06 a.m. |
In Response To: Re: Worst line of the series, period. (uberfoop)
Halo 2 and 3 give voice to the enemy. They have actual dialogue and scenes. In the first game, the cinematics serve to set up your reason for being somewhere - it's a game of exploration. Large environments, battles, etc. I'm not saying that the first game is inferior, I'm pointing out a significant difference: Halo worked because there was so much mystery. If the following games did nothing to resolve the mystery, they would have been awful. In revealing the mystery, they implemented politics, religion, and individual characters: the Prophets, Tartarus, the Arbiter, Hood, Miranda, Johnson; compared to the first game: Keyes, Chief (who barely qualifies, as he's primarily a vessel for the player and secondarily a character), Cortana, Foehammer, and Sparky. Everyone who isn't Chief serves the sole purpose of giving the player objectives: Repel boarders, find survivors, unlock the door, kill the Flood, run from the annoying robot.
People laud the first game for its storytelling, and it has a functional method. What isn't often identified is that the method is only functional for the genesis of the story: continuous ambiguity regarding the Forerunner, the nature of the Flood, the hierarchy of the Covenant, and the state of the human race would have taken the series nowhere. Lots of exploration and fighting with no exposition.
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'Were it so easy.' | SonofMacPhisto | 2/16/11 11:33 p.m. |
Halo 3's Storytelling... | uberfoop | 2/17/11 12:03 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Hawaiian Pig | 2/17/11 12:09 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | GrimBrother One | 2/17/11 12:19 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Narcogen | 2/17/11 12:30 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Hawaiian Pig | 2/17/11 12:53 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | thebruce0 | 2/17/11 9:22 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Flynn J Taggart | 2/17/11 1:49 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 1:59 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Hawaiian Pig | 2/17/11 2:20 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Kaidon 047 | 2/17/11 6:57 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | ManKitten | 2/17/11 9:29 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 1:54 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | The BS Police | 2/17/11 2:43 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Avateur | 2/17/11 6:33 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Jillybean | 2/17/11 10:49 a.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Narcogen | 2/17/11 10:34 p.m. |
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... | Jillybean | 2/18/11 10:57 a.m. |
Upon further consideration. | uberfoop | 2/17/11 3:25 p.m. |
Re: Upon further consideration. | Hawaiian Pig | 2/17/11 4:10 p.m. |
Re: Upon further consideration. | Metalingus627 | 2/17/11 5:29 p.m. |
Re: Upon further consideration. | Narcogen | 2/17/11 10:32 p.m. |
Re: Upon further consideration. | Flynn J Taggart | 2/18/11 12:28 a.m. |
It's a beautiful cutscene. | padraig08 | 2/17/11 12:05 a.m. |
Re: It's a beautiful cutscene. | uberfoop | 2/17/11 12:21 a.m. |
Re: It's a beautiful cutscene. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 2/17/11 6:42 a.m. |
The cutscene that does it for me is... | GrimBrother One | 2/17/11 12:25 a.m. |
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is... | Jaydee | 2/17/11 12:38 a.m. |
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is... | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 1:49 a.m. |
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is... | Leviathan | 2/17/11 2:42 a.m. |
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is... | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 2/17/11 6:45 a.m. |
completely agree, one of my favorites for sure *NM* | T07WRX5 | 2/17/11 2:19 p.m. |
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is... | Narcogen | 2/17/11 10:28 p.m. |
This^ *NM* | Kermit | 2/17/11 11:15 p.m. |
Re: 'Were it so easy.' | Jaydee | 2/17/11 12:28 a.m. |
Re: 'Were it so easy.' | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 2:06 a.m. |
Re: 'Were it so easy.' | Leviathan | 2/17/11 2:08 a.m. |
Re: 'Were it so easy.' | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 2:11 a.m. |
Re: 'Were it so easy.' | Leviathan | 2/17/11 2:18 a.m. |
Re: 'Were it so easy.' | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 2:20 a.m. |
Re: 'Were it so easy.' | Leviathan | 2/17/11 2:36 a.m. |
Worst line of the series, period. | Kermit | 2/17/11 5:49 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Azo 'Galvat | 2/17/11 7:47 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | General Battuta | 2/17/11 8:28 a.m. |
Same. *NM* | Beckx | 2/17/11 9:35 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | kanbo | 2/17/11 10:03 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Kermit | 2/17/11 10:10 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Beckx | 2/17/11 10:14 a.m. |
Their, there, they're, thar. *NM* | Beckx | 2/17/11 10:15 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Kermit | 2/17/11 10:20 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Beckx | 2/17/11 10:23 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Schooly D | 2/17/11 10:26 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | General Battuta | 2/17/11 10:29 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | ManKitten | 2/17/11 10:32 a.m. |
Nicely phoneticized *NM* | thebruce0 | 2/17/11 10:44 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 1:30 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Avateur | 2/17/11 2:10 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Beckx | 2/17/11 4:12 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Avateur | 2/17/11 6:22 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Leisandir | 2/18/11 10:39 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Avateur | 2/18/11 11:09 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | General Battuta | 2/18/11 11:58 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | uberfoop | 2/19/11 12:12 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Leisandir | 2/19/11 1:06 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Hawaiian Pig | 2/19/11 1:11 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Leisandir | 2/19/11 11:06 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Avateur | 2/19/11 2:24 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Leisandir | 2/19/11 2:42 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | uberfoop | 2/19/11 3:16 