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Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | |
Posted By: De Laal <paradox_113@yahoo.com> | Date: 6/7/08 10:22 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? (Omega) : All of the information necessary to place these in the overall timeline is : contained within: LOG: QUERIED ADJACENT FACILITIES says that 874068942 : hours, 4 minutes, and 46 seconds have passed since an outside agent : accessed Delta Halo. That’s 99713.3117 years (given a 365.2425 day year). : REPORT: SECURITY BREACH was sent 2512332 hours, 14 minutes, and 6 seconds : after initial containment failure. That’s 286.6055 years (given a 365.2425 : day year). 286.6055 + 99713.3117 = 9999.9172 years. I’ll call that 100,000 : years for the sake of the simplicity. : Now it’s certain that the initial containment failure occurred in the 2260s
: The question I’ll end with is this: If REPORT: SECURITY BREACH takes place
I agree with you here - I've often wondered about the nature of the Flood's outbreak on the Delta Halo - it's extremely unclear (referring ONLY to the events of Halo 2, not to these logs) in Halo 2 whether or not the Flood had already been released/broken out, or if the Covenant had made much the same mistake as they had on the Alpha Halo - releasing the Flood. If the first is correct, which it seems to be, given the nature of the "superintendent logs," that the Flood had been released due to mechanical failure in containment systems (or external sabotage?) then I have to wonder as to how the Flood managed to subvert/capture Penitent Tangent - presumably the Forerunner wouldn't keep Gravemind-level specimens in their Flood containment/research centers. If I'm correct that the bio-mass of the Flood was limited to Infection forms only, it doesn't seem to me that Penitent Tangent could have been captured as quickly as it appears that he was here (a matter of hours). After all, there were not (presumably) any viable hosts for the Flood to infect and consume and transform into Combat forms and eventually, a Gravemind... Which points to the second possible/plausible method of the Flood's release on the Delta Halo - external intervention (sabotage, as suggested by Avateur) - but not by the Covenant or Humanity circa Halo 2, because these logs mention a date almost three hundred years before the events of Halo 2 - in 2552 (2512332 hours is approximately 286 years, hence Omega's guess at 2260). And yet the logs also state that there had been no external exploration of the installations for approx. 99713 years, plus or minus seven, from a date 286 years ago. Omega also alludes to this - if you add the time elapsed from external incursion and the time since outbreak, the sum is roughly 100,000 years. Which is presumably the length of time since the initial firing of the Halo array. The mentioning of a lack of external intervention for ninety-nine thousand years plus, seems to imply that sabotage is a possibility. Is, in fact, quite likely. Thus, if the Forerunner only kept Infection-level Flood forms for study (as indicated by the Gas-Mine facility on/in Threshold in Halo 2, and the implied destruction of the Gravemind from the Halo effect mentioned in Halo 3's terminals) it's more than likely that a bit less than three hundred years since the events of the Halo series SOMEBODY found the Delta Halo, released the Flood, and provided sufficient bio-mass for the Flood to both assemble a Gravemind and capture Penitent Tangent... without giving the Flood a ship with faster-than-light capabilities.
