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Lettuce be reality here
Posted By: IbeechuDate: 10/31/10 5:36 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed reward (Kermit)


I loved what Dave Halo said way up here: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1029008

It may be easier for you to search in-game, but its easier for Korn to search through code. Its still a hunt, though. To each his own, I say.

You're all acting like kornman took a file, ran it through a hex editor, and a result came up that said "There's a switch in New Alexandria that let's you fly a Pelican!" I'm sure it's more complicated than that, right? For kornman, it might be easy, but that's only because he knows what he's doing (and I'm sure it still took work). Not everyone can do what he did. He was just using his talents to contribute information.

I guess the outrage comes from the fact that, were it not for kornman, this search would have taken far, far longer. And so kornman must have then taken away a certain amount of future fun you guys will have. I'm sure if kornman thought of it that way, he wouldn't have posted his post (or would have at least left out a lot of crucial information). But it's now been approximately 5000 posts bashing kornman as if he's a common cheating-hacker asshole. What he did takes work and a specialized skill, and it was fun to him, and he was not aware he was diminishing anyone's fun. In-game easter egg hunters share those same qualities.

Gedankenexperiment: How much more well-received this scenario would have been: kornman never makes a post and, instead, someone else discovers the egg in-game and makes a post detailing exactly how to get it. Had someone done that, people wouldn't even have the fun of finding the switch or trigger volume. Would the fact that it was found in-game made it OK?

Cliffs:
- kornman is just applying a special skill, same as other egg hunters. His is just faster and isn't collaborative. But to say that that makes it less valid, or to demean him for it is just absolutely ridiculous.
- It's unfortunate that the community didn't get to have happy-egg-hunting-fun-time, and doing something like kornman did is definitely frowned upon when it comes to eggs. But he wasn't trying to piss people off or ruin their fun. He had information about an egg and wanted to present it. To him (and understandably so), information is information and where it came from is irrelevant.


