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My main concern
Posted By: AfroRyan <afroryan@gmail.com>Date: 12/6/09 3:37 a.m.

In Response To: The Package on Saturday (Frankie)


Now, I'm not going to complain about hair this time, seeing as you [Frankie] have clarified it as artistic license...which I interpret as "They drew big hair because they wanted to, but that doesn't make it canon." However, I have another small complaint that I would bet money is the same thing...or may simply be an oversight on whoever's in charge of overall continuity.

Despite the hair in "The Babysitter," I was happy to see that Cal was ghost white; one couldn't be paler without being transparent. However, I was saddened to see a typical "multiculture pals" group of Spartans. Don't take that the wrong way; I don't mean to imply that Spartans aren't made up of a wide group of racial groups...however, the books describe the Spartans as being, without much exception, pale. I realize that a pale 'white' person in comparison to a pale 'black' person would still be considerably 'whiter' than the pale 'black' person...but this particular group of Spartans seems to have seen plenty of sun, since I couldn't describe a single one as being 'pale' compared to someone of whatever race they happen to be.

This may seem nitpicky, but I have always thought of this trait (the pale factor) as a very important part of Spartan mythology. It shows that they hardly ever take off their armor; that they are 100% dedicated to their mission, their species, their creation. It sets them apart from the rest of humanity...in fact, Spartans are already so different from the average human, that you could argue that they are a separate, albeit artificial, ethnicity. They all live by the same code, morality, and culture. The differences between a Spartan (any Spartan) and any other human race/ethnicity should be immediately obvious...so obvious, in fact, that a Spartan would have a nearly impossible time blending into a crowd. Even ODSTs are indistinguishable from civilians when they are out of uniform...but the books have made it clear that the Spartans, even without armor, would have an almost impossible mission in blending in with society...except for Fred, apparently...which is funny, since "The Package" shows Fred as the only Spartan in the group to have any major scarring on his face; something that would make blending into a crowd significantly less easy.

The only other small problem I see is that the Spartans seem pretty...incompetent. I don't mean that to sound damning, it's just that Spartans (both individually and as a group) have been depicted as a well oiled military machine. Why are they referring to each other by name? Why aren't they using their Spartan numbers, or like many examples in the novels, using team tactics combined with color/number designations? I already think I know the answer; it's hard to attach a face/character to a number...so to help the audience connect emotionally to the characters, they are always referenced by name (The Babysitter did this too...they introduce the Spartan as Cal right from the beginning). It's just that the books mention many times that their names are generally kept secret and only the Spartan's number/rank is given/used outside of Spartans themselves, and even then they only refer to each other by their first name outside of combat (which is rare).

Overall, I've liked "The Package" a lot. I'm super pumped to see the ending, and I feel that I pretty much already have answers for all my little problems. It's unrealistic to view "Halo Legends" as anything but a cash-in (I don't mean that in a bad way). Although there are plenty of Halo fans that are also anime fans, it doesn't make much sense to think that Microsoft would commission something for that demographic. Those people and most Halo fans in general will buy it regardless. It's the anime fans who aren't Halo fans that Microsoft is trying to appeal to...and I doubt they would attract many new fans to the franchise by sticking strictly to the canon of the games/books. It's a little disappointing, but that's how it works. I'm still happy and eager to contribute to the franchise, even if it's being "dumbed down" (not to imply anime fans are dumb) for new fans so that they can process the new and exciting Halo universe...just don't expect us jaded old fans to accept everything (especially the 'little' things) presented as canon.


