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Re: Nope.
Posted By: Stephen L. (SoundEffect) <soundeffect@hotmail.com>Date: 10/14/09 4:26 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Nope. (Bry)


: *sighs* Last I'm saying on this because its really utterly pointless.

: 1) We're talking about a quote from a couple of years before ODST came out.
: It was around the time of Halo 3 as I recall.
: And even then, ODST doesn't really tell you anything about it. A few throw
: away lines from Buck that mean something if you know about Reach, and lose
: a lot of their significance if you don't. It is still left as little more
: than a word .

: 2) The lines in Halo 1 and 2, as I've said several times before, barely
: elaborate on what Reach was or its significance. You can gather it was
: important, whatever it was, but you have no idea why unless you've read
: the books.

: Its not about not really paying attention, you can pay a supreme amount of
: attention to the games. But things are still mentioned that have little
: meaning without additional material (such as a manual, an art book, a
: series of novels, following Bungie.net closely, Bungie interviews and
: panels, etc).

: Despite playing Halo and Halo 2 quite a fair bit, I can tell you that I
: didn't know what Reach really was until I got the novels either. It can
: just go over your head otherwise.
: So I can sympathise with the point they were trying to make.

: The Halo universe and story is diverse, but you wouldn't grasp that diversity
: or sense of history if you didn't stray beyond the games themselves.

: For example, if I hadn't read FoR, I know for a fact that most of the
: 'Cortana moments' in Halo 3 would have been utterly bizarre and
: meaningless.

: In light of this, I think Tycho made a pretty fair comment at the time about
: the story telling as applied to the Halo Universe and the games.
: Most of the juicy story stuff is found in other media.

Outside the novels, Reach is mentioned prominently in the opening preamble in the Halo 1 Xbox manual. That was likely most people's introduction to it. Here it is for nostalgia's sake:

The year is 2552. Planet Earth still exists, but overpopulation has forced many of her former residents to colonize other worlds. Faster-than-light travel is now a reality, and Earth's unified government, through the United Nations Space Command, has put its full weight behind the colonization effort; millions of humans now live on habitable planets in other solar systems. A keystone of humanity's colonization efforts is the planet Reach, an interstellar naval yard that builds colony ships for civilians and warships for the UNSC's armed forces. Conveniently close to Earth, Reach is also a hub of scientific and military activity.

Thirty-two years ago, contact with the outer colony Harvest was lost. A battlegroup sent to investigate was almost completely destroyed; only one badly damaged ship returned to Reach. Its crew told of a seemingly unstoppable alien warship that had effortlessly annihilated their forces.

This was humankind's first encounter with a group of aliens they eventually came to know as the Covenant, a collective of alien races united in their fanatical religious devotion. Covenant religious elders declared humanity an affront to the gods, and the Covenant warrior caste waged a holy war upon humanity with gruesome diligence.

After a series of crushing defeats and obliterated colonies, UNSC Admiral Preston Cole established the Cole Protocol: no vessel may inadvertently lead the Covenant to Earth. When forced to withdraw, ships must avoid Earth-bound vectors -- even if that means jumping without proper navigational calculations. Vessels in danger of capture must self-destruct.

On Reach, a secret military project to create cyborg super-soldiers takes on newfound importance. The soldiers of the SPARTAN-II project rack up an impressive record against the Covenant in test deployments, but there are too few of them to turn the tide of the war.

Existing SPARTAN-II soldiers are recalled to Reach for further augmentation. The plan: board a Covenant vessel with the improved SPARTAN-IIs and learn the location of the Covenant home world. Two days before the mission begins, Covenant forces strike Reach and annihilate the colony. The Covenant are now on Earth's doorstep. One ship, the Pillar of Autumn, escapes with the last SPARTAN-II and makes a blind jump into deep space, hoping to lead the Covenant away from Earth.

