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Re: Brutes > Elites
Posted By: Gordon FreemanDate: 10/13/09 7:50 p.m.

In Response To: Brutes > Elites (Riceatron)


: I suspect a good bit of you are pretty butthurt over what happened to your
: precious Eweetz in Hawo Too.
: Ya know, those mean 'ol bwoots

: When a game is meant to be played on Heroic and not Normal or Easy, then
: having an Enemy who is practically a Bullet Sponge and uses Melee
: constantly is a great challenge for the player.
: And for story reasons, why couldn't we have Brutes?
: Or Drones for that matter.
: We HAVE an explanation for Drones.

: They were ENGINEERS
: Exactly like the Huragok, but for where Huragok was for the software and
: computers of the Covenant, the Yanme'e was used for Hardware, the building
: and constructing of ships and defenses.

: We never saw them in battle because they weren't a species USED FOR BATTLE.

: Brutes, I mean, look at them.
: They're BRUTES.
: They're Giant Wolf Monkeys
: You say they can't be as good as elites, that they act stereotypically evil,
: and are no fun to fight.
: Who are you kidding?

: Get over it.
: We haven't fought Elites since 2004 when Halo 2 came out, and ever since
: you've all been complaining about how everything new is shoehorned in.
: For the Covenant.

: I have not seen once someone ask why we suddenly have all these new weapons
: being made during the sequels, or why Bungie can't stay consistent with
: their portrayal of Humanity at all, from changing great designs of cities
: which look like they fit in the Halo universe, to stuff like what we have
: in New Mombasa, which is basically just every building we ALREADY have,
: pasted together, and slapped with fictional corporate logos. Or the design
: of Human armor. From awesome Aliens inspired armor, which Inspired the
: whole of the Halo universe, to craptastic armor in Halo 2, to Great but
: not as good as the giant hunks of brown steel in Halo CE.

: At least the enemy has stayed consistent and evil, hm?

: I love Brutes.
: And I'm sure most of you would too if you stop thinking Bungie wronged you in
: some way by introducing a new species.

: Brutes are more fun to fight than Elites.
: They really are.
: But they need to be Bullet Sponges as well as Shielded Enemies.
: How they are in 3 and ODST needs to go.
: An EMP + Headshot is too easy a way to kill an enemy.
: I want someone I have to run away from, like I do Hammerbrutes.

: As for Story reasons why I love them.
: Just look at them.
: Imagine how they lived.
: Compare them to Chimps, which are mighty vicious creatures known to
: cannibalize on fallen foes.

: Imagine a pack of Jiralhanae climbing into the tall trees of Doisac, wielding
: their hammers and knives and whatever brute designed weapons they have.
: Imagine a Chieftain of this particular clan yelling from the back in his
: native grunts and language to attack an unsuspecting clan.
: Think of how Native Americans attacked unsuspecting Colonial Pioneers during
: the early days of America, jumping from trees with their hatches and war
: cries.
: Imagine a large pack of these Brutes, jumping from high trees and landing on
: this unknowing community, killing all who oppose them, and stealing their
: females and children.

: Now, Imagine such a being being confronted with The Covenant, seeing more
: species, learning of these new gods which overtook their own.
: Imagine their role in this new place, this place of High Charity, and aboard
: Ships.

: Think of them in the same way one thinks of the Lekgolo.
: Bouncers.
: Where the Hunters are deployed as mobile turrets, the Brutes were deployed
: like hired barbarians.
: They could take more damage than the rest, and when they needed Hunters to
: stay back and fire their cannons, these Brutes would be in front, tearing
: down emplacements and clearing a path for the much more noble Elites, who
: would prefer not to do the 'dishonorable' work that the Brutes were more
: than capable of.

: Imagine the tensions.
: How the Elites, all high in their ego, look down on them as filthy animals,
: and how the Brutes look as them as arrogant and egotistic in their ways.
: The Brutes would be bottom tier compared to the Grunts in the eyes of the
: Sangheili, as the Grunts would be more useful in a group. Look at those
: who stayed with the Covenant.
: The Drones, who only stayed due to their Queen being in the Covenants care,
: many of the Hunters, who may not have had any opinion of the war, but
: enjoyed having their colonies taken care of, and the Jackals, who I
: suspect the Brutes were very close to, both being very vicious creatures
: looked down upon by the rest, even the Unggoy.

: I can see Brutes and Jackals hanging out, discussing how they like to tear
: into their enemies during a battle with their claws, and teeth.

: Think of their religion.
: Gods of War and Destruction. Kindly Gods for those who stay at Home.
: Gods wielding Hammers and Axes and Spike weapons.

: What would their stories be?
: Would they be told around a fire? Or to their growing young at night?

: How were they raised?
: Can we compare them to primates again? Those who care for young, and are
: gentle to their family, but vicious to enemies?

: Anyway
: The point I was trying to make is that Brutes are awesome.



