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Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...
Posted By: Avateur <avateur@gmail.com>	Date: 2/17/11 6:33 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Halo 3's Storytelling... (The BS Police) As you know, I really enjoyed Halo 3, and I've taken issue with the whole "H3 isn't canon" thing you like to talk about, but I have to agree with most of your post here (and always have agreed with your legit story complaints). Cody Miller summed it up pretty well a long time ago: Link: http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive32.pl?read=970562 Yes, but we don't find that out until Halo 3, where Bungie ruined everything. On its own, Halo 2 was money, and there was tons of mystery. Was Truth playing the elites all as fools? Why did Regret jump the gun? What was Cortana going to do on High Charity? Then Halo 3 tells us No, doesn't matter, and nothing. Or the longer, more explained version of why Halo 3 was a big let down when compared to H1 and H2. Link: http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive31.pl?read=926360 Halo 3 takes the most interesting character in the series [That's Arbiter, for all of you wondering - Avateur] and sidelines him. It offers zero consequences or dramatic reasons for Cortana's capture. The dynamics between the heros and villains is utterly flat and uninteresting. Truth really was just a blind zealot. Halo 2 said dig deeper and Halo 3 said my shovel's broken. I wouldn't even say Halo 3 spent a third of the time advancing the plot. The situation doesn't change until Truth is killed and the Gravemind tries to infest the ark. The status Quo from Halo 2 remains until there are 2 levels left. Halo 3 needed something within the first 3 levels to shake it up. We already knew we were chasing truth to the ark where he was going to activate the rings, so no, going to the ark wasn't a change. I thought maybe Cortana had been infected by the flood back in Halo 1 (Don't pick up hitchhikers, anybody?) and was manipulating both the covenant and the humans into something the whole time. I didn't know what, but that was my though. Didn't happen. I thought maybe Truth knew all along what the rings really did, and was just tricking the covenant into using them, so he could wipe out the elites and end the War between their species. Well, that didn't happen either. Humans are forerunner! Oh no, the one thing everybody already knew was the big shocker at the end of the game. I'm sure everybody's jaw was on the floor in disbelief. Yeah, right. Maybe reveal why the covenant want to kill us then? Don't? Oh okay.

Message Index

'Were it so easy.'	SonofMacPhisto	2/16/11 11:33 p.m.
Halo 3's Storytelling...	uberfoop	2/17/11 12:03 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Hawaiian Pig	2/17/11 12:09 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	GrimBrother One	2/17/11 12:19 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Narcogen	2/17/11 12:30 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Hawaiian Pig	2/17/11 12:53 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	thebruce0	2/17/11 9:22 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Flynn J Taggart	2/17/11 1:49 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 1:59 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Hawaiian Pig	2/17/11 2:20 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Kaidon 047	2/17/11 6:57 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	ManKitten	2/17/11 9:29 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 1:54 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	The BS Police	2/17/11 2:43 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Avateur	2/17/11 6:33 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Jillybean	2/17/11 10:49 a.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Narcogen	2/17/11 10:34 p.m.
Re: Halo 3's Storytelling...	Jillybean	2/18/11 10:57 a.m.
Upon further consideration.	uberfoop	2/17/11 3:25 p.m.
Re: Upon further consideration.	Hawaiian Pig	2/17/11 4:10 p.m.
Re: Upon further consideration.	Metalingus627	2/17/11 5:29 p.m.
Re: Upon further consideration.	Narcogen	2/17/11 10:32 p.m.
Re: Upon further consideration.	Flynn J Taggart	2/18/11 12:28 a.m.
It's a beautiful cutscene.	padraig08	2/17/11 12:05 a.m.
Re: It's a beautiful cutscene.	uberfoop	2/17/11 12:21 a.m.
Re: It's a beautiful cutscene.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/11 6:42 a.m.
The cutscene that does it for me is...	GrimBrother One	2/17/11 12:25 a.m.
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is...	Jaydee	2/17/11 12:38 a.m.
