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Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!
Posted By: xenøsDate: 3/20/08 6:00 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! (RiveR)


: Boarding Action
: ---
: Boarding Action was a sniper map that could certainly be made to work in Halo
: 3. Bungie would doubtlessly place Man-cannons on the map instead of
: teleporters to make the map more of a "Halo 3" map in their
: minds, but custom gamers would Forge teleporters back on immediately and
: everyone would be happy.

: Boarding Action was played as a sniper map, but is flexible enough to work in
: an environment where the primary weapon is a Battle Rifle or Assault
: Rifle, especially once the ships were moved closer in order to restore
: ship-to-ship grenade throws. While nobody would be shooting successfully
: from ship to ship with an Assault Rifle, so long as it is relatively easy
: to get from ship to ship quietly and jump quickly between levels, the map
: has promise. Levels would have to overhang in such a fashion as to make
: simply dropping from the 5th level to the first just anywhere impossible
: though.

: _________________

Really nice write-up, and I mostly agree with it all! Your friend obviously put a lot of thought into that. I will comment on the Boarding Action part since it's my favourite of the original Halo maps that haven't been remade yet.

I think one of the main reasons for Bungie using man-cannons instead of teleporters is because teleporters get camped by, well, campers! But I'd vote to keep the teleporters in a Halo 3 remake. Because the Boarding Action ships face each other, you or your teammates can see (and shoot at!) whoever is on the other side before you go through, which makes campers much less of a problem!
And that screenshot inside the Avalanche base shows that Bungie aren't completely against using teleporters in their maps these days.

I accept the thing about ladders not working too well, though. I think they'd be replaced with air-lifts and/or straight or spiral ramps, which is fine. (And the fact that ladders will probably go is even more reason to keep the teleporters; else we'd lose too much, and it wouldn't even be a Boarding Action map anymore!)

Oh and also, if Wizard/Warlock were remade again, I sure hope Bungie add a bit more colour or some other interesting features to them! Small and four-way symmetrical is boring enough as it is(!) Desolation seemed to be going in the right direction in that area.

Anyway, as I said before, nice write-up. I hope it doesn't just get lost amongst all the other posts.


