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Re: Hah.
Posted By: PeptuckDate: 11/5/07 8:11 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Hah. (58)


: The point I'm making is that, if the humans have access to the resources of
: eight hundred worlds, then the Covenant does NOT have superior numbers.
: We've seen enough to know that if the Covenant had enough to make eight
: hundred colonized worlds seem insignificant that the war would have been
: over in months.

Evidence.

Just because they would have the resources, it doesn't ecessarily mean they threw everything they had into hunting down the humans, and the biggest problem the Covenant had with defeating humanity was not numbers but locating a few planets in a galaxy of a hundred billion stars.

: I already said that I know the difference between a fleet and the entire
: navy, but the fleet is representative of the navy - if they guard their
: most valuable item with five hundred ships, then five hundred ships is a
: vast number, relatively speaking.

A big number of ships for one particular location doesn't necessarily translate into proportional ship numbers. We have canonical estimates of the Covenant pretty much throwing away ship fleets of the hundreds, and a Prophet who completely dismisses the destruction of a fleet over three times the size of anything the UNSC could hope to muster.

: Yeah, and they only committed three hundred ships (and lost most of them)
: when they assaulted the last human stronghold - do you really believe that
: if they had access to thousands of vessels that they would have chanced it
: with the three hundred?

IIRC, these are the guys who utterly and completely crush UNSC fleets when they are outnumbered three to one. Throwing a force that outnumbers the UNSC defenders is overkill. Not to mention that outnumbering the enemy three to one - which is how the Covenant outnumbered the UNSC forces at Reach - is normal for offensive operations.

That, and it costs less in terms of logistics and resources to throw a smaller fleet at a target than to utterly swamp it. That's why the US military threw less than a fifth of its available military strength at Iraq in the second invasion; fielding ships and troops and vehicles costs money and resources, and the fewer ships, troops, and vehicles you use, the better.


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Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/4/07 11:05 a.m.
     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 11:06 a.m.
           Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/4/07 2:00 p.m.
                 Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 3:04 p.m.
                       Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 3:07 p.m.
                             Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 3:22 p.m.
                                   Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestCthulhu117 11/4/07 3:46 p.m.
                                         Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestVVM 11/4/07 4:08 p.m.
                                               Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvest58 11/4/07 5:36 p.m.
                                               Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestBry 11/4/07 11:59 p.m.
                                                     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestDeckard 11/5/07 12:36 a.m.
                                                           Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/5/07 5:33 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestDeckard 11/5/07 12:46 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: Harvestkr-1426 11/5/07 2:50 p.m.
                                                                       Dekard was a real assholeSinisterSamurai 11/6/07 1:35 a.m.
                                                                             Yes, but was he human?Narcogen 11/6/07 10:54 p.m.
                                   Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestLouis Wu 11/4/07 6:53 p.m.
     Hmm... that's really low...Walshicus 11/4/07 11:14 a.m.
           From the Halo timeline:Jordan117 11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: From the Halo timeline:Dundradal 11/4/07 1:00 p.m.
                       Thanks *NM*Jordan117 11/4/07 1:25 p.m.
                 Re: From the Halo timeline:kr-1426 11/4/07 2:04 p.m.
           Hah.58 11/4/07 11:30 a.m.
                 Re: Hah.BirDMaN 11/4/07 11:41 a.m.
                       Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 1:09 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Thanatos119 11/4/07 1:15 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Orpheus 11/4/07 2:43 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.gspawn 11/4/07 3:12 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:23 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 5:23 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 5:32 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 5:47 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 9:18 p.m.
                                               Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 9:27 p.m.
                                                     Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 10:15 p.m.
                                                     Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 11:04 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.Walshicus 11/4/07 2:08 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.VVM 11/4/07 3:08 p.m.
                       Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 3:11 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 3:33 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 5:10 p.m.
                                         That, I can believe. *NM*58 11/4/07 5:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.Orpheus 11/4/07 6:01 p.m.
                                               Re: Hah.kr-1426 11/4/07 6:18 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.dude2 11/4/07 9:08 p.m.
                                   Re: Hah.Omega 11/4/07 10:26 p.m.
                                         Um... not quiteWalshicus 11/6/07 1:26 p.m.
                                               Re: Um... not quiteOmega 11/6/07 4:38 p.m.
                 Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/4/07 7:40 p.m.
                       Re: Hah.58 11/4/07 8:37 p.m.
                             Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/5/07 1:01 a.m.
                                   Re: Hah.58 11/5/07 12:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Hah.Peptuck 11/5/07 8:11 p.m.
     I assumed it was semantics.Funkmon 11/4/07 4:55 p.m.
     Re: Number of Colonies and Contact: HarvestKorsriddare 11/5/07 9:47 p.m.
     800 FTWDevrous 11/12/07 3:18 p.m.
           Contact Harvest *Spoilers* Above *NM*Simpsons Rule 11/12/07 4:24 p.m.
           Re: 800 FTW *sp*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 11/12/07 7:07 p.m.
                 Re: 800 FTW *sp*Devrous 11/13/07 12:36 a.m.
           More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*Devrous 11/13/07 3:34 a.m.
                 Re: More! (+calculations) *Spoilers*kr-1426 11/13/07 2:31 p.m.



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