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is...	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 1:49 a.m.
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is...	Leviathan	2/17/11 2:42 a.m.
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is...	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/11 6:45 a.m.
completely agree, one of my favorites for sure *NM*	T07WRX5	2/17/11 2:19 p.m.
Re: The cutscene that does it for me is...	Narcogen	2/17/11 10:28 p.m.
This^ *NM*	Kermit	2/17/11 11:15 p.m.
Re: 'Were it so easy.'	Jaydee	2/17/11 12:28 a.m.
Re: 'Were it so easy.'	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 2:06 a.m.
Re: 'Were it so easy.'	Leviathan	2/17/11 2:08 a.m.
Re: 'Were it so easy.'	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 2:11 a.m.
Re: 'Were it so easy.'	Leviathan	2/17/11 2:18 a.m.
Re: 'Were it so easy.'	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 2:20 a.m.
Re: 'Were it so easy.'	Leviathan	2/17/11 2:36 a.m.
Worst line of the series, period.	Kermit	2/17/11 5:49 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Azo 'Galvat	2/17/11 7:47 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	General Battuta	2/17/11 8:28 a.m.
Same. *NM*	Beckx	2/17/11 9:35 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	kanbo	2/17/11 10:03 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Kermit	2/17/11 10:10 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Beckx	2/17/11 10:14 a.m.
Their, there, they're, thar. *NM*	Beckx	2/17/11 10:15 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Kermit	2/17/11 10:20 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Beckx	2/17/11 10:23 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Schooly D	2/17/11 10:26 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	General Battuta	2/17/11 10:29 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	ManKitten	2/17/11 10:32 a.m.
Nicely phoneticized *NM*	thebruce0	2/17/11 10:44 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 1:30 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Avateur	2/17/11 2:10 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Beckx	2/17/11 4:12 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Avateur	2/17/11 6:22 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Leisandir	2/18/11 10:39 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Avateur	2/18/11 11:09 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	General Battuta	2/18/11 11:58 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	uberfoop	2/19/11 12:12 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Leisandir	2/19/11 1:06 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Hawaiian Pig	2/19/11 1:11 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Leisandir	2/19/11 11:06 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Avateur	2/19/11 2:24 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Leisandir	2/19/11 2:42 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	uberfoop	2/19/11 3:16 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	General Battuta	2/19/11 4:32 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	SonofMacPhisto	2/19/11 4:49 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	uberfoop	2/19/11 2:53 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Beckx	2/17/11 10:33 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	NsU Soldier	2/17/11 11:47 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Azo 'Galvat	2/17/11 10:43 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Narcogen	2/17/11 10:27 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/11 10:32 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	thebruce0	2/17/11 10:53 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/11 11:10 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	JDQuackers	2/17/11 1:11 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	thebruce0	2/17/11 1:55 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Hawaiian Pig	2/17/11 3:49 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Stephen L. (SoundEffect)	2/17/11 7:16 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	DEEP NNN	2/17/11 7:51 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	thebruce0	2/17/11 10:33 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Narcogen	2/17/11 10:33 p.m.
Here is my brilliant analysis	General Battuta	2/17/11 10:35 a.m.
My Thoughts Exactly *NM*	Bones153	2/17/11 10:43 a.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	Kermit	2/17/11 10:53 a.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	General Battuta	2/17/11 10:59 a.m.
ugh pardon typoes *NM*	General Battuta	2/17/11 10:59 a.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	Kermit	2/17/11 11:50 a.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	General Battuta	2/17/11 11:55 a.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	Kermit	2/17/11 11:59 a.m.
I think someone's too smart for their own good.	The Loot	2/17/11 2:44 p.m.
Re: I think someone's too smart for their own good	Kermit	2/17/11 4:31 p.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	343winks.	2/17/11 7:36 p.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	Kermit	2/17/11 11:02 p.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	General Battuta	2/18/11 12:22 a.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	Kermit	2/18/11 1:22 a.m.
Re: Here is my brilliant rebuttal	General Battuta	2/18/11 8:29 a.m.
