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Posted By: VVM | Date: 3/19/08 7:24 p.m. |
In Response To: Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! (sketchfactor) : Well for what it's worth... Avalanche is MUCH more similar to the original : Sidewinder than Guardian-Lockout or Valhalla-Gulch. Neither of those two : were actually intended to be true successors to earlier maps though we : referred them as "spiritual" successors just in their general : style of play. : Avalanche is a true re-imagining of Sidewinder but with a few changes made to
: I am guessing that as far as "straight ports" are concerned, it's
: It does raise the question though.. how would people feel if some "quick
: So it really comes down to what would people want more? some quick and dirty
I think the idea of just throwing old map into Halo 3 without any graphical overhaul or without addressing the problems the maps had is just a terrible idea. And if you guys started doing that pretty soon people will end up saying: "you know what Halo 3 is lame, Bungie just keeps porting old maps. If I want to play a Halo 2 map ill just load up Halo 2" ( Halo:CE is an exception to this due to the fact that A: nobody really plays it anymore on XBC and B: it wasn't a live enabled game) I like what you guys are doing with Avalanche, I say keep going down that path. Keep making new maps while throwing in fan favorites remade for Halo 3's benefit. Continue to build on total forge-able maps like Foundry. However, I will say this. If the future lineup of maps continue to fail then the obvious problem is with the multiplayer team. If every map continues to displease fans then I would say it's time to let the current team go and either A: rebuild the old team behind Halo and Halo 2's maps. or B: hire a better team. Now I know that sounds a little extreme but if maps keep letting down users then the fault is with the team working on the maps. Personally, I don't have a problem with about 80% of the maps on Halo 3. High Ground, Snowbound, Last Resort, Valhalla ,Standoff, Foundry, Guardian, The Pit, Rats Nest, are all great maps. Narrows is good but in my personal opinion it could of been bigger, with a proper base. Overall, I think fans are too attached to the past, it's time to shape the future of Halo 3 with its own unique maps, like Halo and Halo 2 did before it.
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Sidewinder's back, baby! | Gravemind | 3/19/08 1:01 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Omega | 3/19/08 1:04 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Gravemind | 3/19/08 1:18 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Louis Wu | 3/19/08 8:46 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Omega | 3/19/08 10:37 a.m. |
Whoa. That was close. *NM* | Gravemind | 3/19/08 1:23 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! *NM* | RiveR | 3/19/08 11:41 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | RiveR | 3/19/08 11:54 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | xenøs | 3/20/08 6:00 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Gravemind | 3/19/08 1:05 a.m. |
So pretty... *NM* | Eiii | 3/19/08 1:33 a.m. |
Do the Mancannons shoot you OVER the central wall? | Leviathan | 3/19/08 1:40 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | gunluva | 3/19/08 1:44 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | InnerRayg | 3/19/08 1:57 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Ragashingo | 3/19/08 2:07 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Zerowind117 | 3/19/08 2:45 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | ACEfanatic02 | 3/19/08 3:11 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Avateur | 3/19/08 3:29 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | FyreWulff | 3/19/08 3:58 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | DiscipleN2k | 3/19/08 1:03 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Louis Wu | 3/19/08 1:17 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | DiscipleN2k | 3/19/08 2:59 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Ragashingo | 3/19/08 8:40 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | sketchfactor | 3/19/08 2:11 p.m. |
Won't physics be an issue?? | Boxer | 3/19/08 3:01 p.m. |
Tombstone (R.I.P.) | Stuntmutt | 3/19/08 3:01 p.m. |
Re: Tombstone (R.I.P.) | BolognaFire | 3/19/08 3:12 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Ragashingo | 3/19/08 3:07 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Urban Reflex | 3/19/08 3:59 p.m. |
Wow, nobody has replied to this yet? | SinisterSamurai | 3/19/08 3:14 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Dustbunny27 | 3/19/08 3:16 p.m. |
Re: Do it Sketch! | Devin Olsen | 3/19/08 3:32 p.m. |
I'm torn | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 3/19/08 3:35 p.m. |
Ahem. "Classic Sack" maybe? *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 3/19/08 3:37 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | elessar787 | 3/19/08 3:37 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | sketchfactor | 3/19/08 3:52 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Urban Reflex | 3/19/08 4:04 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Bootsman | 3/19/08 6:55 p.m. |
Better/Slower > Faster/Crappier | ToastyKen | 3/20/08 6:56 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | calmkiller | 3/20/08 10:08 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | NOKYARD | 3/20/08 11:12 a.m. |
I would settle for some extra large cracked decal *NM* | SinisterSamurai | 3/20/08 11:24 a.m. |