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Replies:

Brutes > ElitesRiceatron 10/13/09 7:38 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesGordon Freeman 10/13/09 7:50 p.m.
     Re: Elites > Brutes for Reach. Wort Wort Wort! *NM*rhubarb 10/13/09 7:51 p.m.
     No.gunluva 10/13/09 7:51 p.m.
     Dinosaurs > MammalsMetalingus627 10/13/09 7:58 p.m.
           Re: Dinosaurs > MammalsIbeechu 10/13/09 8:02 p.m.
           Jackals = Dinosaurs, Elites = Snakemansharks *NM*Riceatron 10/13/09 8:10 p.m.
                 Re: Jackals = Dinosaurs, Elites = SnakemansharksLincoln 10/13/09 8:15 p.m.
           Re: Dinosaurs > MammalsBry 10/14/09 4:41 a.m.
     Brutes = Elitesfree 10/13/09 8:24 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesFyreWulff 10/13/09 8:53 p.m.
           Re: Brutes > Elitesscarab 10/14/09 7:41 a.m.
     We need more characters to represent the races.Leviathan 10/13/09 9:32 p.m.
     Is this a poem...?stan 10/13/09 9:41 p.m.
     Nope.Hawaiian Pig 10/13/09 9:45 p.m.
           Completely agreeAvateur 10/13/09 9:54 p.m.
                 Re: Completely agreeRiceatron 10/13/09 10:05 p.m.
                       Re: Completely agreeAvateur 10/13/09 10:20 p.m.
                             Re: Completely agreeRiceatron 10/13/09 10:26 p.m.
                             Re: Completely agreescarab 10/14/09 8:27 a.m.
                             Re: Completely agreeThe More Deluded 10/14/09 1:06 p.m.
                                   Re: Completely agreefree 10/14/09 8:00 p.m.
                                         Re: Completely agreeStephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 8:41 p.m.
                                               Re: Completely agreefree 10/14/09 10:55 p.m.
                       Re: Completely agreeSonofMacPhisto 10/13/09 10:25 p.m.
                             Re: Completely agreeArteenEsben 10/14/09 12:05 a.m.
                                   Re: Completely agreeSonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 10:28 a.m.
                 The Truthpete_the_duck 10/14/09 6:08 a.m.
                       Re: The Truthscarab 10/14/09 9:12 a.m.
                             Great post *NM*SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 10:24 a.m.
                                   Thanks :-) *NM*scarab 10/14/09 11:41 a.m.
                             Re: The TruthBry 10/14/09 11:49 a.m.
                                   Re: The TruthAvateur 10/14/09 12:11 p.m.
                             PeoplenessRockslider 10/14/09 6:31 p.m.
                                   Re: Peoplenessscarab 10/15/09 3:28 a.m.
                       Re: The TruthHawaiian Pig 10/14/09 2:18 p.m.
                             Re: The TruthGravemind 10/15/09 7:51 p.m.
                                   Re: The TruthGeneral Vagueness 10/16/09 12:14 a.m.
           Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/13/09 10:14 p.m.
                 Re: Nope.Hawaiian Pig 10/13/09 10:23 p.m.
                       Re: Nope.jazo 10/13/09 10:53 p.m.
                 Re: Nope.The More Deluded 10/14/09 1:20 p.m.
           Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 4:45 a.m.
                 Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/14/09 9:20 a.m.
                       Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 10:25 a.m.
                             Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/14/09 11:26 a.m.
                                   Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 11:34 a.m.
                                         Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 3:53 p.m.
                                               Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Louis Wu 10/14/09 3:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 4:06 p.m.
                                                           Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Louis Wu 10/14/09 4:08 p.m.
                                                           Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Bry 10/14/09 4:10 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 10/14/09 4:14 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Slight rabbit trail for you guys... :)Bry 10/14/09 5:07 p.m.
                                   Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 11:36 a.m.
                                         Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/14/09 3:02 p.m.
                                               Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 3:33 p.m.
                                                     Re: Nope.Metalingus627 10/14/09 4:16 p.m.
                                                           Re: Nope.Metalingus627 10/14/09 4:25 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Nope.Bry 10/14/09 4:55 p.m.
                                                     Re: Nope.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 10/14/09 4:26 p.m.
                                                     Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/15/09 7:38 p.m.
                                                           Re: Nope.Bry 10/16/09 4:15 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Nope.General Vagueness 10/16/09 8:43 a.m.
     Brutes and Elites are both greatArteenEsben 10/13/09 9:49 p.m.
           Re: Brutes and Elites are both greatT07WRX5 10/14/09 9:02 a.m.
                 Re: Brutes and Elites are both greatArteenEsben 10/14/09 11:33 a.m.
                 Re: Brutes and Elites are both greatBry 10/14/09 11:54 a.m.
     but brutes are so easy...Hunt3r 10/13/09 10:52 p.m.
           Re: but brutes are so easy...The More Deluded 10/14/09 1:34 p.m.
     Go back and play Halo 1jazo 10/13/09 11:08 p.m.
           Re: Go back and play Halo 1SonofMacPhisto 10/14/09 8:09 a.m.
           Re: Go back and play Halo 1The More Deluded 10/15/09 2:13 p.m.
           Oh please.Riceatron 10/15/09 3:16 p.m.
                 Re: Oh please.Hawaiian Pig 10/15/09 3:31 p.m.
                       Re: Oh please.Riceatron 10/15/09 3:40 p.m.
                             Looking more like a troll everytime I come back... *NM*The More Deluded 10/15/09 7:02 p.m.
                                   lol i trol u wid mah 1337 leterzRiceatron 10/15/09 7:14 p.m.
                                   Michael Wincott > RicatronTHe BS Police 10/15/09 11:46 p.m.
                       Re: Oh please.Bry 10/15/09 3:59 p.m.
           Re: Go back and play Halo 1FyreWulff 10/15/09 8:04 p.m.
     Elites > H2 Brutes > H3 BrutesThe BS Police 10/13/09 11:37 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesRockslider 10/14/09 5:19 p.m.
     Re: Brutes > ElitesThe BS Police 10/15/09 1:57 p.m.



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