^This *NM*	SonofMacPhisto	2/18/11 3:17 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	2/17/11 10:46 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	Azo 'Galvat	2/17/11 11:07 a.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	ZackDark	2/17/11 5:16 p.m.
Re: Worst line of the series, period.	343winks.	2/17/11 7:11 p.m.
"To War" would like to have a word with you. *NM*	Bones153	2/17/11 8:01 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Moorpheusl9	2/17/11 8:17 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Archilen	2/17/11 8:48 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Bry	2/17/11 9:35 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 10:19 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Leviathan	2/17/11 10:46 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Azo 'Galvat	2/17/11 11:09 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Quirel	2/17/11 11:22 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	thebruce0	2/17/11 11:29 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Metalingus627	2/17/11 1:51 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Bry	2/17/11 10:48 a.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	NsU Soldier	2/17/11 12:03 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Archilen	2/17/11 12:05 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Bry	2/17/11 12:20 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	NsU Soldier	2/17/11 12:41 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Azo 'Galvat	2/17/11 1:01 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	Moorpheusl9	2/17/11 1:26 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 1:43 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	scarab	2/17/11 1:47 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	General Battuta	2/17/11 2:28 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 2:36 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	General Battuta	2/17/11 3:14 p.m.
Re: "To War" would like to have a word with you.	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 3:18 p.m.
In a way, yes	7he grunt w/a plasma pistol	2/17/11 3:37 p.m.
Miranda wasn't thinking at all!	The BS Police	2/17/11 1:43 p.m.
Women drivers....	bluerunner	2/17/11 1:54 p.m.
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all!	Bry	2/17/11 2:22 p.m.
I'll tell you what doesn't make sense	General Battuta	2/17/11 2:30 p.m.
And man, poor Johnson!	General Battuta	2/17/11 2:34 p.m.
I came back to life for this?! *NM*	Moorpheusl9	2/17/11 2:37 p.m.
He's not dead but don't ask... *NM*	scarab	2/17/11 2:42 p.m.
I can't divulge classified information...	Quirel	2/17/11 5:35 p.m.
Re: I can't divulge classified information...	scarab	2/17/11 7:01 p.m.
Awesome Analysis	Sparkypinball	2/18/11 3:35 a.m.
Oh thank you :-)	scarab	2/18/11 4:47 a.m.
Re: Oh thank you :-)	topleybird	2/18/11 8:58 a.m.
Re: Oh thank you :-)	scarab	2/18/11 11:16 a.m.
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all!	343winks.	2/17/11 7:45 p.m.
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all!	The BS Police	2/17/11 7:47 p.m.
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all!	NsU Soldier	2/17/11 9:31 p.m.
Re: Miranda wasn't thinking at all!	SonofMacPhisto	2/17/11 11:08 p.m.
Re: BEST line of the series, probably.	Narcogen	2/17/11 10:23 p.m.
Boy, this is fun!	Kermit	2/17/11 11:13 p.m.
er, backwards^ *NM*	Kermit	2/17/11 11:18 p.m.
Fun, this is boy? *NM*	Narcogen	2/18/11 12:47 a.m.
Ok but...	MartytheElder	2/18/11 12:52 a.m.
Re: Ok but...	The Loot	2/18/11 12:56 a.m.
Re: Ok but...	Kermit	2/18/11 1:16 a.m.
Re: Ok but...	Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)	2/18/11 8:46 a.m.
Re: Ok but...	SonofMacPhisto	2/18/11 3:21 p.m.
Re: Ok but...	Kermit	2/18/11 4:31 p.m.
Re: Ok but...	Narcogen	2/18/11 1:52 a.m.
E Dorian?!	Hyokin	2/18/11 9:26 a.m.
Re: E Dorian?!	Kermit	2/18/11 4:38 p.m.
Re: Ok but...	SonofMacPhisto	2/18/11 3:13 p.m.
Re: Ok but...	Hawaiian Pig	2/18/11 4:25 p.m.