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Posted By: yakaman | Date: 6/10/08 12:50 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood (Empty Set) : This is how I always interpreted that terminal, but Urban Reflex makes an : interesting point about differentiating between the infection and the : host. I read three ways to interpret this information: 1. The Halo blast : kills flood outright - at least, it kills flood forms of sufficient : biomass. That matches the terminal account, but it conflicts with : everything we were told about the flood previously. : 2. The Halo blast only kills the host. This would leave Mendicant's ships : adrift, filled with forerunner corpses and swarms of infection forms that : removed themselves from the inert bodies. The infection forms live on, but : are incapable of piloting the ship, and will be destroyed as OB destroys : the fleet. : 3. The Halo blast kills infected hosts, and the infection entity, since it is : tied too deeply into the host's nervous system. (We see infection forms : reanimate "dead" combat forms, but do we ever see infection : forms retract themselves from a host in-game?) : For practical purposes, options 2 and 3 are distinctions without a difference
: (What about pure forms?) : Where I'm going: where is it ever stated that the Gravemind was destroyed in
: We really don't know the composition of the Gravemind - we know (at most)
: The Halo Array was built prior to the deployment of Mendicant Bias. If MB
: Perhaps the Gravemind "smuggled" itself aboard Installation 05
I was about to be like "what do you mean we don't have any proof it kills Graveminds..." when I realized we don't. I guess I just always assumed it did. Why were the Flood building a brain form in H1? Wouldn't an existing Gravemind be sufficent? It must not be, right, since the recent WWU Smuggler messages suggest a GM has been around for at least 300 years. IMO, Halo Installations are not exempt from the Halo Effects - otherwise why even have Shield Worlds like Onyx? Think of how elaborate it was (Micro Dyson Sphere et al). Unless a Halo could make it's entire biosphere slide into slipspace, I don't see how this is likely. So...could Gravemind have survived the Halo Effect? If so, wouldn't Offensive Bias have tracked him down and destroyed him? Would Didact? I think it is imperative for the sake of the fiction to assume all Flood, including Gravemind were destroyed in the Halo Effect (exception: Infection Forms). Otherwise, with what confidence could the Forerunner execute their plan? Gravemind might be rendered powerless, but I just cannot accept that the Forerunner would overlook a still active Gravemind. No bleeping way. What if Gravemind was in a ship with SlipSpace capability? Put it this way: I'll need really, REALLY concrete evidence that Gravemind survived the Halo Effect.
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The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/7/08 4:00 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Ze Møøse | 6/7/08 1:05 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Omega | 6/7/08 4:26 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/7/08 5:28 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | De Laal | 6/7/08 10:22 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | De Laal | 6/7/08 10:26 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/7/08 10:43 p.m. |
Correct | yakaman | 6/8/08 10:39 a.m. |
Re: Correct | SPARTAN-034 | 6/8/08 11:01 a.m. |
Re: Correct | Bry | 6/8/08 3:00 p.m. |
Re: Correct | yakaman | 6/8/08 5:29 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Bry | 6/8/08 6:48 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Cthulhu117 | 6/8/08 7:24 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Bry | 6/8/08 8:10 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Avateur | 6/8/08 9:53 p.m. |
Re: Correct | elpolloguapo | 6/9/08 10:09 a.m. |
You Suck *NM* | Don | 6/9/08 11:44 a.m. |
No-Clipping Fish | SonofMacPhisto | 6/11/08 12:50 a.m. |
Beating that horse, nice and hard | De Laal | 6/8/08 11:47 p.m. |
Just some speculation... | Free Weights | 6/9/08 1:48 p.m. |
Re: Correct | asd1070 | 6/12/08 11:05 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 8:26 a.m. |
Re: Correct | asd1070 | 6/15/08 3:41 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Dirkgently | 6/16/08 3:29 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | General Vagueness | 6/9/08 8:56 p.m. |
Sorry about the errors | General Vagueness | 6/9/08 8:58 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Omega | 6/9/08 10:11 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Kurk | 6/10/08 12:41 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 1:29 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/10/08 3:24 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Urban Reflex | 6/10/08 3:52 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 5:56 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | yakaman | 6/10/08 8:28 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Urban Reflex | 6/10/08 9:22 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 11:55 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Don | 6/10/08 12:09 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 12:12 p.m. |
Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | yakaman | 6/10/08 8:23 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Empty Set | 6/10/08 10:44 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 11:52 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | 7he grunt w/a plasma pistol | 6/10/08 3:11 p.m. |
Nice post. | yakaman | 6/10/08 12:50 p.m. |
Re: Nice post. | GatchamanUK | 6/10/08 1:30 p.m. |
Re: Nice post. | Empty Set | 6/10/08 4:11 p.m. |
All right, here's the problem here. | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 8:16 p.m. |
Re: All right, here's the problem here. | yakaman | 6/11/08 8:13 a.m. |
Re: All right, here's the problem here. | Empty Set | 6/11/08 10:23 a.m. |
Re: All right, here's the problem here. | Dirkgently | 6/12/08 6:11 p.m. |
Re: Nice post. | yakaman | 6/11/08 8:18 a.m. |
Keyes Wasn't a GM Form | SonofMacPhisto | 6/11/08 12:44 a.m. |
Re: Keyes Wasn't a GM Form | elpolloguapo | 6/11/08 9:59 a.m. |
Did GM survive the Array? | Capt Spanish | 6/13/08 1:37 a.m. |
I agree whole-heartedly | yakaman | 6/13/08 12:23 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | DHalo | 6/13/08 2:52 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 3:32 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | DHalo | 6/13/08 4:03 p.m. |
It absolutely kills Flood, and Gravemind. | yakaman | 6/13/08 4:33 p.m. |
Well said *NM* | scarab | 6/13/08 4:39 p.m. |
Re: It absolutely kills Flood, and Gravemind. | DHalo | 6/13/08 4:50 p.m. |
Halo: Story Evolved | scarab | 6/13/08 5:44 p.m. |
Re: Halo: Story Evolved | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 6:14 p.m. |
No, I misremembered. *NM* | scarab | 6/14/08 12:35 a.m. |
Re: It absolutely kills Flood, and Gravemind. | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 6:06 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 6/13/08 8:30 p.m. |
Heh. It doesn't get more direct than that. *NM* | yakaman | 6/14/08 7:31 a.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | Empty Set | 6/13/08 6:30 p.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | DHalo | 6/13/08 6:55 p.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 7:01 p.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | Capt Spanish | 6/13/08 7:21 p.m. |
My opinion's out there on this | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 10:52 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Peptuck | 6/10/08 12:03 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | yakaman | 6/10/08 12:52 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 2:05 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 8:27 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 8:33 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 8:51 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 9:00 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Free Weights | 6/10/08 11:04 p.m. |
Halo effect uses Flood telepathy ;-) | scarab | 6/11/08 1:13 a.m. |
Re: Halo effect uses Flood telepathy ;-) | free weights | 6/11/08 8:00 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Bry | 6/10/08 6:16 p.m. |
Is that like being only slightly pregnant? *NM* | scarab | 6/11/08 1:16 a.m. |
Ha | Bry | 6/11/08 3:56 a.m. |
Re: Is that like being only slightly pregnant? | elessar787 | 6/12/08 12:05 a.m. |
All together now: EEEWWWWWWWW *NM* | General Vagueness | 6/12/08 7:54 a.m. |
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