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Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?kornman00 10/30/10 3:29 p.m.
     Can't wait to see someone's success video! *NM*thebruce0 10/30/10 3:33 p.m.
     MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERELouis Wu 10/30/10 3:38 p.m.
           Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECaptain Spark 10/30/10 3:44 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREBry 10/30/10 3:51 p.m.
                 Best easter egg ever ruined...WhoLikesChicken 10/30/10 3:52 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...Captain Spark 10/30/10 4:00 p.m.
                             Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...WhoLikesChicken 10/30/10 4:05 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...Dojorkan 10/30/10 4:48 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...DHalo 10/30/10 5:17 p.m.
                       Re: Best easter egg ever ruined...ArteenEsben 10/30/10 5:20 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 3:55 p.m.
                       Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECaptain Spark 10/30/10 4:11 p.m.
                             Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 4:20 p.m.
                                   Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECaptain Spark 10/30/10 4:32 p.m.
                                         Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREBry 10/30/10 4:57 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HERECrab 10/30/10 11:08 p.m.
           Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 3:52 p.m.
                 ^^^^^THIS^^^^^ *NM*munky-058 10/30/10 3:55 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR SPOILERS IN HEREmnemesis 10/30/10 4:10 p.m.
                       Probably glitch related spoilerZackDark 10/30/10 4:25 p.m.
                 Well...Ghost Faction 10/31/10 1:48 a.m.
           MAJOR JERKS IN HEREGhaleonEB 10/30/10 5:20 p.m.
                 Re: MAJOR JERKS IN HEREDHalo 10/30/10 5:26 p.m.
                       Its a hunt if you don't read HBO for answers. :P *NM*hyokin 10/30/10 5:32 p.m.
     two questions before I try this...RyanTheHeretic 10/30/10 3:39 p.m.
           Actually, there are no Rally Points, scratch that! *NM*RyanTheHeretic 10/30/10 3:43 p.m.
     Re: "Spoiling"kornman00 10/30/10 4:46 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 4:55 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"The Alpha ELite 10/30/10 5:02 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Decommissioner 10/30/10 5:05 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"GodlyPerfection 10/30/10 5:55 p.m.
                 Re: "Spoiling"kornman00 10/30/10 7:26 p.m.
                       Re: "Spoiling"Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 8:16 p.m.
                       Re: "Spoiling"General Vagueness 10/31/10 4:10 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Avateur 10/30/10 6:11 p.m.
           Re: "Spoiling"Dojorkan 10/30/10 6:32 p.m.
                 Re: "Spoiling" *img*Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:39 p.m.
                       ^Oh, yeah, spoiler.Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:40 p.m.
                       Re: "Spoiling" *img*Jak Redlevske 10/30/10 6:48 p.m.
                             Re: "Spoiling" *img*mala420 10/30/10 6:49 p.m.
                                   Re: "Spoiling" *img*Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:52 p.m.
                                         Re: "Spoiling" *img*mala420 10/30/10 6:54 p.m.
                                               Re: "Spoiling" *img*Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 6:56 p.m.
     Great info! *NM*ArteenEsben 10/30/10 5:09 p.m.
           Re: Great info!ArteenEsben 10/30/10 5:33 p.m.
     *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantomkornman00 10/30/10 6:56 p.m.
           Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoUrk 10/30/10 6:58 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantomala420 10/30/10 7:01 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 7:03 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoBry 10/30/10 7:10 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 7:18 p.m.
                 I humbly disagree *NM*ArteenEsben 10/30/10 7:43 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantokornman00 10/30/10 8:57 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDecommissioner 10/30/10 9:09 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDevin Olsen 10/30/10 10:14 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDecommissioner 10/30/10 10:35 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\Phantokornman00 10/30/10 10:56 p.m.
                                   Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoCrab 10/31/10 8:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Nah *IMG*Devin Olsen 10/31/10 9:40 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoMiguel Chavez 10/31/10 11:34 a.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoArteenEsben 10/31/10 11:50 a.m.
                 I understand your position, but disagreeAvateur 10/30/10 9:51 p.m.
                 lol u mad *NM*NartFOpc 10/30/10 10:49 p.m.
                 Urk...IceEagle85 10/30/10 10:59 p.m.
           Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoBry 10/30/10 7:37 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoJak Redlevske 10/30/10 7:40 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoJak Redlevske 10/30/10 8:00 p.m.
           Thanks... Its awesome! *NM*The Alpha ELite 10/30/10 8:06 p.m.
           Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoZackDark 10/30/10 9:10 p.m.
                 Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 9:16 p.m.
                       Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoZackDark 10/30/10 9:23 p.m.
                             Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for Funsharpsniper99 10/30/10 9:26 p.m.
                                   Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for FunPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 9:34 p.m.
                                         Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for Funsharpsniper99 10/30/10 9:43 p.m.
                                               Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for FunPkmnrulz240 10/30/10 10:05 p.m.
                                   Re: Get a friend in the Pelican Gun for FunDecommissioner 10/30/10 9:36 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoArteenEsben 10/30/10 9:28 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoDojorkan 10/30/10 10:25 p.m.