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Brutes > ElitesRiceatron 10/13/09 7:38 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesGordon Freeman 10/13/09 7:50 p.m.
     Re: Elites > Brutes for Reach. Wort Wort Wort! *NM*rhubarb 10/13/09 7:51 p.m.
     No.gunluva 10/13/09 7:51 p.m.
     Dinosaurs > MammalsMetalingus627 10/13/09 7:58 p.m.
           Re: Dinosaurs > MammalsIbeechu 10/13/09 8:02 p.m.
           Jackals = Dinosaurs, Elites = Snakemansharks *NM*Riceatron 10/13/09 8:10 p.m.
                 Re: Jackals = Dinosaurs, Elites = SnakemansharksLincoln 10/13/09 8:15 p.m.
           Re: Dinosaurs > MammalsBry 10/14/09 4:41 a.m.
     Brutes = Elitesfree 10/13/09 8:24 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesFyreWulff 10/13/09 8:53 p.m.
           Re: Brutes > Elitesscarab 10/14/09 7:41 a.m.
     We need more characters to represent the races.Leviathan 10/13/09 9:32 p.m.
     Is this a poem...?stan 10/13/09 9:41 p.m.
     Nope.Hawaiian Pig 10/13/09 9:45 p.m.
           Completely agreeAvateur 10/13/09 9:54 p.m.
                 Re: Completely agreeRiceatron 10/13/09 10:05 p.m.
                       Re: Completely agreeAvateur 10/13/09 10:20 p.m.
                             Re: Completely agreeRiceatron 10/13/09 10:26 p.m.
                             Re: Completely agreescarab 10/14/09 8:27 a.m.
                             Re: Completely agreeThe More Deluded 10/14/09 1:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Completely agreefree 10/14/09 8:00 p.m.
                                         Re: Completely agreeStephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 8:41 p.m.
                                               Re: Completely agreefree 10/14/09 10:55 p.m.
                       Re: Completely agreeSonofMacPhisto 10/13/09 10:25 p.m.
                             Re: Completely agreeArteenEsben 10/14/09 12:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Completely agreeSonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 10:28 a.m.
                 The Truthpete_the_duck 10/14/09 6:08 a.m.
                       Re: The Truthscarab 10/14/09 9:12 a.m.
                             Great post *NM*SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 10:24 a.m.
                                   Thanks :-) *NM*scarab 10/14/09 11:41 a.m.
                             Re: The TruthBry 10/14/09 11:49 a.m.
                                   Re: The TruthAvateur 10/14/09 12:11 p.m.
                             PeoplenessRockslider 10/14/09 6:31 p.m.
                                   Re: Peoplenessscarab 10/15/09 3:28 a.m.
                       Re: The TruthHawaiian Pig 10/14/09 2:18 p.m.
                             Re: The TruthGravemind 10/15/09 7:51 p.m.
                                   Re: The TruthGeneral Vagueness 10/16/09 12:14 a.m.
           Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/13/09 10:14 p.m.
                 Re: Nope.Hawaiian Pig 10/13/09 10:23 p.m.
                       Re: Nope.jazo 10/13/09 10:53 p.m.
                 Re: Nope.The More Deluded 10/14/09 1:20 p.m.
           Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 4:45 a.m.
                 Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/14/09 9:20 a.m.
                       Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 10:25 a.m.
                             Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/14/09 11:26 a.m.
                                   Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 11:34 a.m.
                                         Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 3:53 p.m.
                                               Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Louis Wu 10/14/09 3:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 4:06 p.m.
                                                           Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Louis Wu 10/14/09 4:08 p.m.
                                                           Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Bry 10/14/09 4:10 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/14/09 4:14 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Bry 10/14/09 5:07 p.m.
                                   Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 11:36 a.m.
                                         Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/14/09 3:02 p.m.
                                               Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 3:33 p.m.
                                                     Re: Nope.Metalingus627 10/14/09 4:16 p.m.
                                                           Re: Nope.Metalingus627 10/14/09 4:25 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 4:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: Nope.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 4:26 p.m.
                                                     Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/15/09 7:38 p.m.
                                                           Re: Nope.Bry 10/16/09 4:15 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/16/09 8:43 a.m.
     Brutes and Elites are both greatArteenEsben 10/13/09 9:49 p.m.
           Re: Brutes and Elites are both greatT07WRX5 10/14/09 9:02 a.m.
                 Re: Brutes and Elites are both greatArteenEsben 10/14/09 11:33 a.m.
                 Re: Brutes and Elites are both greatBry 10/14/09 11:54 a.m.
     but brutes are so easy...Hunt3r 10/13/09 10:52 p.m.
           Re: but brutes are so easy...The More Deluded 10/14/09 1:34 p.m.
     Go back and play Halo 1jazo 10/13/09 11:08 p.m.
           Re: Go back and play Halo 1SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 8:09 a.m.
           Re: Go back and play Halo 1The More Deluded 10/15/09 2:13 p.m.
           Oh please.Riceatron 10/15/09 3:16 p.m.
                 Re: Oh please.Hawaiian Pig 10/15/09 3:31 p.m.
                       Re: Oh please.Riceatron 10/15/09 3:40 p.m.
                             Looking more like a troll everytime I come back... *NM*The More Deluded 10/15/09 7:02 p.m.
                                   lol i trol u wid mah 1337 leterzRiceatron 10/15/09 7:14 p.m.
                                   Michael Wincott > RicatronTHe BS Police 10/15/09 11:46 p.m.
                       Re: Oh please.Bry 10/15/09 3:59 p.m.
           Re: Go back and play Halo 1FyreWulff 10/15/09 8:04 p.m.
     Elites > H2 Brutes > H3 BrutesThe BS Police 10/13/09 11:37 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesRockslider 10/14/09 5:19 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesThe BS Police 10/15/09 1:57 p.m.



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