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The Package on SaturdayFrankie 12/4/09 9:42 p.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayGrimBrother One 12/4/09 9:58 p.m.
           Re: The Package on Saturdayzofinda 12/4/09 10:09 p.m.
                 Re: The Package on SaturdayJohn_117 12/4/09 11:02 p.m.
     I thought the Johnson jokes were over *NM*ZaneZavin 12/5/09 12:02 a.m.
           Re: I thought the Johnson jokes were overFrankie 12/5/09 12:06 a.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayTDSpiral 12/5/09 2:34 a.m.
     Re: The Package on Saturdayzofinda 12/5/09 2:35 a.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayArchilen 12/5/09 2:43 a.m.
     Re: The Package on Saturdaypadraig08 12/5/09 2:56 a.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayFrankie 12/5/09 11:01 a.m.
                 Re: The Package on Saturdaypadraig08 12/5/09 6:32 p.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayZeouterlimits 12/5/09 8:08 p.m.
                 Re: The Package on Saturdayscarab 12/6/09 2:53 a.m.
     No Steve Downes :_(reprobate 12/5/09 3:12 a.m.
           Re: No Steve Downes :_(Archilen 12/5/09 3:20 a.m.
                 Re: No Steve Downes :_(TDSpiral 12/5/09 3:39 a.m.
                 Re: No Steve Downes :_(reprobate 12/5/09 3:59 a.m.
                 Re: No Steve Downes :_(Bry 12/5/09 4:40 a.m.
                       Re: No Steve Downes :_(Frankie 12/5/09 10:45 a.m.
                             Re: No Steve Downes :_(Dundradal 12/5/09 11:24 a.m.
     Re: The Package on Saturdayscarab 12/5/09 5:06 a.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayBry 12/5/09 5:17 a.m.
                 Re: The Package on Saturdayscarab 12/5/09 5:24 a.m.
                       Re: The Package on SaturdayBry 12/5/09 5:28 a.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayEl Presidente81 12/5/09 6:17 a.m.
                 Re: The Package on Saturdaysharpsniper99 12/5/09 6:24 a.m.
                       Re: The Package on SaturdayLeisandir 12/5/09 8:17 a.m.
                             Re: The Package on SaturdayFrankie 12/5/09 11:02 a.m.
                                   Re: The Package on SaturdayLeisandir 12/5/09 5:22 p.m.
                 Nice and crisp now. :-)scarab 12/5/09 8:33 a.m.
                       Re: Nice and crisp now. :-)Frankie 12/5/09 10:58 a.m.
                 Re: The Package on SaturdayEl Presidente81 12/5/09 11:08 a.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayFrankie 12/5/09 11:00 a.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayVAVA Mk2 12/5/09 7:50 a.m.
     Booster Frames - handlingscarab 12/5/09 8:47 a.m.
     Questions for FrankieRyanTheHeretic 12/5/09 10:18 a.m.
           Re: Questions for FrankieBry 12/5/09 10:28 a.m.
           Re: Questions for FrankieFrankie 12/5/09 10:57 a.m.
                 My thoughts...Dundradal 12/5/09 11:50 a.m.
                       Re: My thoughts...Frankie 12/5/09 12:11 p.m.
                             Re: My thoughts...Dundradal 12/5/09 12:44 p.m.
                 To clarify some of what I meant...RyanTheHeretic 12/5/09 12:39 p.m.
                       Re: To clarify some of what I meant...Leviathan 12/5/09 1:12 p.m.
     Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.AngelicLionheart 12/5/09 10:38 a.m.
           Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Bry 12/5/09 10:48 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Frankie 12/5/09 10:52 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Bry 12/5/09 11:16 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.scarab 12/5/09 1:01 p.m.
                             Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Ibeechu 12/5/09 7:03 p.m.
                                   Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Bry 12/5/09 9:59 p.m.
                                         Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Ibeechu 12/5/09 10:11 p.m.
                                               Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Bry 12/5/09 10:52 p.m.
                                                     Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Ibeechu 12/6/09 8:54 a.m.
                                                           Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Bry 12/6/09 9:10 a.m.