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Sidewinder's back, baby!Gravemind 3/19/08 1:01 a.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Omega 3/19/08 1:04 a.m.
           Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Gravemind 3/19/08 1:18 a.m.
           Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Louis Wu 3/19/08 8:46 a.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Omega 3/19/08 10:37 a.m.
                       Whoa. That was close. *NM*Gravemind 3/19/08 1:23 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! *NM*RiveR 3/19/08 11:41 p.m.
                       Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!RiveR 3/19/08 11:54 p.m.
                             Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!xenøs 3/20/08 6:00 a.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Gravemind 3/19/08 1:05 a.m.
     So pretty... *NM*Eiii 3/19/08 1:33 a.m.
     Do the Mancannons shoot you OVER the central wall?Leviathan 3/19/08 1:40 a.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!gunluva 3/19/08 1:44 a.m.
           Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!InnerRayg 3/19/08 1:57 a.m.
           Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Ragashingo 3/19/08 2:07 a.m.
           Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Zerowind117 3/19/08 2:45 a.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!ACEfanatic02 3/19/08 3:11 a.m.
                       Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Avateur 3/19/08 3:29 a.m.
                             Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!FyreWulff 3/19/08 3:58 a.m.
                       Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!DiscipleN2k 3/19/08 1:03 p.m.
                             Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Louis Wu 3/19/08 1:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!DiscipleN2k 3/19/08 2:59 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Ragashingo 3/19/08 8:40 a.m.
           Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!sketchfactor 3/19/08 2:11 p.m.
                 Won't physics be an issue??Boxer 3/19/08 3:01 p.m.
                 Tombstone (R.I.P.)Stuntmutt 3/19/08 3:01 p.m.
                       Re: Tombstone (R.I.P.)BolognaFire 3/19/08 3:12 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Ragashingo 3/19/08 3:07 p.m.
                       Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Urban Reflex 3/19/08 3:59 p.m.
                 Wow, nobody has replied to this yet?SinisterSamurai 3/19/08 3:14 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Dustbunny27 3/19/08 3:16 p.m.
                 Re: Do it Sketch!Devin Olsen 3/19/08 3:32 p.m.
                 I'm tornAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/19/08 3:35 p.m.
                       Ahem. "Classic Sack" maybe? *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/19/08 3:37 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!elessar787 3/19/08 3:37 p.m.
                       Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!sketchfactor 3/19/08 3:52 p.m.
                             Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Urban Reflex 3/19/08 4:04 p.m.
                             Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Bootsman 3/19/08 6:55 p.m.
                             Better/Slower > Faster/CrappierToastyKen 3/20/08 6:56 a.m.
                             Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!calmkiller 3/20/08 10:08 a.m.
                             Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!NOKYARD 3/20/08 11:12 a.m.
                                   I would settle for some extra large cracked decal *NM*SinisterSamurai 3/20/08 11:24 a.m.
                                         + audio of the ice cracking & popping *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/20/08 12:32 p.m.
                                               True *NM*SinisterSamurai 3/20/08 12:46 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Nevan 3/19/08 3:46 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Urban Reflex 3/19/08 3:51 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Slothboy 3/19/08 3:52 p.m.
                 Verticality!sorahn 3/19/08 4:03 p.m.
                       Re: Verticality!Urban Reflex 3/19/08 4:11 p.m.
                             Re: Verticality! === Construct *NM*Magni Harvald 3/19/08 5:01 p.m.
                                   ramps or raised platforms =/= grav lifts :( *NM*BolognaFire 3/19/08 5:08 p.m.
                                         Re: ramps or raised platforms =/= grav lifts :(Ducain 3/19/08 5:21 p.m.
                       Re: Verticality! === PRISONERmakaveli0360 3/19/08 4:19 p.m.
                             Re: Verticality! === Boarding Actionbluerunner 3/19/08 4:29 p.m.
                                   Re: Verticality! === Boarding Actionsketchfactor 3/19/08 5:37 p.m.
                                         Re: Verticality! === Boarding ActionSinisterSamurai 3/19/08 7:09 p.m.
                                               NOW HERES A MAN THAT TALKS SENSE /\nomis78 3/19/08 9:40 p.m.
                       Sor, there is Isolation. That map confuses.Mr. Kint 3/21/08 3:25 p.m.
                       Doesn't Construct fit the bill? *NM*pete_the_duck 3/21/08 4:12 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Cody Miller 3/19/08 4:03 p.m.
                 Tombstone=please god nomakaveli0360 3/19/08 4:18 p.m.
                       Re: Tombstone=please god nowafermouse 3/19/08 5:26 p.m.
                             Re: Tombstone=please god noDuncan 3/19/08 6:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Tombstone=please god noMagni Harvald 3/19/08 6:22 p.m.
                 Halo 2 Map pack + questionsorahn 3/19/08 4:31 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!xMixMasterx 3/19/08 4:43 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Psychophan7 3/19/08 4:44 p.m.
                       Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Grimlock 3/19/08 7:12 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Don 3/19/08 4:46 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!QuickTactical 3/19/08 5:01 p.m.
                 My ideal scenariowafermouse 3/19/08 5:03 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!jazo 3/19/08 5:20 p.m.
                 Please! My top 7.Duncan 3/19/08 6:08 p.m.
                       Re: Please! My top 7.Magni Harvald 3/19/08 6:20 p.m.
                 Here's my thoughts sketch.VVM 3/19/08 7:24 p.m.
                       Good points, allJordan117 3/20/08 5:03 a.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Black Six 3/19/08 9:33 p.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Avateur 3/19/08 10:20 p.m.
                 Response to the questionInnerRayg 3/20/08 3:13 a.m.
                 Thanks Bungie! My response *long*Awe Venger 3/20/08 4:36 a.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!xenøs 3/20/08 7:30 a.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!discopete019 3/20/08 9:23 a.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!serpx 3/20/08 10:54 a.m.
                 Enough about Sidewinder. Where's Prisoner?!Boxer 3/20/08 11:01 a.m.
                       With Halo 2 & 3's fall physics, Prisoner would be-SinisterSamurai 3/20/08 11:28 a.m.
                 Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!FyreWulff 3/21/08 5:50 p.m.
                 Another opinion on map pricing and packagingFyreWulff 3/21/08 5:58 p.m.
                       Re: Another opinion on map pricing and packagingelpolloguapo 3/21/08 7:39 p.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Avateur 3/19/08 1:51 a.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!vlad3163 3/19/08 1:58 a.m.
     Lars Bakken was WRONGJordan117 3/19/08 2:04 a.m.
           Re: Lars Bakken was WRONGXmoosev3 3/19/08 4:06 a.m.
                 Re: Lars Bakken was WRONGFyreWulff 3/19/08 4:27 a.m.
                       Re: Lars Bakken was WRONGBolognaFire 3/19/08 5:57 a.m.
                             Re: Lars Bakken was WRONGXmoosev3 3/19/08 8:25 a.m.
                                   OMG thead is shaped like Sidewinder *NM*Delicious Pie 3/19/08 1:13 p.m.
           Re: Lars Bakken was WRONGsketchfactor 3/19/08 2:13 p.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!FyreWulff 3/19/08 2:24 a.m.
     Anyone else spot the teleporter in the base?ACEfanatic02 3/19/08 2:26 a.m.
           Time to bust out the jackets.VVM 3/19/08 2:36 a.m.
     One Word: Teleporters. WOOT WOOT!!! *NM*Zerowind117 3/19/08 2:38 a.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!343winks. 3/19/08 2:45 a.m.
     thats a whole lotta man cannonnomis78 3/19/08 7:58 a.m.
           Re: thats a whole lotta man cannonOmega 3/19/08 8:33 a.m.
     ...That's it?Psychophan7 3/19/08 9:26 a.m.
           You know...Simpsons Rule 3/19/08 9:42 a.m.
                 :argh:Hawaiian Pig 3/19/08 11:28 a.m.
           Re: ...That's it?Louis Wu 3/19/08 9:43 a.m.
                 Re: ...That's it?Psychophan7 3/19/08 10:04 a.m.
                       Re: ...That's it?Miguel Chavez 3/19/08 11:18 a.m.
           Re: ...That's it?sketchfactor 3/19/08 2:20 p.m.
                 Are we going to see rocket cliff ?SPARTAN 294 3/19/08 3:13 p.m.
                       Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ?sketchfactor 3/19/08 3:56 p.m.
                             Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ?Moose Lord 3/19/08 4:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ?DiscipleN2k 3/19/08 4:20 p.m.
                                         Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ?sketchfactor 3/19/08 4:22 p.m.
                                               Dream come true for me!Burr 3/19/08 5:18 p.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!Cody Miller 3/19/08 10:39 a.m.
     Please keep the ice patches!Elite Spartan II 3/19/08 5:41 p.m.
           Re: Or Rocket Race *NM*SinisterSamurai 3/19/08 7:14 p.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!AnEternalEnigma 3/19/08 5:54 p.m.
     Re: Sidewinder's back, baby!VRaptorX 3/20/08 9:12 a.m.



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