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Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*
Posted By: 0postmortem0 <isaac.frankel@gmail.com>Date: 2/28/10 6:21 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP* (Phoenix_9286)


: I was actually the one that asked Frankie about it.

: According to him, "Ralph failed out of the program. Daisy made it
: through." Someone else inquired again about Spartan numbers, and just
: what happened to make him fail out, which lead to, "Numbers aren't
: necessarily sequential - or unique - as the nature of failouts dictates.
: The differences between Ralph and Daisy obviously happen after the van
: ride home - something we might explore later. I am talking to Nylund about
: all sorts of very cool things. :-)"

: That's where things get interesting. The Reach project page on Bnet has short
: bios about all our new SIII friends, and of interesting note, is how some
: of them have psychological problems. Kat, I believe, felt remorse and
: blamed herself for the loss of the last Noble Six, even though it wasn't
: her fault. Jun has had several issues of Post Traumatic Stress. Emile
: collects Covenant "items", something that's a serious offense in
: the Navy (the bio goes on to make mention of the fact that, "Good
: thing we aren't Navy.")

: Ralph and Daisy, among others, returned home to see their clones, living
: their lives. No one the wiser. If my memory continues to serve me, the
: rest of the escapees killed themselves. Ralph and Daisy were the only ones
: left, and Ralph killed his clone. I think it's safe to say, with the new
: information on the SIIIs in Reach, that Ralph had a whole boatload of
: psychological issues once he returned that made him unfit for duty as a
: Spartan in any capacity. What of all the augmentations then?

: "He washed out post some enhancements, yes. Not all. And he obviously
: wasn't full grown. The question is, are they able to retard enhancements
: as well as nurture them? The answer is yes. I imagine he's still slightly
: more than baseline human, however. "

: Only some enhancements. There were several rounds before all was said and
: done, right? Maybe he only got the first batch, psychological issues
: precluded him from getting the rest, and he washed out. I don't think ONI
: would want someone with issues like that, if his brain is all sorts of
: scattered, he wouldn't be much of a tactical asset. That leaves the Marine
: Corps.

: It's not like there isn't a precedent here either, right? I'm totally failing
: to do any research here and running purely from memory, so I really hope
: someone can correct me if I'm wrong. The Spartan 1's, Project Orion, were
: no different. Johnson was a member of said program. I Love Bees, despite
: it's questionable canon, dealt with S1s and their offspring as well. S1s
: had minor enhancements, but nothing nearly on the scale of S2s or 3s.

: So with all this in mind, I think we can more or less draw a path that says
: Ralph washed out after the first batch of enhancements because of
: unresolved psychological problems, effectively making him similar to an
: S1, and was transfered to the Marines as a result.

: Either way, if Frankie is talking to Nylund, I can't wait to see what becomes
: of that line of discussion. Humanized Spartans with psychological issues
: is something I really want to see explored.

Agreed. One thing that wasn't clear to me though is whether Ralph actually killed his clone or not. In the episode he says "I THINK I killed him." So this doesn't really mean he directly killed him. More of his story would be interesting to hear, before and after Spartan training. Seeing how someone trained to be a Spartan has to deal with then becoming a normal marine would be interesting...

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Homecoming and Ralph *SP*0postmortem0 2/28/10 5:16 p.m.
     Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*Metalingus627 2/28/10 5:34 p.m.
           Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*0postmortem0 2/28/10 5:36 p.m.
     Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*Urban Reflex 2/28/10 5:40 p.m.
           Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*Metalingus627 2/28/10 5:47 p.m.
                 Re: Homecoming and Ralph + Package *SP*Urban Reflex 2/28/10 5:52 p.m.
     Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*Phoenix_9286 2/28/10 6:08 p.m.
           Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*0postmortem0 2/28/10 6:21 p.m.
                 Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*Phoenix_9286 2/28/10 6:44 p.m.
           Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*TDSpiral 2/28/10 11:33 p.m.
           Re: Homecoming and Ralph *SP*vlad3163 2/28/10 11:50 p.m.



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