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The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/7/08 4:00 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Ze Møøse | 6/7/08 1:05 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Omega | 6/7/08 4:26 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/7/08 5:28 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | De Laal | 6/7/08 10:22 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | De Laal | 6/7/08 10:26 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/7/08 10:43 p.m. |
Correct | yakaman | 6/8/08 10:39 a.m. |
Re: Correct | SPARTAN-034 | 6/8/08 11:01 a.m. |
Re: Correct | Bry | 6/8/08 3:00 p.m. |
Re: Correct | yakaman | 6/8/08 5:29 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Bry | 6/8/08 6:48 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Cthulhu117 | 6/8/08 7:24 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Bry | 6/8/08 8:10 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Avateur | 6/8/08 9:53 p.m. |
Re: Correct | elpolloguapo | 6/9/08 10:09 a.m. |
You Suck *NM* | Don | 6/9/08 11:44 a.m. |
No-Clipping Fish | SonofMacPhisto | 6/11/08 12:50 a.m. |
Beating that horse, nice and hard | De Laal | 6/8/08 11:47 p.m. |
Just some speculation... | Free Weights | 6/9/08 1:48 p.m. |
Re: Correct | asd1070 | 6/12/08 11:05 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 8:26 a.m. |
Re: Correct | asd1070 | 6/15/08 3:41 p.m. |
Re: Correct | Dirkgently | 6/16/08 3:29 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | General Vagueness | 6/9/08 8:56 p.m. |
Sorry about the errors | General Vagueness | 6/9/08 8:58 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Omega | 6/9/08 10:11 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Kurk | 6/10/08 12:41 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 1:29 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Avateur | 6/10/08 3:24 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Urban Reflex | 6/10/08 3:52 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 5:56 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | yakaman | 6/10/08 8:28 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Urban Reflex | 6/10/08 9:22 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 11:55 a.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Don | 6/10/08 12:09 p.m. |
Re: The Smuggler, Part 2? | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 12:12 p.m. |
Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | yakaman | 6/10/08 8:23 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Empty Set | 6/10/08 10:44 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Speedhuntr | 6/10/08 11:52 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | 7he grunt w/a plasma pistol | 6/10/08 3:11 p.m. |
Nice post. | yakaman | 6/10/08 12:50 p.m. |
Re: Nice post. | GatchamanUK | 6/10/08 1:30 p.m. |
Re: Nice post. | Empty Set | 6/10/08 4:11 p.m. |
All right, here's the problem here. | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 8:16 p.m. |
Re: All right, here's the problem here. | yakaman | 6/11/08 8:13 a.m. |
Re: All right, here's the problem here. | Empty Set | 6/11/08 10:23 a.m. |
Re: All right, here's the problem here. | Dirkgently | 6/12/08 6:11 p.m. |
Re: Nice post. | yakaman | 6/11/08 8:18 a.m. |
Keyes Wasn't a GM Form | SonofMacPhisto | 6/11/08 12:44 a.m. |
Re: Keyes Wasn't a GM Form | elpolloguapo | 6/11/08 9:59 a.m. |
Did GM survive the Array? | Capt Spanish | 6/13/08 1:37 a.m. |
I agree whole-heartedly | yakaman | 6/13/08 12:23 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | DHalo | 6/13/08 2:52 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 3:32 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | DHalo | 6/13/08 4:03 p.m. |
It absolutely kills Flood, and Gravemind. | yakaman | 6/13/08 4:33 p.m. |
Well said *NM* | scarab | 6/13/08 4:39 p.m. |
Re: It absolutely kills Flood, and Gravemind. | DHalo | 6/13/08 4:50 p.m. |
Halo: Story Evolved | scarab | 6/13/08 5:44 p.m. |
Re: Halo: Story Evolved | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 6:14 p.m. |
No, I misremembered. *NM* | scarab | 6/14/08 12:35 a.m. |
Re: It absolutely kills Flood, and Gravemind. | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 6:06 p.m. |
Re: I agree whole-heartedly | Stephen L. (SoundEffect) | 6/13/08 8:30 p.m. |
Heh. It doesn't get more direct than that. *NM* | yakaman | 6/14/08 7:31 a.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | Empty Set | 6/13/08 6:30 p.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | DHalo | 6/13/08 6:55 p.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | Dirkgently | 6/13/08 7:01 p.m. |
Re: Did GM survive the Array? | Capt Spanish | 6/13/08 7:21 p.m. |
My opinion's out there on this | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 10:52 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Peptuck | 6/10/08 12:03 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | yakaman | 6/10/08 12:52 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 2:05 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 8:27 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 8:33 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Cthulhu117 | 6/10/08 8:51 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | elpolloguapo | 6/10/08 9:00 p.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Free Weights | 6/10/08 11:04 p.m. |
Halo effect uses Flood telepathy ;-) | scarab | 6/11/08 1:13 a.m. |
Re: Halo effect uses Flood telepathy ;-) | free weights | 6/11/08 8:00 a.m. |
Re: Halo Effect absolutely kills Flood | Bry | 6/10/08 6:16 p.m. |
Is that like being only slightly pregnant? *NM* | scarab | 6/11/08 1:16 a.m. |
Ha | Bry | 6/11/08 3:56 a.m. |
Re: Is that like being only slightly pregnant? | elessar787 | 6/12/08 12:05 a.m. |
All together now: EEEWWWWWWWW *NM* | General Vagueness | 6/12/08 7:54 a.m. |
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