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | General Battuta | 2/19/11 4:32 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | SonofMacPhisto | 2/19/11 4:49 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | uberfoop | 2/19/11 2:53 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Beckx | 2/17/11 10:33 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | NsU Soldier | 2/17/11 11:47 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Azo 'Galvat | 2/17/11 10:43 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Narcogen | 2/17/11 10:27 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 2/17/11 10:32 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | thebruce0 | 2/17/11 10:53 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 2/17/11 11:10 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | JDQuackers | 2/17/11 1:11 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | thebruce0 | 2/17/11 1:55 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Hawaiian Pig | 2/17/11 3:49 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 2/17/11 7:16 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | DEEP NNN | 2/17/11 7:51 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | thebruce0 | 2/17/11 10:33 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Narcogen | 2/17/11 10:33 p.m. |
Here is my brilliant analysis | General Battuta | 2/17/11 10:35 a.m. |
My Thoughts Exactly *NM* | Bones153 | 2/17/11 10:43 a.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | Kermit | 2/17/11 10:53 a.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | General Battuta | 2/17/11 10:59 a.m. |
ugh pardon typoes *NM* | General Battuta | 2/17/11 10:59 a.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | Kermit | 2/17/11 11:50 a.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | General Battuta | 2/17/11 11:55 a.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | Kermit | 2/17/11 11:59 a.m. |
I think someone's too smart for their own good. | The Loot | 2/17/11 2:44 p.m. |
Re: I think someone's too smart for their own good | Kermit | 2/17/11 4:31 p.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | 343winks. | 2/17/11 7:36 p.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | Kermit | 2/17/11 11:02 p.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | General Battuta | 2/18/11 12:22 a.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | Kermit | 2/18/11 1:22 a.m. |
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal | General Battuta | 2/18/11 8:29 a.m. |
^This *NM* | SonofMacPhisto | 2/18/11 3:17 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 2/17/11 10:46 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | Azo 'Galvat | 2/17/11 11:07 a.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | ZackDark | 2/17/11 5:16 p.m. |
Re: Worst line of the series, period. | 343winks. | 2/17/11 7:11 p.m. |
"To War" would like to have a word with you. *NM* | Bones153 | 2/17/11 8:01 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Moorpheusl9 | 2/17/11 8:17 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Archilen | 2/17/11 8:48 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Bry | 2/17/11 9:35 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 10:19 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Leviathan | 2/17/11 10:46 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Azo 'Galvat | 2/17/11 11:09 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Quirel | 2/17/11 11:22 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | thebruce0 | 2/17/11 11:29 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Metalingus627 | 2/17/11 1:51 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Bry | 2/17/11 10:48 a.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | NsU Soldier | 2/17/11 12:03 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Archilen | 2/17/11 12:05 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Bry | 2/17/11 12:20 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | NsU Soldier | 2/17/11 12:41 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Azo 'Galvat | 2/17/11 1:01 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | Moorpheusl9 | 2/17/11 1:26 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 1:43 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | scarab | 2/17/11 1:47 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | General Battuta | 2/17/11 2:28 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 2:36 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | General Battuta | 2/17/11 3:14 p.m. |
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you. | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 3:18 p.m. |
In a way, yes | 7he grunt w/a plasma pistol | 2/17/11 3:37 p.m. |
Miranda wasn't thinking at all! | The BS Police | 2/17/11 1:43 p.m. |
Women drivers.... | bluerunner | 2/17/11 1:54 p.m. |
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all! | Bry | 2/17/11 2:22 p.m. |
I'll tell you what doesn't make sense | General Battuta | 2/17/11 2:30 p.m. |
And man, poor Johnson! | General Battuta | 2/17/11 2:34 p.m. |
I came back to life for this?! *NM* | Moorpheusl9 | 2/17/11 2:37 p.m. |
He's not dead but don't ask... *NM* | scarab | 2/17/11 2:42 p.m. |
I can't divulge classified information... | Quirel | 2/17/11 5:35 p.m. |
Re: I can't divulge classified information... | scarab | 2/17/11 7:01 p.m. |
Awesome Analysis | Sparkypinball | 2/18/11 3:35 a.m. |
Oh thank you :-) | scarab | 2/18/11 4:47 a.m. |
Re: Oh thank you :-) | topleybird | 2/18/11 8:58 a.m. |
Re: Oh thank you :-) | scarab | 2/18/11 11:16 a.m. |
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all! | 343winks. | 2/17/11 7:45 p.m. |
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all! | The BS Police | 2/17/11 7:47 p.m. |
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all! | NsU Soldier | 2/17/11 9:31 p.m. |
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all! | SonofMacPhisto | 2/17/11 11:08 p.m. |
Re: BEST line of the series, probably. | Narcogen | 2/17/11 10:23 p.m. |
Boy, this is fun! | Kermit | 2/17/11 11:13 p.m. |
er, backwards^ *NM* | Kermit | 2/17/11 11:18 p.m. |
Fun, this is boy? *NM* | Narcogen | 2/18/11 12:47 a.m. |
Ok but... | MartytheElder | 2/18/11 12:52 a.m. |
Re: Ok but... | The Loot | 2/18/11 12:56 a.m. |
Re: Ok but... | Kermit | 2/18/11 1:16 a.m. |
Re: Ok but... | Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) | 2/18/11 8:46 a.m. |
Re: Ok but... | SonofMacPhisto | 2/18/11 3:21 p.m. |
Re: Ok but... | Kermit | 2/18/11 4:31 p.m. |
Re: Ok but... | Narcogen | 2/18/11 1:52 a.m. |
E Dorian?! | Hyokin | 2/18/11 9:26 a.m. |
Re: E Dorian?! | Kermit | 2/18/11 4:38 p.m. |
Re: Ok but... | SonofMacPhisto | 2/18/11 3:13 p.m. |
Re: Ok but... | Hawaiian Pig | 2/18/11 4:25 p.m. |