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Re: Ars Technica pans ODST
Posted By: rolandk73	Date: 9/21/09 6:20 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Ars Technica pans ODST (Narcogen) : You mean, like back when they took fire and ambient life out of Myth? : Or when they ported Marathon 2 to Windows and the mouse controls didn't work? : You mean, those times when Bungie could do no wrong? : Or maybe it was the time when Bungie created a great multiplayer game that : was marred only by a single weapon so powerful you'd be crazy to ever drop : it, but that lacked Internet multiplayer? : Or the time they added online multiplayer to that game, but took out : everyone's favorite weapon? : Those times when Bungie could do no wrong? : I think it'd be incorrect to assume that there's been some kind of sea change : here, or that if there has been one, that it occurs between Halo 3 and : ODST. : I think the more likelier trends at work here are, in no particular order: 1) : No matter how popular a company is, nobody likes everything they do : 2) At some point things become so popular the only way to be heard when : talking about it is to be negative : 3) ODST was initially described as something akin to an expansion that would : be "value priced" and is now a full price item. : Certainly I think some outlets might still have concluded that the value in : the box of ODST isn't quite what it was for the previous titles, but I : think it'd be far fewer if it had been priced that way from the start. : Frankly I think there's some value in getting something out the door in less : than three years. If they could put out something like ODST every year for : that price, I might wince a bit but I'd probably do it. A short campaign, : a new multiplayer mode, a few new maps, perhaps a new weapon or two and a : vehicle, in 12 months... I'd go for that. : Heck, that'd be close to being episodic. Like Half-Life 2 was supposed to be : before it turned out each episode took as long to make as the original : game (which is about as long as it takes to make a full Halo title : anyway). : One last word on that review: "I've since gone back to play the game : again on Heroic difficulty in single-player, and I can see where the : six-hour playthrough times are coming from." : He went back to play on Heroic. Meaning the first playthrough, the one he : said you could finish "on your lunch hour" was on Normal. : He's going to chastise Bungie for the hub and spoke model as being : "filler" because Halo fans "don't want to explore an empty : city" and then plays a new title on Normal? I'm not sure he knows : what Halo fans want. I count myself a Halo fan, and what I love more than : anything are the worlds Bungie creates. I want to spend more time in them, : not rush through as fast as I can. And I don't start out on Normal. If I : start out on Heroic it's because I know I suck. Reviewers seem to play : games on lower difficulties so they can breeze through and finish the game : to write a review, and then blame the game for being short. It's a : self-fulfilling property. Maybe Bungie ought to send out special reviewer : copies locked to Heroic or above. That's it, that has to be done. No more reviewers will be allowed to play under heroic.

Message Index

Ars Technica pans ODST	Jordan117	9/21/09 12:36 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	PsychoRaven	9/21/09 12:42 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	Hedgemony	9/21/09 12:47 a.m.
SPOILER (not really)	Lord Osiris	9/21/09 1:03 a.m.
Re: I'm right there with you *NM*	Hedgemony	9/21/09 1:07 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	Cody Miller	9/21/09 2:11 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	PsychoRaven	9/21/09 2:56 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST whoa, whoa	Hedgemony	9/21/09 3:03 a.m.
You're right	PsychoRaven	9/21/09 3:07 a.m.
Ugh I'm calling it.	PsychoRaven	9/21/09 3:09 a.m.
Re: Ugh I'm calling it.	Hedgemony	9/21/09 4:56 a.m.
Sorry about the angry reply	PsychoRaven	9/21/09 3:05 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	Narcogen	9/21/09 5:03 a.m.
Re: Ever the voice of reason, Narcogen	Hedgemony	9/21/09 5:50 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	Blackstar	9/21/09 5:52 a.m.
Stacker.	Narcogen	9/22/09 2:55 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	rolandk73	9/21/09 6:20 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	PsychoRaven	9/21/09 11:01 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	Cody Miller	9/21/09 12:18 p.m.
Blame Microsoft's Men in Black?	kapowaz	9/21/09 7:03 p.m.
Saxaphone trouble	Rockslider	9/21/09 7:53 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Narcogen	9/22/09 3:00 a.m.
I hope I'm not the first to say this...	stan	9/22/09 10:33 p.m.
The only thing I don't like about it...	Jordan117	9/22/09 10:50 p.m.
Re: I hope I'm not the first to say this...	Ibeechu	9/23/09 9:27 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	FyreWulff	9/23/09 12:16 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Louis Wu	9/23/09 12:25 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Narcogen	9/23/09 11:50 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	FyreWulff	9/24/09 12:56 a.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Narcogen	9/24/09 2:05 a.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Rockslider	9/23/09 5:13 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Bry	9/23/09 5:40 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Narcogen	9/23/09 11:51 p.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/25/09 11:08 a.m.
Re: Saxaphone trouble	Rockslider	9/26/09 7:00 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	Ragashingo	9/21/09 12:51 a.m.
Re: Ars Technica pans ODST	electrojew	9/21/09 2:13 a.m.
How odd...	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	9/21/09 10:51 a.m.
Re: How odd...	DogCow	9/22/09 10:38 a.m.