                             Re: *Spoiler* Here's how to fly the Pelicon\PhantoFyreWulff 10/30/10 11:44 p.m.
           *Spoiler* Easy way in singleplayerDecommissioner 10/30/10 10:43 p.m.
     Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?FyreWulff 10/30/10 7:52 p.m.
           Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Decommissioner 10/30/10 7:57 p.m.
                 Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?FyreWulff 10/30/10 8:03 p.m.
                       Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Bry 10/30/10 8:13 p.m.
                       Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Decommissioner 10/30/10 8:14 p.m.
           Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?ArteenEsben 10/30/10 8:07 p.m.
                 Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?FyreWulff 10/30/10 8:10 p.m.
                       Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 8:22 p.m.
     Shame on you, HBO *NM*cagerrin 10/30/10 8:07 p.m.
           What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side) *NM*GrimBrother One 10/30/10 8:14 p.m.
                 I think he's disappointed in True Blood s3Beckx 10/30/10 8:24 p.m.
                       Re: I think he's disappointed in True Blood s3cagerrin 10/30/10 8:38 p.m.
                             Re: Don't throw a sticky at the funny. :( *NM*Beckx 10/30/10 8:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Don't throw a sticky at the funny. :(cagerrin 10/30/10 8:55 p.m.
                 Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)cagerrin 10/30/10 8:26 p.m.
                       Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Crab 10/30/10 8:56 p.m.
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                                         Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)p0lar_bear 10/30/10 10:02 p.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Pkmnrulz240 10/30/10 10:09 p.m.
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                                                     Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)p0lar_bear 10/30/10 10:10 p.m.
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                                                                 Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)mnemesis 10/31/10 5:09 a.m.
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                                                                       Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Pkmnrulz240 10/31/10 9:33 a.m.
                                                     Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)ArteenEsben 10/30/10 10:19 p.m.
                                                           From Halloween Miracle to Halloween Scandal?!PyroSporker16 10/31/10 3:25 a.m.
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                                         Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Bry 10/30/10 10:25 p.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)mnemesis 10/31/10 5:14 a.m.
                                                     Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Captain Spark 10/31/10 7:46 a.m.
                                                           Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Bry 10/31/10 8:47 a.m.
                                                           Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Pkmnrulz240 10/31/10 9:27 a.m.
                                               Re: What exactly did HBO "do"? (on either side)Decommissioner 10/31/10 11:16 a.m.
                       I don't get it, either.Jordan117 10/31/10 4:04 a.m.
     Personally...cheapLEY 10/31/10 12:50 a.m.
           Re: Opinion (long rant)The Alpha ELite 10/31/10 9:51 a.m.
                 Re: Opinion (long rant)Louis Wu 10/31/10 10:22 a.m.
                 Re: Opinion (long rant)Bry 10/31/10 10:35 a.m.
                       Re: Opinion (long rant)Bry 10/31/10 10:52 a.m.
     Re: Want to fly a Pelican/Phantom?ZaneZavin 10/31/10 1:20 a.m.
     Now we just need to find a flyable Spirit. *NM*Dojorkan 10/31/10 1:38 a.m.
           and seraph *NM*Decommissioner 10/31/10 11:36 a.m.
     The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardKermit 10/31/10 9:44 a.m.
           Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 9:59 a.m.
                 Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 10:28 a.m.
                       Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 11:47 a.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 11:53 a.m.
                                   Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 12:08 p.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 12:06 p.m.
                                   Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardArteenEsben 10/31/10 12:19 p.m.
                                         Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardLouis Wu 10/31/10 12:32 p.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardKermit 10/31/10 12:46 p.m.
                                   Lettuce be reality hereIbeechu 10/31/10 5:36 p.m.
                                         You know...FugitiveSoldier 10/31/10 8:55 p.m.
                                               Re: You know...Kermit 10/31/10 10:30 p.m.
           Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardFyreWulff 10/31/10 10:13 a.m.
                 Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardQuirel 10/31/10 11:18 p.m.
                       Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardDHalo 10/31/10 11:25 p.m.
                             Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardQuirel 10/31/10 11:28 p.m.
                                   Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardFyreWulff 10/31/10 11:44 p.m.
           Re: The unbearable heaviness of delayed rewardZackDark 10/31/10 11:29 a.m.
     I would like to apologize.Louis Wu 10/31/10 10:19 a.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.serpx 10/31/10 10:40 a.m.
                 Re: I would like to apologize.pete_the_duck 10/31/10 11:28 a.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.ZackDark 10/31/10 11:35 a.m.
                 Re: I would like to apologize.DHalo 10/31/10 11:50 a.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.The Alpha ELite 10/31/10 12:38 p.m.
           HBO: More drama than HBO ;) *NM*Raulboy 10/31/10 9:37 p.m.
           Re: I would like to apologize.Quirel 10/31/10 11:21 p.m.



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