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Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.
Posted By: PeptuckDate: 5/3/08 9:31 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war. (Honestly)


: That's just my point. The Forerunners have demonstrated they are able to
: build enormous armies of sentinels. If they routed enough resources to
: production of sentinels they could've outnumbered the Flood.

The Forerunner demonstratd the ability to build enormous armies of Sentinels over a hundred thousand year period when their resources weren't also being strapped in massive wartime effort that was costing them just as much to match and they weren't constructing planet-sized superweapons at the same time.

For all we know, the Forerunner were trying to construct enough sentinels to counter the Flood, but the Flood were spreading too quickly to contain. In fact, that's exactly what is indicated by the logs in the Terminals.

: ALL worlds were Forerunner, or at least under their jurisdiction,

Proof?

: and what do
: you mean, "Overrun with billions of heavily-armed combat in massive
: orbital assaults."?

Exactly what the Terminals say.

Observed extensive ground action on [LP 656-38 e]. 9,045 survivors barricaded within central government building. Structure's defenses inadequate to withstand extended siege by enemy ground forces (1,572,034,315+). Estimate position overrun in [173 hours].

846 smaller groups in less defensible structures; global distribution corresponding to [probability model zeta]. Estimated local position overrun in [9 hours] (average).

Observed local naval forces engage enemy irregular naval group near [DM-3-1123]. Enemy group consisted of 149 commercial shipping vessels, passenger ferries, and private recreational vehicles from neighboring system. Enemy losses were total. No damage was sustained by local naval vessels.

However, it was immediately apparent that the enemy group sought only to enter [DM-3-1123 b's] atmosphere and make landfall. In this they were partially successful.

Observed extensive ground action on [DM-3-1123 b]. Enemy forces lacked basic cohesion but quickly gained numerical superiority. [32 hours] after enemy landfall 83% of local naval forces advocated total [destruction of the biosphere] following the evacuation of unmolested population centers. Enemy losses were total.

Th Flood don't send individual infection forms to a planet, they launch orbital assaults with enormous numbers of transports that overrun the civilian opulation centers and create massive waves of warrior forms from the local population.

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The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 6:25 p.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.reprobate 5/3/08 6:33 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 6:37 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SgtSatin 5/3/08 6:42 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Jordan117 5/3/08 6:56 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:06 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:11 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:18 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:31 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:39 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:46 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:00 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:07 p.m.
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                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:23 p.m.
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                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:30 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:32 p.m.
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                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:44 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:52 p.m.
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                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:02 p.m.
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                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:21 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:25 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:29 p.m.
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                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:41 p.m.
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                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 7:13 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:17 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Miguel Chavez 5/3/08 7:55 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:59 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:08 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:12 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:18 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:23 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:14 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:22 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:32 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:41 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:47 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:03 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:10 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:20 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:23 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:27 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:30 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         You can't prove a universal negative...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:31 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: You can't prove a universal negative...Honestly 5/3/08 10:34 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 10:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:38 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Another thing to consider...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:39 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: Another thing to consider...Honestly 5/3/08 10:40 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: Another thing to consider...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:41 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: Another thing to consider...Honestly 5/3/08 10:53 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:34 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:12 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:20 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:27 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:50 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:56 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:00 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:04 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:06 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Leviathan 5/3/08 11:30 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:02 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:29 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:34 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:37 p.m.
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                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:44 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 11:47 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:58 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 3:24 a.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 2:42 a.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 8:11 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:18 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 8:37 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:40 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 9:56 p.m.
                                                           Technically speaking...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:00 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Technically speaking...SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 10:04 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Technically speaking...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:06 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:05 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:08 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SPARTAN-034 5/3/08 10:08 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:12 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:21 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:35 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:44 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:53 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:09 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:17 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:28 p.m.
                                                                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:54 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:01 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:22 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:30 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Cthulhu117 5/4/08 12:03 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 1:41 a.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.scarab 5/3/08 7:03 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 7:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 7:47 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:06 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:12 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:21 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.SgtSatin 5/3/08 8:59 p.m.
     Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...GatchamanUK 5/3/08 8:21 p.m.
           Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...Honestly 5/3/08 8:21 p.m.
                 Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:16 p.m.
                       Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...Honestly 5/3/08 10:39 p.m.
                             Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:41 p.m.
                                   Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...Honestly 5/3/08 10:49 p.m.
                                         Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:53 p.m.
                                               Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:08 p.m.
                                                     Re: Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:12 p.m.
                                                           Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:14 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:15 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:22 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Ah but you see...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 11:24 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:47 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Ah but you see...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:26 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/3/08 11:50 p.m.
                                                     Re: Ah but you see...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:14 p.m.
                                                           Re: Ah but you see...Honestly 5/4/08 12:01 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Ah but you see...Miguel Chavez 5/4/08 12:06 a.m.
                       Re: Oh wait, I've found the simple answer...GatchamanUK 5/4/08 6:32 a.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 8:39 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 8:44 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Cthulhu117 5/4/08 12:07 p.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:07 p.m.
           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:13 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:24 p.m.
                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:31 p.m.
                             Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 9:39 p.m.
                                   Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 9:55 p.m.
                                         Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:00 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 10:02 p.m.
                                               Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 10:46 p.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 10:53 p.m.
                                                           Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/3/08 11:12 p.m.
                                                                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 11:23 p.m.
                                                                       Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Honestly 5/4/08 12:09 a.m.
                                                     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Peptuck 5/3/08 11:11 p.m.
                 Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 10:11 p.m.
     Also, the flood could have handily won...elpolloguapo 5/3/08 10:05 p.m.
           Re: Also, the flood could have handily won...Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/3/08 10:14 p.m.
           Re: Also, the flood could have handily won...Honestly 5/3/08 11:52 p.m.
                 I think this thread is supposed to be dead, but...SPARTAN-034 5/4/08 11:16 a.m.
     Hey look at that...stan 5/3/08 10:38 p.m.
     Re: The Forerunners shouldn't have lost the war.bedlam 5/4/08 1:33 a.m.
     Means vs. WillSonofMacPhisto 5/18/08 12:56 a.m.
           *nm* Is Forerunner ability the WRONG question? *NM*SonofMacPhisto 5/18/08 12:58 a.m.
           Re: Means vs. WillJillybean 5/18/08 6:57 a.m.
                 Re: Means vs. WillSonofMacPhisto 5/19/08 5:54 p.m.
                 Re: Means vs. WillSonofMacPhisto 5/19/08 6:51 p.m.
                       Re: Means vs. WillRed X 117 5/21/08 10:01 p.m.
                             Re: Means vs. Willelpolloguapo 5/21/08 10:03 p.m.
                                   Re: Means vs. WillRed X 117 5/21/08 10:53 p.m.
                                         Re: Means vs. WillFree Weights 5/21/08 11:24 p.m.
                                               Chief's Dead in 'Heaven?' Well... sorta!SonofMacPhisto 5/21/08 11:42 p.m.
                                                     Master Chief: The Last CrusadeFree Weights 5/22/08 6:50 p.m.
                                                           Re: Master Chief: The Last CrusadeSonofMacPhisto 5/22/08 7:06 p.m.
                                         Re: Means vs. Willelpolloguapo 5/22/08 6:13 a.m.



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