                                               Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.SonofMacPhisto 12/6/09 9:59 a.m.
           Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Frankie 12/5/09 10:50 a.m.
                 Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.YNation913 12/5/09 11:25 a.m.
                       Re: Frankie's Answers about The Package, etc.Frankie 12/5/09 11:30 a.m.
                 Belgian ROFLSAngelicLionheart 12/5/09 12:09 p.m.
                       Re: Belgian ROFLSBlueNinja 12/5/09 12:34 p.m.
                             Re: Belgian ROFLSLouis Wu 12/5/09 12:45 p.m.
                                   Re: Belgian ROFLSBlueNinja 12/5/09 12:57 p.m.
                 RE: FRANKIEAngelicLionheart 12/7/09 12:42 p.m.
                       *cough*Vandle Valsher 12/8/09 3:58 p.m.
                             Re: *cough*AngelicLionheart 12/8/09 4:06 p.m.
                                   Silence fills the empty grave...Gilver 12/8/09 6:19 p.m.
                                         ...OH. *facepalm*AngelicLionheart 12/9/09 3:35 p.m.
                                               Can't resist a good storm off. *NM*Vandle Valsher 12/9/09 7:11 p.m.
                                   Re: *cough*AngelicLionheart 12/15/09 9:46 p.m.
                                         Re: *cough*AngelicLionheart 12/19/09 4:40 p.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayFyreWulff 12/5/09 11:27 a.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayFrankie 12/5/09 11:33 a.m.
                 Re: The Package on SaturdayYNation913 12/5/09 11:36 a.m.
                 Re: The Package on SaturdayFyreWulff 12/5/09 12:09 p.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayLouis Wu 12/5/09 11:36 a.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayBry 12/5/09 11:44 a.m.
                 Agreed *NM*Ibeechu 12/5/09 11:44 a.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayFrankie 12/5/09 12:12 p.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayIbeechu 12/5/09 11:44 a.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayAglor 12/5/09 11:56 a.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayRagashingo 12/5/09 12:50 p.m.
           Re: The Package on SaturdayFrankie 12/5/09 2:37 p.m.
     Something that impressed me...RyanTheHeretic 12/5/09 12:51 p.m.
           Re: Something that impressed me...Bry 12/5/09 1:01 p.m.
           Re: Something that impressed me...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/5/09 1:16 p.m.
     Holy Freaking Crap.GrimBrother One 12/5/09 1:04 p.m.
           Re: Holy Freaking Crap.Hedgemony 12/5/09 5:45 p.m.
                 This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*SnowJP 360 12/5/09 7:08 p.m.
                       Re: This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/5/09 8:47 p.m.
                       Re: This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*Bry 12/5/09 9:04 p.m.
                             Re: This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*SnowJP 360 12/6/09 11:07 a.m.
                                   Re: This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*Bry 12/6/09 11:54 a.m.
                       Re: This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*vlad3163 12/5/09 9:16 p.m.
                             Re: This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*Bry 12/5/09 9:44 p.m.
                       Re: This is getting to be too much *Rant-ish*Leviathan 12/5/09 10:40 p.m.
     Grooooan...Slothboy 12/5/09 7:23 p.m.
           Re: Grooooan...kanbo 12/5/09 7:47 p.m.
                 Carmine=Solomon *NM*rolandk73 12/5/09 9:08 p.m.
                       Re: Carmine=Solomonrolandk73 12/5/09 9:11 p.m.
     Awesome! Loved it! Itano Circus FTW!Gravemind 12/5/09 9:08 p.m.
           I gave it an 87/100 it lost points for acting *NM*rolandk73 12/5/09 9:12 p.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdayVandle Valsher 12/5/09 10:56 p.m.
     My main concernAfroRyan 12/6/09 3:37 a.m.
           Re: My main concernBlueNinja 12/6/09 5:02 a.m.
                 Re: My main concernCthulhu117 12/7/09 4:30 p.m.
     Re: The Package on SaturdaySonofMacPhisto 12/6/09 10:20 a.m.
     Frankie! Why does Kelly look like Linda!? *NM* *NM*Crucio 12/6/09 12:54 p.m.



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