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A no hitter.
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 10/19/10 5:38 a.m.

In Response To: Re: If it's pitch-perfect, awesome. Otherwise... (Cody Miller)


: What exactly WOULD you change? To me, the point of a remake is to change
: things, or else, why remake it? If all you're going to do is update the
: graphics, then really what's the point? You've got to give me a reason to
: buy it. Halo 1 still exists and I can play it. It sounds like you like
: pretty much everything about it. So… why not play it?

Halo 1 lacks Theater Mode. So while I might enjoy playing it as much as any more recent game, I cannot easily record and share those experiences with others. The same applies to screenshots.

Halo 1 lacks Forge. I cannot customize its levels or share customizations with friends.

Halo 1 lacks online multiplayer. I cannot play against my friends on the Internet except through tunneling kludges, and even with them, I lose all the extra features of XBL and Bungie.net.

Halo 1 lacks network cooperative play, so the only way I can experience coop campaign play is through split screen, even if I have two consoles on the same local network.

Beyond the gameplay itself, as an experience, Halo has broadened since Halo 1, and returning to it underscores the absence of those elements mentioned above, not to mention the gameplay changes as well-- indestructible vehicles, not being able to commandeer vehicles, not being able to dual wield, etc etc.

I can see lots of reasons why people might not want it, or why 343 and MS might not want to do it, but I could also see a case for a straight-up graphical update that moves H1's content into the Reach engine, with improvements in graphical fidelity, the addition of all the above missing features, and changes in gameplay as dictated by the change in engines (use of Havok, etc etc). I would tweak the game itself only to the extent required by those changes-- for instance, rebalancing things to account for different weapons, for different vehicle behavior, etc etc.

It's not the same thing as saying "there is a market for such a product" but I can say that if that existed, I would probably buy it. I would go so far as to say I'd probably be more likely to buy that than I would be to buy a Halo 4 featuring the Master Chief and Cortana, but authored by a group other than Bungie.

Anger, Sadness and Envy Episode 20: Reach Spoilers



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Old halo games remake by 343 industries?hotshot revan 10/18/10 11:02 a.m.
     Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?ArteenEsben 10/18/10 11:20 a.m.
           Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?RyanTheHeretic 10/18/10 11:41 a.m.
                 Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?Bry 10/18/10 12:35 p.m.
                 Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?Archilen 10/18/10 1:01 p.m.
                 Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?ArteenEsben 10/18/10 4:00 p.m.
     Halo remakes? *Reach SP*RyanTheHeretic 10/18/10 11:30 a.m.
           Re: Halo remakes? *Reach SP*ArteenEsben 10/18/10 4:03 p.m.
                 Re: Halo remakes? *Reach SP*Quirel 10/18/10 9:52 p.m.
                       Re: Halo remakes? *Reach SP*ArteenEsben 10/19/10 7:38 a.m.
                 Re: Halo remakes? *Reach SP*RyanTheHeretic 10/19/10 7:32 a.m.
                       Re: Halo remakes? *Reach SP*ArteenEsben 10/19/10 8:15 a.m.
                             Re: Halo remakes? *Reach SP*thebruce0 10/20/10 10:10 a.m.
     No thanksAvateur 10/18/10 11:51 a.m.
           Agreed.P_40E 10/18/10 11:56 a.m.
                 I think Halo 2 was perfection. *NM*hyokin 10/18/10 11:58 a.m.
                       Step outside, hyokin. We need to talk. *NM*RyanTheHeretic 10/18/10 12:01 p.m.
                       I agree with Hyokin. *NM*Spec ops Grunt 10/18/10 12:26 p.m.
                       You are absolutely correct. *NM*Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) 10/18/10 12:30 p.m.
                             If he's talking about story, sure *NM*Avateur 10/18/10 12:54 p.m.
                       I concurpadraig08 10/18/10 6:07 p.m.
           Re: No thankskapowaz 10/18/10 12:18 p.m.
                 Re: No thanksAvateur 10/18/10 12:55 p.m.
     Why retread perfectly-good tires? *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/18/10 12:39 p.m.
           What if they're flat? *NM*The Loot 10/18/10 12:52 p.m.
                 You don't retread flat tires, only bald ones! *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/18/10 1:05 p.m.
                       But you do FIX a flat. *NM*The Loot 10/18/10 1:14 p.m.
           Re: Why retread perfectly-good tires?Cody Miller 10/19/10 11:28 a.m.
                 Re: Why retread perfectly-good tires?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/19/10 11:39 a.m.
                       Re: Why retread perfectly-good tires?Cody Miller 10/19/10 1:18 p.m.
                             Re: Why retread perfectly-good tires?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/19/10 4:11 p.m.
                             Re: Why retread perfectly-good tires?Avateur 10/19/10 5:47 p.m.
                 Re: Why retread perfectly-good tires?FoolsRun 10/20/10 9:06 a.m.
     Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?Cody Miller 10/18/10 1:30 p.m.
           Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?justagrunt1 10/18/10 1:43 p.m.
           Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?Hawaiian Pig 10/18/10 3:13 p.m.
                 Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?Hawaiian Pig 10/18/10 3:14 p.m.
     I don't believe itrolandk73 10/18/10 1:40 p.m.
           Re: I don't believe itAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/18/10 1:57 p.m.
                 Re: I don't believe itGrimBrother One 10/18/10 2:14 p.m.
                       I'm on the fenceBry 10/18/10 3:25 p.m.
     Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?thebruce0 10/18/10 2:33 p.m.
           Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?Bry 10/18/10 3:04 p.m.
                 Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?thebruce0 10/18/10 5:05 p.m.
                       Re: Old halo games remake by 343 industries?Bry 10/18/10 5:25 p.m.
     I really don't get what people expect.uberfoop 10/18/10 7:49 p.m.
           Well saidscarab 10/19/10 6:12 p.m.
     Re: If it's pitch-perfect, awesome. Otherwise...ThorsHammer 10/18/10 8:36 p.m.
           Re: If it's pitch-perfect, awesome. Otherwise...Cody Miller 10/18/10 9:44 p.m.
                 A no hitter.Narcogen 10/19/10 5:38 a.m.
                 Re: If it's pitch-perfect, awesome. Otherwise...kapowaz 10/19/10 5:49 a.m.
                       Re: If it's pitch-perfect, awesome. Otherwise...Archilen 10/19/10 8:53 a.m.
                 Re: If it's pitch-perfect, awesome. Otherwise...ThorsHammer 10/19/10 10:23 a.m.
           I'd love it, but with some caveats.Gravemind 10/20/10 2:56 p.m.
     Pointless Abominationscarab 10/19/10 12:31 a.m.
     The problem with a remake...Wayward Spleen™ 10/19/10 9:15 a.m.
           Re: The problem with a remake...tln 10/19/10 9:53 a.m.
                 Duel Wielding Warthogsscarab 10/20/10 2:43 a.m.
     Would love to see this happen, but just one thing.DerekT07 10/20/10 5:09 p.m.



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