+ audio of the ice cracking & popping *NM* | Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) | 3/20/08 12:32 p.m. |
True *NM* | SinisterSamurai | 3/20/08 12:46 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Nevan | 3/19/08 3:46 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Urban Reflex | 3/19/08 3:51 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Slothboy | 3/19/08 3:52 p.m. |
Verticality! | sorahn | 3/19/08 4:03 p.m. |
Re: Verticality! | Urban Reflex | 3/19/08 4:11 p.m. |
Re: Verticality! === Construct *NM* | Magni Harvald | 3/19/08 5:01 p.m. |
ramps or raised platforms =/= grav lifts :( *NM* | BolognaFire | 3/19/08 5:08 p.m. |
Re: ramps or raised platforms =/= grav lifts :( | Ducain | 3/19/08 5:21 p.m. |
Re: Verticality! === PRISONER | makaveli0360 | 3/19/08 4:19 p.m. |
Re: Verticality! === Boarding Action | bluerunner | 3/19/08 4:29 p.m. |
Re: Verticality! === Boarding Action | sketchfactor | 3/19/08 5:37 p.m. |
Re: Verticality! === Boarding Action | SinisterSamurai | 3/19/08 7:09 p.m. |
NOW HERES A MAN THAT TALKS SENSE /\ | nomis78 | 3/19/08 9:40 p.m. |
Sor, there is Isolation. That map confuses. | Mr. Kint | 3/21/08 3:25 p.m. |
Doesn't Construct fit the bill? *NM* | pete_the_duck | 3/21/08 4:12 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Cody Miller | 3/19/08 4:03 p.m. |
Tombstone=please god no | makaveli0360 | 3/19/08 4:18 p.m. |
Re: Tombstone=please god no | wafermouse | 3/19/08 5:26 p.m. |
Re: Tombstone=please god no | Duncan | 3/19/08 6:17 p.m. |
Re: Tombstone=please god no | Magni Harvald | 3/19/08 6:22 p.m. |
Halo 2 Map pack + question | sorahn | 3/19/08 4:31 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | xMixMasterx | 3/19/08 4:43 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Psychophan7 | 3/19/08 4:44 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Grimlock | 3/19/08 7:12 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Don | 3/19/08 4:46 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | QuickTactical | 3/19/08 5:01 p.m. |
My ideal scenario | wafermouse | 3/19/08 5:03 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | jazo | 3/19/08 5:20 p.m. |
Please! My top 7. | Duncan | 3/19/08 6:08 p.m. |
Re: Please! My top 7. | Magni Harvald | 3/19/08 6:20 p.m. |
Here's my thoughts sketch. | VVM | 3/19/08 7:24 p.m. |
Good points, all | Jordan117 | 3/20/08 5:03 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Black Six | 3/19/08 9:33 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Avateur | 3/19/08 10:20 p.m. |
Response to the question | InnerRayg | 3/20/08 3:13 a.m. |
Thanks Bungie! My response *long* | Awe Venger | 3/20/08 4:36 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | xenøs | 3/20/08 7:30 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | discopete019 | 3/20/08 9:23 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | serpx | 3/20/08 10:54 a.m. |
Enough about Sidewinder. Where's Prisoner?! | Boxer | 3/20/08 11:01 a.m. |
With Halo 2 & 3's fall physics, Prisoner would be- | SinisterSamurai | 3/20/08 11:28 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | FyreWulff | 3/21/08 5:50 p.m. |
Another opinion on map pricing and packaging | FyreWulff | 3/21/08 5:58 p.m. |
Re: Another opinion on map pricing and packaging | elpolloguapo | 3/21/08 7:39 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Avateur | 3/19/08 1:51 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | vlad3163 | 3/19/08 1:58 a.m. |
Lars Bakken was WRONG | Jordan117 | 3/19/08 2:04 a.m. |
Re: Lars Bakken was WRONG | Xmoosev3 | 3/19/08 4:06 a.m. |
Re: Lars Bakken was WRONG | FyreWulff | 3/19/08 4:27 a.m. |
Re: Lars Bakken was WRONG | BolognaFire | 3/19/08 5:57 a.m. |
Re: Lars Bakken was WRONG | Xmoosev3 | 3/19/08 8:25 a.m. |
OMG thead is shaped like Sidewinder *NM* | Delicious Pie | 3/19/08 1:13 p.m. |
Re: Lars Bakken was WRONG | sketchfactor | 3/19/08 2:13 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | FyreWulff | 3/19/08 2:24 a.m. |
Anyone else spot the teleporter in the base? | ACEfanatic02 | 3/19/08 2:26 a.m. |
Time to bust out the jackets. | VVM | 3/19/08 2:36 a.m. |
One Word: Teleporters. WOOT WOOT!!! *NM* | Zerowind117 | 3/19/08 2:38 a.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | 343winks. | 3/19/08 2:45 a.m. |
thats a whole lotta man cannon | nomis78 | 3/19/08 7:58 a.m. |
Re: thats a whole lotta man cannon | Omega | 3/19/08 8:33 a.m. |
...That's it? | Psychophan7 | 3/19/08 9:26 a.m. |
You know... | Simpsons Rule | 3/19/08 9:42 a.m. |
:argh: | Hawaiian Pig | 3/19/08 11:28 a.m. |
Re: ...That's it? | Louis Wu | 3/19/08 9:43 a.m. |
Re: ...That's it? | Psychophan7 | 3/19/08 10:04 a.m. |
Re: ...That's it? | Miguel Chavez | 3/19/08 11:18 a.m. |
Re: ...That's it? | sketchfactor | 3/19/08 2:20 p.m. |
Are we going to see rocket cliff ? | SPARTAN 294 | 3/19/08 3:13 p.m. |
Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ? | sketchfactor | 3/19/08 3:56 p.m. |
Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ? | Moose Lord | 3/19/08 4:08 p.m. |
Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ? | DiscipleN2k | 3/19/08 4:20 p.m. |
Re: Are we going to see rocket cliff ? | sketchfactor | 3/19/08 4:22 p.m. |
Dream come true for me! | Burr | 3/19/08 5:18 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | Cody Miller | 3/19/08 10:39 a.m. |
Please keep the ice patches! | Elite Spartan II | 3/19/08 5:41 p.m. |
Re: Or Rocket Race *NM* | SinisterSamurai | 3/19/08 7:14 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | AnEternalEnigma | 3/19/08 5:54 p.m. |
Re: Sidewinder's back, baby! | VRaptorX | 3/20/08 9:12 a.m. |
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